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Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 18 08:52:34 2014 GothamistThey really need to fix this place up. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 18 09:09:18 2014, in response to Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 18 08:52:34 2014. Chambers St is a relic of an era gone by: An era when it was an important station on an important line. Sic transit gloria mundi. That means a sick transit (station) grows moldy. I think. |
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Posted by caine515 on Fri Jul 18 13:18:28 2014, in response to Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 18 08:52:34 2014. The ceiling was repainted in 2009 or 2010 but that's the only thing that was done |
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Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Jul 18 14:49:52 2014, in response to Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 18 08:52:34 2014. Was anything revealed underneath? :)--Mark |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 18 15:45:37 2014, in response to Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 18 08:52:34 2014. No, this station being rehabbed is a sign of an impending apocalypse. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 18 18:47:28 2014, in response to Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 18 08:52:34 2014. They won't do anything until someone gets crushed with a bigger piece. Remember the Steinway tunnel incident? |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Jul 19 02:59:59 2014, in response to Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 18 08:52:34 2014. I think it will take nothing short of a full slab collapse to prompt any serious repairs there. This little piece (and that's what it looks like) is just a portent of things to come.wayne ' |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jul 19 09:44:17 2014, in response to Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 18 08:52:34 2014. Probably the money that would have fixed up the Chambers Street station was hijacked to pay for the LIRR settlement. |
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Posted by TheHat on Sat Jul 19 13:40:01 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jul 19 09:44:17 2014. yeah, if it was for the 1994 settlement. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 19 14:46:28 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Jul 18 14:49:52 2014. With all of the ancient sewer, water, utility pipes, above and around Chambers Street, I'd be afraid to look! I've said this before, I think the City and the MTA are afraid of just how big a job that rehab would be. Once they start to uncover and try to trace these pipes. or whatever, it's gonna get mighty costly! |
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Posted by GIS Man on Fri Jul 25 08:42:50 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 18 09:09:18 2014. Or "Gloria got sick on the subway last Monday".LOL Bob |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 25 09:32:37 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 18 15:45:37 2014. Chambers is so big it would cost a fortune to fully rehab. While as a railfan I'm glad the closed uptown side platform was never covered up (it is a marvelous open-air time capsule) I'm surprised it never has been. Chambers is the 1930's frozen in time. I hope they never fix it. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:45:02 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 25 09:32:37 2014. It's a huge job. No wonder they don't want to rehab it. You have old water & sewer pipes dating from the pre-1913 opening of the station. Plus, others, dating from the 1938 opening of the Municipal Archives, which incorporated some of the station mezzanine. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 25 15:46:06 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:45:02 2014. And imagine all the asbestos in the ceiling and walls - just the asbestos abatement in connection with a full renovation would cost millions. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:50:14 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 25 15:46:06 2014. Good point! No one really knows exactly what lies above, alongside, or below Chambers Street. Unless the "Bermuda Tunnelrat" can enlighten us what's down there! |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jul 25 18:31:53 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:50:14 2014. There is no comprehensive set of plans? Even though old, I would think there's at least some idea that there's a pipe or etc in a certain spot minus a stray upgrade/update.I have full confidence though. I have seen enough politicans speeches to know that our multicultural workforce can fix anything that the non-diverse crew of ye olden times made. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 19:09:48 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jul 25 18:31:53 2014. Well, if they start work tomorrow, Chambers Street should be all fixed by the time the 2nd Ave Subway is connected to it- in 30 years! LOL! Especially if Schiavone gets the contract! |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 19:19:48 2014, in response to Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 18 08:52:34 2014. Pretty soon... MTA will put a tarp on the ceiling |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 25 19:54:09 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 19:19:48 2014. Be like Washington Union Station rotunda. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 27 16:05:25 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 25 09:32:37 2014. I agree. However, if the rehab was paired with certain types of major service improvements, then I would be more receptive to it. