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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 5 12:47:48 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by R30A on Fri Dec 5 12:46:29 2014.

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Do you have a list of who here changes their name? I don't have one.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by jailhousedoc on Fri Dec 5 12:48:36 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Dec 2 17:00:14 2014.

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that location was very dangerous a few years ago- not sure how it is now. Once the sun goes down you do take a lot of chances on the street. With the transfer at Court Square , and a couple of other moves which one can take, a transfer at that location between those two stations is not likely to happen in my view.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Dec 5 12:48:52 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 5 12:47:48 2014.

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I don't have one.
That's because YOU'RE AN IDIOT! LOL!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Dec 5 12:49:13 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by R30A on Fri Dec 5 12:46:29 2014.

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And I don't even change my name in the context he is discussing.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by R30A on Fri Dec 5 12:50:03 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 5 12:47:48 2014.

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I for one have. American Pig and the former Newkirk Plaza David come to mind as others...

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 5 12:58:30 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Dec 5 12:49:13 2014.

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LYRE !!! You are the ONLY one here who do it!!! It isn't "the context he is discussing" it is what YOU keep doing!!!!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Railbus63 on Fri Dec 5 12:58:31 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 2 16:55:18 2014.

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The only riders who would benefit from this transfer would be those chnaging from the Astoria Line to the Queens Boulevard lines. Likely not worth the expense of building the connection, especially given the time and walking distance that would be required to get from one to the other.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Michael549 on Fri Dec 5 13:20:45 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Railbus63 on Fri Dec 5 12:58:31 2014.

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From a previous message:

"The only riders who would benefit from this transfer would be those chnaging from the Astoria Line to the Queens Boulevard lines."

A quick look at the Queens Bus Map shows that there are several bus routes that connect the various Astoria, Queens Blvd, and the #7 train line stations. It seems possible that timely travel between those train lines and neighborhoods could be accomplished by using the buses available.

Just a thought.
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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Dec 5 13:23:43 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 5 12:58:30 2014.

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LYRE !!!
WTF???

You are the ONLY one here who do it!!!
Are you speaking English?

It isn't "the context he is discussing" it is what YOU keep doing!!!!
The two are one and the same. It is not changing my name. Many people have told you this. You are STUPID.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 5 14:00:53 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by R30A on Fri Dec 5 12:50:03 2014.

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But that's not what Dan Lawrence is talking about.

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Re: How do you classify SIR?

Posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Dec 5 14:33:02 2014, in response to Re: How do you classify SIR?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 4 17:51:13 2014.

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Thanks. I didn't know that. So not only bus operators but SIR conductors carried those paper transfers too. I assume.

IIRC, the ferry was 50¢. collected Manhattan bound only at the time.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by randyo on Fri Dec 5 15:49:37 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by italianstallion on Thu Dec 4 23:05:53 2014.

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That sounds like an error on the part of Wiki since prior to the 1940 unification of the transit system, there were no transfer privileges among or between the 3 separate subway lines save for the stations on the Flushing and Astoria Lines N/O Qnsbro Plz where the IRT and BMT shared trackage. After the 1940 unification of the system, certain transfers were established to replace the elevated lines that were demolished at the same time and which I mentioned in my post on this topic.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by randyo on Fri Dec 5 16:09:06 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Michael549 on Fri Dec 5 13:20:45 2014.

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There would probably be little if any need for passengers to change fro the Astoria Line to the Qns Blvd Line since passengers from the Bway Subway have direct R service to Qns Blvd except during midnight hours and passengers coming south from Astoria can continue on to Lex Av to change for N/B R service.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Dec 5 16:18:49 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by randyo on Fri Dec 5 16:09:06 2014.

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That is considerable back-tracking to require travel to 59th St. to get back to eastern Queens. Also the R is a local whereas a transfer at QP would access the express.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by FtGreeneG on Fri Dec 5 16:30:44 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 3 10:48:09 2014.

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Don't think it's possible. Since passenger's don't swipe out there's real way to know what stations passengers departed from using the 63rd st transfer.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Gene B. on Fri Dec 5 16:45:56 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by italianstallion on Thu Dec 4 19:04:22 2014.

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I understand. My point was that, like Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza, you have an el and a subway which are not closely aligned and the free transfer passage was accomplished if the demand was deemed to be there.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Dec 5 17:07:59 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Gene B. on Fri Dec 5 16:45:56 2014.

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But at 161st, unlike QP, they are aligned - they are right on top of each other.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by randyo on Fri Dec 5 18:50:58 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by italianstallion on Fri Dec 5 16:18:49 2014.

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True, but considering how long a walk would be from QB Pl to Qns Pl, it probably would be inconsequential.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Dec 5 20:40:00 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Dec 3 19:40:46 2014.

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Sutphin Blvd E to 60/Lex worked fine yesterday morning.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 5 20:49:04 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Dec 5 20:40:00 2014.

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That would sort of agree with my theory that free entry at Lex/59 only doesn't work if you entered originally at a station that provided a direct trip.



