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ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:13:20 2014 I was reading about the demolition of the Fulton Street El in the Brooklyn Eagle site, |
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Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 25 15:19:49 2014, in response to ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:13:20 2014. If true at all, there was no such equipment there in the past 20 years except for 2 sets of "D" types that were "hidden" on 42 track until 2011. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:24:46 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 25 15:19:49 2014. I was a bit surprised when I read it, but it would have been logical to use the recycled rails, ties, signals, etc, in the yard. Hopefully something made it past the wartime scrappers and was used in the Pitkin Yard! Perhaps that one signal which we keep hearing about at 76th Street? |
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Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 25 15:35:50 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:24:46 2014. There was one R-12 in Concourse Yard that was completely filled with old signal equipment. Ties and rails would likely not be reused so if it was there it was only stored until it could be scrapped. |
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Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:45:40 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 25 15:35:50 2014. When was that? |
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Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 16:36:47 2014, in response to ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:13:20 2014. It's possible that some of the rails and signals would have been recycled before the war erupted and demand for scrap would have taken precedent. Especially the Fulton, which was dual contracts between Rockaway and Nostrand Aves. |
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Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 25 18:04:32 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:45:40 2014. The car was there in 1994 when I first began working in Concourse yard and was there well after 2005 when I left there for the last time. |
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Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 25 18:04:42 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 16:36:47 2014. None of the signals in Pitkin Yd are of the traditional BMT type but all are of the standard IND GRS type. It's doubtful that there would have been any placement of any recycled BMT parts to Pitkin Yd since there was quite a time span between the shutdown of the western portion of Fulton and the completion of Pitkin Yd, somewhere between 5 and 7 years. What is known is that some of the third rail and signals from Fulton were used on the Dyre Av Line when the city started operating it. |
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Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 19:24:14 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 25 18:04:32 2014. Anyone ever say where the stuff had come from- and when? |
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Posted by train dude on Fri Jul 25 21:24:47 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 19:24:14 2014. By the numbers on the signals, iirc they came from the Pelham & 14th St lines. |
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Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 22:06:02 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by train dude on Fri Jul 25 21:24:47 2014. Oh well, thanks, anyway! |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 26 11:18:24 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 25 15:35:50 2014. That car is LONG gone, gone to the scrapper. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 26 22:19:14 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 26 11:18:24 2014. I suspected that it was. When I retired they had push on to get all of the old junkers out of all the yards. |
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Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 27 13:36:50 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by randyo on Fri Jul 25 18:04:42 2014. I thought the IND and BMT used the same signals. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 27 14:16:09 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by randyo on Fri Jul 25 18:04:42 2014. Were the signals from the rebuilt (and closed) Fulton St el similar to those of the IND? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 27 14:17:37 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 27 13:36:50 2014. They use the same signal aspects - not necessarily the same signal equipment. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 27 14:20:02 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 27 14:17:37 2014. So, if they had been used in the Pitkin Yard, after the war, you would be able to tell the difference? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 27 16:26:11 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 27 14:20:02 2014. I don't know. I got to Pitkin Yard in June of 2005 - that's 60 years after the war. I presume that signals were upgraded once or twice in those 60 years. What are you actually looking for? IIRC some of the old BMT signals were semaphore type. I don't believe that any were ever used on the IND. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 27 16:46:01 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 27 16:26:11 2014. Just want to know what happened to the BMT signals, etc, after they were removed from the Fulton el, after 6/01/40. Where where they stored and were they ever reused in Pitkin yard, or elsewhere? |
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Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard! |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 27 20:42:15 2014, in response to Re: ex-BMT Equipment In IND Pitkin Yard!, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 27 16:46:01 2014. iirc,they were used on the dyre ave.line. |
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