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Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Jul 25 19:15:29 2014, in response to Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:53:34 2014. Great news! There shouldn't be any stations that are not available 24/7. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 19:21:11 2014, in response to Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:53:34 2014. I'm happy for the return of 24/7 service at Fulton and Broad. What changed their minds, I wonder? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 25 19:51:45 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 19:21:11 2014. My guess, is political correctness for Fulton Transfer boondoggle, i.e. they can spend billions to build it, yet to cheap to add a J train train set to serve it. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 21:04:27 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 25 19:51:45 2014. I'm guessing there will be no station agents at either stop. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 25 21:12:43 2014, in response to Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:53:34 2014. Ehhh, sounds like a waste. How many people ride the J to lower Manhattan on the weekends? I can't see that being a big destination, not like midtown or the east and west sides, where their cultural and commercial destinations. |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Fri Jul 25 21:24:51 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 25 21:12:43 2014. It's really a matter of providing the transfer at Fulton Street. that is the important reason why this is being done.I also wonder if they will be using the relay tracks south of Broad Street or if they will be using the crossover north of the station to turn trains. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 25 21:35:56 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 25 21:12:43 2014. It was a horrible idea to curtail it in the first place. Because of weekend GO's on the F @ Essex and the 4/5 at Brooklyn Bridge it was impossible to take the J to Fulton for the reroutes. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 21:36:41 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 19:21:11 2014. Greater justification for the massive expenditure on the FTC. That being said, increased ridership on both the J line can sorta justify the move. I believe the sticking point has been the necessity of manning the Broad St tower, wheras Chambers St can be remotely controlled from Essex master. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 21:37:36 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by italianstallion on Fri Jul 25 19:15:29 2014. If there's one station that can be closed on weekends, it's Broad St. |
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Posted by The Orion Kid on Fri Jul 25 21:37:42 2014, in response to Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:53:34 2014. Good news for my neighborhood. We're not the Monday to Friday 9 to 5 place we used to be and I'm happy the MTA is really starting to get that. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 25 21:39:43 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 21:37:36 2014. You can't turn the J at Fulton. Plus more people live in lower Manhattan today than when the J was originally cut back weekends. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 21:44:21 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 25 21:39:43 2014. I know that, which is why Broad St will be reopened. The area around Broad/Wall is still pretty dead on weekends. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 25 21:47:07 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 21:44:21 2014. Also it is within walking distance of Battery Park/SI Ferry. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 25 23:33:29 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Ray Jules on Fri Jul 25 21:24:51 2014. But how many people actually do that? Assuming the 4/5 are working properly (which admittedly can be dicey with GOs), it should provide decent enough service to get people to Fulton without too much waiting. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 25 23:36:34 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 25 21:39:43 2014. But that area already has lots of subway service, even on the weekends. People around there can take the 2/3 or the 4/5 when Broad is closed. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 25 23:50:22 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 25 23:36:34 2014. It's a total package. If there J goes to Fulton on S/S/H then it has to go to Broad anyway. |
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Posted by Stef on Sat Jul 26 00:59:57 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 21:04:27 2014. That's not the case. There's a staffed booth at Broad Street, and it would mean the Clerk's RDOs (days off) for that booth will change to reflect staffing needs over the weekend.-Stef |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jul 26 02:05:41 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 21:36:41 2014. Broad St is also controlled from Essex St. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:50:10 2014, in response to Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:53:34 2014. Excellent. Using chambers as a terminal was one of the worst things they have done. It never should have gone on as long as it did. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:51:58 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 21:04:27 2014. Fulton is staffed.... |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:53:21 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 21:37:36 2014. It was ridiculous when they started that and even more so now. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:54:20 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 25 23:36:34 2014. Yes but it involves transfers for J people. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:56:50 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 25 21:35:56 2014. Exactly. Originally it was only to be temporary .....but it lasted like 20 years. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 26 07:33:16 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:54:20 2014. Even with availability with transfers to other trains at Canal and Chambers, ridership south of Essex is miniscule. I think they just politically need to serve the Fulton Taj Mahal. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 26 07:34:35 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:51:58 2014. Maybe they will staff one more "token booth" ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 26 07:41:41 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:50:10 2014. Particularly being the rat infested shit-house Chambers is, they should not be encouraging people to transfer there.The concrete collapse was perfect timing. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 08:53:34 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 26 07:33:16 2014. Actually, the Nassau service should be the part time service and the 6th ave service the full time service. The Nassau line could add well be an Essex to broad shuttle on weekends. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 26 09:15:56 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:53:21 2014. I understand it was a bad idea, but if any station COULD have been shut down on weekends, it's Broad St. The area around the NYSE is quiet on weekends and there's the 2/3 and the 4/5 a block away.And remember, for several years the J train on weekends terminated at Canal St. That was even worse. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 26 09:19:13 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:54:20 2014. We're not talking about Fulton St, which should never have been closed to begin with. Not only is that area busy, it's also a transfer point between J riders and PATH, which on weekends is a big deal.I'm happy both stations are going to be open. I am just saying that it's Fulton St that will see 90% of the usage by people remaining on J trains south of Chambers St. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 26 09:22:06 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 08:53:34 2014. Hmmmm, J train to Forest Hills via Chrystie 24/7? M train to Broad St? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 26 09:23:35 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by randyo on Sat Jul 26 02:05:41 2014. I was under the impression the tower has to be manned when the station is operating as a terminal. If this is not true, there's simply no financial justification for ending the service at Chambers. |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Jul 26 10:24:55 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 26 09:23:35 2014. There will be more RTO supervisor jobs added....... |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sat Jul 26 11:48:30 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 26 07:33:16 2014. I agree that the building of the Fulton Transit Center is probably the reason for the newly proposed opening of the Broad Street and Fulton Street stations on the weekends.It could also be that the Master Tower at Essex Street "gained" the ability to control the switches at Broad Street over the years, reducing the economic-manpower reason for the station's closing. Leaving only the Fulton Transit Center, and the amount of trouble for J-train riders "reasons" for the closure or opening of those stations. Many stations seem to operate with only the station booth agent as a presence. Plus the activities even on weekends has changed for the Financial District, and having those stations open can also spur the idea that the area is "alive again" after Hurricane Sandy. There is also possibly another reason - Hurricane Sandy work. The MTA has repeatedly said that there will be more tunnel repair and restoration work to come, after the fixing of the G-train tunnels. That could mean the closures of the Cranberry, Joralemon, or Rutgers Street tunnels for some periods of time. Having the J-train run to its full lengths all of the time - just might help with the transfers between the various lines. Mike |
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Posted by The Silence on Sat Jul 26 12:07:30 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 02:56:50 2014. Originally it was only to be temporary .....but it lasted like 20 years....well doesn't that sound familiar... |
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Posted by rockparklocal on Sat Jul 26 13:27:53 2014, in response to Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:53:34 2014. How about the J going to South Brooklyn permanently. Helping the R or another line? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 26 14:07:08 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Michael549 on Sat Jul 26 11:48:30 2014. How badly were Rutgers, Cranberry, and Joralemon flooded by Sandy? |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 26 14:30:50 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 26 14:07:08 2014. They all getting some TLC but it won't be as like the long term R train tunnel closure. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jul 26 15:21:10 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Michael549 on Sat Jul 26 11:48:30 2014. A soon as the old interlocking machines at Chambers and Broad were removed, Essex had control of both Chambers and Broad. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jul 26 15:23:18 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Jul 26 10:24:55 2014. Correct, although when the old Broad St tower was still active there was no supervision at Broad overnight and on weekends, just a Tw/O. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jul 26 15:25:42 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by The Silence on Sat Jul 26 12:07:30 2014. Like the absence of 24/7 R service the Qns Blvd. When I was still working up to 1997, the head of RT Service Planning claimed the TA was committed to restoring full time R service to Qns Blvd once certain work in the 60 St tunnel was completed. We're still waiting. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sat Jul 26 15:34:29 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 26 14:07:08 2014. From The Mta's Superstorm Sandy: Fix & Fortify Efforts Continuehttp://web.mta.info/sandy/river_crossings.htm MTA River Crossings Damaged by Sandy ------------------------------------- Harlem River Lift Bridge (1955) 750,000 daily riders Closed for trains 3 days Unable to open Bridge for ships 10 weeks 53 Street Tube E Line & F Line (1933) 1 mile long 275,000 daily riders 500,000 gallons of saltwater Closed 7 days Steinway Tube (1910’s) #7 Line 1.1 miles long 200,000 daily riders 1 million gallons of saltwater Closed 6 days Queens-Midtown Tunnel (1940) 1.2 miles long 81,000 daily vehicles and 1,100 buses 12 million gallons of saltwater 10 days to fully open LIRR East River Tunnels (1910) 2.4 miles long 226,000 daily riders (LIRR+Amtrak) 13.6 million gallons of saltwater 12 days to fully open Greenpoint Tube G Line (1930’s) 4,000 feet long 55,000 daily riders 3 million gallons of saltwater Closed 10 days Canarsie Tube L Line (1920’s) 1.4 miles long 200,000 daily riders 7 million gallons of saltwater Closed 11 days Rutgers Tube F Line (1930’s) 1 mile long 130,000 daily riders 1.5 million gallons of saltwater Closed 7 days Cranberry Tube A Line C Line (1930’s) 1.6 miles long 230,000 daily riders 1.5 million gallons of saltwater Closed 7 days Clark Tube 2 Line 3 Line (1910’s) 1.2 miles long 145,000 daily riders .5 million gallons of saltwater Closed 6 days Montague Tube R Line (1920’s) 1.9 miles long 65,000 (pre-storm) daily riders 27 million gallons of saltwater Closed 53 days Joralemon Tube 4 Line 5 Line (1908) 1.3 miles long 185,000 daily riders No long-term flooding Closed 6 days Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel/ Hugh L. Carey Tunnel (1950) 1.7 miles long 47,700 daily vehicles and 3,100 buses 60 million gallons of saltwater 21 days to fully open Rockaway Line A Line (1950’s) 3.5 miles long 31,000 daily riders (pre-Sandy) Closed 7 months |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jul 26 16:07:59 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Michael549 on Sat Jul 26 15:34:29 2014. The date is wrong on the Harlem R Lift Br. The current span was put in in 1960. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 26 16:34:44 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by rockparklocal on Sat Jul 26 13:27:53 2014. Lack of cars and $$$$$$$$. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sat Jul 26 19:03:56 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by randyo on Sat Jul 26 16:07:59 2014. Thanks, but the information was supplied by the MTA. I'll correct my notes.Mike |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Jul 26 19:39:59 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 21:44:21 2014. Not with many new residents living there. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Jul 26 19:44:22 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Michael549 on Sat Jul 26 15:34:29 2014. Interesting that the 60 and 63 St. tubes were not damaged. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 20:03:44 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 26 09:22:06 2014. M train people would kill.... |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Jul 26 20:05:43 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 26 09:15:56 2014. Yes.....I remember canal St. It terminated on the old queens bound "express" track |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 27 00:07:21 2014, in response to Re: Coming soon: Weekend (J) train service extension to Broad Street, posted by Michael549 on Sat Jul 26 19:03:56 2014. Just goes to show the ignorance of some MTA people!!! |
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