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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by The Silence on Fri Dec 5 21:54:55 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Gene B. on Fri Dec 5 16:45:56 2014.

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they are aligned, the stations cross at a right angle. If we compare 161st to Queens, the IND station would be under the Deegan.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Dec 5 23:30:46 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Railbus63 on Fri Dec 5 12:58:31 2014.

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Right. And the #7 connects Queensboro Plaza with Roosevelt Ave. on the Queens Blvd. line.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 21 12:40:54 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Dec 5 12:48:52 2014.

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No!! That is your stupid post!!!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Dec 21 13:44:19 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 5 12:58:30 2014.

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LYRE !!!

Like this?



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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Dec 21 15:27:22 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Dec 5 12:48:52 2014.

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Thus spoke Tony Clifton, et al.!!!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 21:20:57 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Dec 21 15:27:22 2014.

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huh?

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 21:22:22 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by R30A on Fri Dec 5 12:50:03 2014.

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He's talking about people who supposedly change their names quite often. No one does that currently.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 21:22:50 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 21 12:40:54 2014.

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WADL. My post was not stupid. But yours is.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Dec 22 12:11:56 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 21 12:40:54 2014.

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WADL! Your post is stupid. For two reasons:

1. It contributes nothing informative or positive to this message board. All you did was look to pick a fight, which really seems to be just about the only thing you do on here.

2. You responded to Terrapin's post 16 DAYS after he posted it! Ever heard of "just letting it go?" No, of course not!

Seriously man, get a hobby. Other than picking fights with people on Subchat!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:38:35 2014, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Dec 22 12:11:56 2014.

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AWESOME POST!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 6 09:27:38 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 21:22:50 2014.

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NO, YOU are the total idiot!!!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 6 09:29:30 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Dec 22 12:11:56 2014.

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I AM NOT WADL!! STOP WITH IT!!!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 6 10:19:06 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 6 09:29:30 2015.

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Yes you are, DL.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 6 10:31:03 2015, in response to Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by nh153 on Tue Dec 2 16:42:07 2014.

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No.

Next question.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 6 12:16:45 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 6 09:27:38 2015.

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WADL. My post was not stupid. But yours is. And you are stupid.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 6 12:17:00 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 6 10:19:06 2015.

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iawtp

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jan 6 13:26:47 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 6 09:29:30 2015.

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You never learn, do you, Dan Lawrence?

And when are you going to start posting something informative or positive on this board, Dan Lawrence? Because you haven't in a very long time (if ever).

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 6 13:30:34 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jan 6 13:26:47 2015.

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EXCELLENT POST!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 6 13:34:01 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jan 6 13:26:47 2015.

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IIRC, Dan Lawrence actually used to at least try to contribute to the forum by answering questions. But he was often wrong. Not always wrong, I don't think, but often. So we would point out that he was wrong, even on topics related to trolleys, for which he was supposed to be an expert. Instead of admitting his mistakes and figuring out where he went wrong and vowing to improve, it seems he decided to just become a spewer of stupid irrelevant garbs (that in and of themselves are also wrong - he just can't win).

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jan 6 13:35:27 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 6 09:27:38 2015.

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WADL! Waiting two weeks to insult other Subchatters is wrong? If you had something informative to post about rail transit in or around Baltimore, then that would not be wrong. But you never do. And that's a real shame.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jan 6 13:39:17 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 6 13:34:01 2015.

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It has been a really long time since he did. So much for trying to get Dan Lawrence to do that again.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jan 6 13:48:39 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 6 13:30:34 2015.

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Thank you. What can I say, this is all that guy does now on this board (for at least the past couple of years). It's a shame because his hometown is rich in transit history and they've got the planned crosstown Red Line light rail train. Perhaps if DL reported on that periodically like Sand Box John does about WMATA's Silver Line, Dan would get more respect on here. But I think it's too late for him now.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jan 7 08:51:54 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jan 6 13:39:17 2015.

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yep

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 7 09:17:00 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 6 09:29:30 2015.

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You are WADL 4evar now.

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 7 09:27:23 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Dec 5 13:23:43 2014.

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He most likely didn't mean the lyre bird.



Will we ever see this thread title changed to "NH153, that is great news, Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza being combined"?

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed Jan 7 11:03:18 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 5 12:58:30 2014.

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LYRE !!!

Really, Dan? Really? LOL!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jan 7 12:27:10 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Dec 5 12:49:13 2014.

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"Ladies and gentlemen, now playing the lyre, Mr Tony Clifton!"

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jan 7 19:17:32 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 6 12:16:45 2015.

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Not as stupid as you are!!!!!!! I NEVER CHANGE MY NAME!!!!!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jan 7 19:26:50 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jan 6 13:35:27 2015.

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Don't you start with the WADL stuff. There are other things to do that are around and there are only one electric rail transit line that we have. Our last streetcar lines went bus in 1963!!!

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Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jan 7 19:29:53 2015, in response to Re: Will Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza Ever Be Combined?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 7 09:17:00 2015.

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I may be WADL, but you are Idiot one!!!!

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