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Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars)

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 17:46:36 2014

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From July 2014 board meeting docs

Scope:
New R211 ‘B’ Division cars to replace 752 R46 cars
– Additional fleet growth cars (current forecast approx. 11% increase)

Description:
Next Generation design to address NYCT’s goals

Schedule:
1. Design Phase ongoing with support from consultant CH2M-Hill

2. Car Purchase Award proposed for the 2015 – 2019 Capital program



11% increase.... around 84 cars.

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Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars)

Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 25 18:09:50 2014, in response to Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 17:46:36 2014.

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Any info as to whether they will be 60 ft or 75 ft or is that still in the "design Phase?"

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Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars)

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:19:10 2014, in response to Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars), posted by randyo on Fri Jul 25 18:09:50 2014.

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It still is in Design Phase.

It may or may not revealed on Monday's board meeting 60 vs 75 ft issue. Recent RFP suggest: 752 car replacement = 752 new cars.

Otherwise contact the guy who is in charge...

Joseph Bromfield
Vice President and Chief Mechanical Officer
Department of Subways

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Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars)

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jul 26 06:36:26 2014, in response to Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:19:10 2014.

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I don't know why they don't go for 67 foot cars (length of the old BMT Standards). Then you could have longer cars in the Eastern Division and work to make all stations 670 feet to fit 10 67' cars (or nine 75' cars or 11 60' cars).

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Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars)

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 26 11:27:26 2014, in response to Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 17:46:36 2014.

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Source??

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Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars)

Posted by blue8irt on Sat Jul 26 17:04:36 2014, in response to Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars), posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jul 26 06:36:26 2014.

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If 67 foot long cars are built, then they can put a color wrap on them to make them look proper. Respect the heritage!!! lol

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Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars)

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Jul 28 14:20:27 2014, in response to Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars), posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jul 26 06:36:26 2014.

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Standard fleet = 60' and 75', no more oddball fleet length.

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@ the board meeting on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars)

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Jul 28 14:33:35 2014, in response to Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 17:46:36 2014.

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MTA predicts it will be awarded in 2016.

They did not talk about the length of the car. They pretty much say its a R-46 fleet replacement equal number of cars. 752 cars. (75 foot order, this time).

They mention a few items on the R-211 order:
1. Enhanced customer experience.
2. Improve communication on the train.
3. Using green technology.
4. Standardized parts (R-143/160/179)

There WILL BE a presentation on the R-211 car order on a later date (probably next year).

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Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars)

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jul 28 15:13:10 2014, in response to Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars), posted by blue8irt on Sat Jul 26 17:04:36 2014.

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or make them look like the BMT Zephyr.

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Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars)

Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jul 30 23:16:57 2014, in response to Re: Some update on R-211 car order (752 car replacement +11% additional cars), posted by randyo on Fri Jul 25 18:09:50 2014.

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Its going to be 75 foot order.

752 cars to replace = 752 new cars

11% additional cars = 84 cars. (Look at previous R211 post)

Then there's Staten Island Railway 64 cars that needs to replace.

It's a potential 900 car replacement. MTA is leaning towards 75 foot cars just to save money then buying a shorter 60 foot fleet.

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