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 27 18:46:59 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Jul 19 02:59:59 2014. Chambers St. is becoming a disaster area. We're talking about a renovation of Ellis Island proportions here.Oh and speaking of renovations, Denver's Union Station reopened yesterday as the Crawford Hotel. The main waiting room is now a food court similar to the lower level at GCT, but it still functions as a train depot (Amtrak has a ticket window) and once the commuter lines open, it will be Denver's main transit hub. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 27 18:50:53 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 25 15:50:14 2014. Well, the IRT Brooklyn Bridge station is right next it to the west. If you knocked out the wall, both stations would be in plain sight of each other. And to the east, you have never-used trackways that were intended for at least one additional platform. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 27 19:23:59 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 27 18:46:59 2014. Becoming? :) |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun Jul 27 21:41:34 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 27 18:50:53 2014. and to the south, you have never-used trackways for the Brooklyn Bridge connection. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 28 20:38:49 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by renee gil on Sun Jul 27 21:41:34 2014. Yep, you sure do. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 28 20:48:10 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 27 19:23:59 2014. You could say that. Amtrak is back, the new underground bus terminal is open for business and you have three light rail lines terminating there.Train Hall has eight tracks. Amtrak uses the middle two, Tracks 4 and 5, and both extend all the way through. The other six tracks have a staggered platform arrangement. Track 1 extends all the way through and has a continuous platform. You could fit at least an eight-car commmuter train on that track. Even the station going up at DIA isn't that long. The Airport Line will be a limited-stop deal, with only six stops in all, and most of those will only accommodate two, maybe three cars. It'll be interesting to see if conductors will be used, if for no other reason than to cut out doors on longer trains. Track 2 extends all the way through, but its platform begins about halfway through. Track 3 ends at bumper posts roughly where the platform for Track 2 begins. On the other side, Track 6 mimics Track 3, Track 7 mimics Track 2 and Track eight ends about 3/4 of the way through. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 28 20:50:44 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 27 19:23:59 2014. OK, I get what you were saying. Chambers St. is a diasater area. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jul 28 20:53:06 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 18 09:09:18 2014. Gloria Mundi sucks transit? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 28 23:39:58 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 28 20:50:44 2014. There ya go! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 28 23:48:36 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 28 20:48:10 2014. Not bad! I'll bet it even got some paint. :) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 29 21:35:23 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 28 23:39:58 2014. I'd hate to be around if that seiling were to ever cave in. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 30 15:50:15 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 29 21:35:23 2014. Especially with a basement full of municipal archives, dating back to 1938, or earlier! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 31 11:03:26 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 25 09:32:37 2014. My take on what should happen to the Chambers Station to make it a renovated station, which wouldn't involve renovating the whole thing, for platforms and infrastructural that's not needed.Step one, connect the Broad St bound "express" track to the Queens bound "local" track from Fulton St. Yes, I know it would involve a lot, but in the long run, it would be worth it. Step two, put a wall up at the edge of the southbound side of the middle platform, in essence walling off the middle platform from the Broad St bound platform, as well as the whole "Queens side" of the station. Abandon the Queensbound platform, which would now be out of view from the current "Broad St bound" platform. Then renovate the "Broad St bound" platform in a Grecian design similar to the other stations on the line. In essence you would now have a two track, island platform station at Chambers and all the unused, unnecessary platforms and area could be left to fall apart on the other side of the wall, out of view. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 12:20:30 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 31 11:03:26 2014. I would also put in a lower ceiling. The high ceiling would be weird with only one platform. It also solves the problem of having to fix the existing ceiling. They would still need to stabilize it, but it wouldn't have to look good. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 31 12:28:54 2014, in response to Re: Large Chunk Of Concrete Liberates Itself From Ceiling At Chambers Street Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 12:20:30 2014. Yes, I agree. Perhaps sloped so that it can collect water that falls on it, and funnel it away. |
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