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PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sat Aug 30 11:16:33 2014 PL42-AC's were rare on the AC Line until recently. In anticipation of the retirement of the Geeps, Transit is sending PL42-AC's to the AC Line so crews can get qualified on the equipment.4006 and 4002 with trains 4628 and 4631 met at SOUTH RACE (Utica Ave, Westmont, just south of the Cherry Hill station) Friday afternoon.     
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 11:35:28 2014, in response to PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by chuchubob on Sat Aug 30 11:16:33 2014. All the Geeps are going bye-bye?LIRR, you have a phone call to make. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat Aug 30 12:03:46 2014, in response to PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by chuchubob on Sat Aug 30 11:16:33 2014. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for these pictures.chud1. :).... |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Aug 30 13:21:38 2014, in response to PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by chuchubob on Sat Aug 30 11:16:33 2014. nice shots |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42ACs on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 30 14:17:16 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 11:35:28 2014. Eh? |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Aug 30 14:49:36 2014, in response to PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by chuchubob on Sat Aug 30 11:16:33 2014. I guess also with the ALP-45DP showing up on the RVL, some PL42ACs are freed up. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sat Aug 30 14:58:02 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 11:35:28 2014. Some of the Geeps are getting a bit old. 4108 and 4202, for example, were built in 1965; photos 23 July 2014 and 13 June 2014, respectively  4203 and 4215 were built in 1968; photographed 7/7/2014 and 16 March 2014, respectively.  
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Aug 30 15:03:54 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 11:35:28 2014. LIRR, you have a phone call to make.The money that you'd use to lease that stuff along with the Comets to make it work would be better used on fixing the track on the Greenport so the schedules don't suck ass. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42ACs on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Aug 30 16:39:42 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42ACs on Atlantic City Line, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 30 14:17:16 2014. "Observations" of purported crowding via twitter mean that the LIRR has to buy rolling stock that will be torn up or tear up the canopies at Jamaica. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Dm30ac on Sat Aug 30 21:49:50 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by chuchubob on Sat Aug 30 14:58:02 2014. If the LIRR was able to gain some of NJTs Geeps, does NJTs have any old coaches the LIRR could lease or buy? What is NJT planning on doing with the ACES coaches, could the LIRR get them? |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Aug 30 22:05:10 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Dm30ac on Sat Aug 30 21:49:50 2014. Yes, the entire Comet 3 fleet is in storage. Buying Geeps plus some Comet 3 seems like an ideal solution. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by jersey mike on Sun Aug 31 00:04:25 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by chuchubob on Sat Aug 30 14:58:02 2014. Some were rebuilt as passenger units in the mid 90s. The ex-CNJ GP40Ps are the most elderly. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 31 10:18:19 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Aug 30 15:03:54 2014. But the equipment isn't available to increase service. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 31 10:21:19 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Aug 30 22:05:10 2014. Said fleet is in sorry shape. They could borrow some Shoreliners from Metro North. If you use Geeps and shoreliners on the Greenport scoot and the Oyster Bay shuttle, you'd free up more standard equipment for the Montauk branch without making the Port Jefferson branch suffer. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Aug 31 10:36:52 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 31 10:21:19 2014. I doubt MN has any Shoreliners to spare, not to mention they lost a entire trainset of them in that Hudson line derailment for the time being. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 31 10:52:30 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Aug 31 10:36:52 2014. They supposedly have a surplus, AFAIK. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Aug 31 12:09:45 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Aug 30 14:49:36 2014. Unfortunately... :-( |
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Posted by Dm30ac on Sun Aug 31 13:20:27 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Aug 30 15:03:54 2014. Why spend money on tracks that see 10 trains a day, when the money can be spent to improve the reliability of 4 branches, including Greenport, with more equipment, especially when there is available equipment. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42ACs on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 31 13:33:51 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42ACs on Atlantic City Line, posted by WillD on Sat Aug 30 16:39:42 2014. One car platforms for 2 car train doesn't help matters |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 14:02:22 2014, in response to PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by chuchubob on Sat Aug 30 11:16:33 2014. very nice |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 31 14:31:53 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Dm30ac on Sun Aug 31 13:20:27 2014. Why spend money on tracks that see 10 trains a dayTo make them competitive with the roads that run parallel, maybe? Bit of history: The rails to Greenport used to be part of a very busy NYC-Boston route that included a ferry bridge to Stonington, CT. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 31 14:52:52 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Aug 31 12:09:45 2014. No single levels for you, eh????Why not try the ACL, good buddy??? Get adventurous??? :-) |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 31 15:24:55 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Dm30ac on Sun Aug 31 13:20:27 2014. LIRR has painted themselves into a corner with incompatible equipment that are also mechanical lemons that are hard to add to, and these are the results on the diesel lines. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 31 16:23:13 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 31 10:18:19 2014. They can run the equipment asssigend more intensely. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Aug 31 17:33:00 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 31 14:52:52 2014. I would LOVE to work the AC line. But it would take me 2 1/2 hours each way to get there. In GOOD traffic! Similar to working out of Port Jervis... |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Aug 31 17:35:59 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 31 14:52:52 2014. BTW, the reason I'm not happy about the ALP 45's being in Raritan is because I have to go into NYC each day... :-( |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 31 17:57:53 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Aug 31 17:35:59 2014. Bid for a run that doesn't go there. Half of the 10 the trainsets have Alstom diesels and never see NYC. |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 31 20:27:27 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Dm30ac on Sat Aug 30 21:49:50 2014. 7 of 8 ACES coaches have been or about to be converted to ordinary commuter coaches. One will remain as is to become an 8000-series car, use unknown.Most of the NJT Comet-3 fleet was flood-damaged in both Bay Head and Meadowlands. The rebuilding process would be severe enough to not grandfather the cab cars' structural status to be FRA compliant, which is why the COmet-2 cab cars were all stripped to coaches. NJT EMD's won't fit thru Jamaica canopies (dynamic brake blisters on the hood units). I wrote a comment to the MTA public hearings on LIRR capital plans saying in so many words that the diesel fleet situation is bad and unsustainable, they need to come out of denial, and should buy 20 Bombardier MLV cars doing whatever customizations necessary, after the MARC delivery completes. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Sep 1 15:29:29 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 31 17:57:53 2014. Of course I know that. I needed to start off "easy" after being out for a year after having spine surgery. So I went for a short tc job, which isn't available on the afternoon/night trains. But even so, rumor has it that they will be sending the "after the PM rush hour" night RVL trains to NYC in a couple of months, so it won't matter anyway. Maybe I'll go back to Gladstone on the rollover in a couple of months... |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 1 17:30:20 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Sep 1 15:29:29 2014. Post PM rush will definitely happen whenever the fall change is, but that is as far as the concept will go here. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Sep 2 05:43:31 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 1 17:30:20 2014. But even so, that means that 99% of the weekday signups in Raritan will most likely involve going into NY Penn at some point. Only a couple of the high seniority jobs (ones that work both AM rush and PM rush) will avoid NY. That's ironic because in Gladstone, only the high seniority jobs go into NY Penn, while everything else goes to Hoboken... |
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Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 2 06:36:37 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PL42-AC's on Atlantic City Line, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Sep 2 05:43:31 2014. Where do the AM crews on those Gladstone trains go once their trip to NYP is done? Those trains do not return to Gladstone. |
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