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Get ready to foam, 1965 |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014 
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 22 12:20:00 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. Not electrified, lame. :-P |
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Posted by Jrice on Tue Jul 22 12:58:14 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. Nice! Can anyone better versed in engines ID them, please? |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 13:01:33 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. How certain is that 1965 date? I'm no expert on New Haven's motive power, but I'd be surprised to learn that the New Haven still had passenger engines in the green pre-McGinnis livery as late as 1965. A DL-109 still in service in mid-Sixties also seems surprising.Alan Follett Hercules, CA |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 13:13:05 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Jrice on Tue Jul 22 12:58:14 2014. From left to right, Alco PA-1, Fairbanks-Morse CPA24-5 "C-Liner", and Alco DL-109.Alan Follett Hercules, CA |
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Posted by BMRR on Tue Jul 22 13:53:27 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. The one on the left is a ALCO FA 1. |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 14:05:34 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by BMRR on Tue Jul 22 13:53:27 2014. 773 was a PA-1. The most obvious spotting differences between the PA and FA series are the trucks (A1A-A1A vs. BB) and the curved molding behind the cab windows--PAs (except for the few PA-4s) had it, FAs didn't.Alan Follett Hercules, CA |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jul 22 14:10:23 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 22 12:20:00 2014. NH never electrified N(E?) of New Haven. something about capital... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jul 22 14:16:12 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. Nice!!! Thank You. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 15:04:42 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 13:01:33 2014. The date is incorrect. All DL-109's were retired by 1960 except for a lone unit which was used as a Power Plant at South South. It was cut up for scrap in 1970. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 15:06:50 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by BMRR on Tue Jul 22 13:53:27 2014. No, Alan is correct. The Fa's were numbered 0400-0429. The PA's in the 0760-0786. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 15:11:03 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 15:04:42 2014. I meant to type South Station. |
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Posted by chud1 on Tue Jul 22 15:30:26 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars on this picture.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Jul 22 15:54:57 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 13:13:05 2014. and an orange RS3 behind them? |
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Posted by Bill D on Tue Jul 22 16:22:14 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. Very, Very Nice!!!Bill |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 16:30:50 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Jul 22 15:54:57 2014. Oh, yeah, I missed the switcher in the background. An orange livery was used on New Haven RS-3s even before the McGinnis makeover, so it doesn't help much in dating the photo.Alan Follett Hercules, CA |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 22 16:32:55 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 13:01:33 2014. It would be impossible, as they were all retired by 1960. 1955 sounds like a better date. |
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Re: Get ready to foam, 1955 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 22 17:27:52 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. Wouldn't have thought that the pre-McGinnis would still have been around nine years after he was gone. Never mind the time-displaced DL109. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 22 17:29:48 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 22 12:20:00 2014. I would have liked to have seen EP-4s and MUs in that area back then too, but Washington DC was getting highway-happy by then and was piling regulations on the railroads. |
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Posted by milantram on Tue Jul 22 17:46:03 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 14:05:34 2014. Also, the numbering series were different for freight and passenger Alcos. Freight units were in the 04xx series; passenger, 07xx. |
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Jul 22 18:06:19 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 16:30:50 2014. Allan you seem quite knowledgable on engines. Is that DL made by Balwin? Is that the model they called a "baby face" or a "centipede"? The latter because of the power trucks configuration and the former because of the smaller smiling face - as is seen in the photo. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 22 18:39:45 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Jul 22 18:06:19 2014. The DL109 is Alco, as already noted. The NH called them the DER-1a (first batch) and DER-1b. They had two straight-six four-stroke turbocharged Alco-built 539T prime movers each. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 22 18:56:46 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 22 16:32:55 2014. Wow, how long did the New Haven have diesel power? To be retired by 1960 means either they ended their careers early or they started quite a bit before WWII. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Tue Jul 22 18:58:23 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 22 18:56:46 2014. Correct. IINM they arrived in 1941, and were used in dual service (passenger by day, freight by night) to cope with the war traffic. |
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Posted by Bill D on Tue Jul 22 19:27:40 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 13:01:33 2014. I checked in Jack Swanberg's book "New Haven Power" for the service lives of these locomotives. The DL-109's were operated from 1941 until 1959, the PA's from 1948 until 1965 and the C-Liners from 1950 (2 demos which were purchased by the New Haven in 1951) until 1962. There were examples of each of these locomotive classes later painted in the McGinnis scheme, including #793 in 1959. So the picture would predate that time.Bill |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 19:29:59 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by K. Trout on Tue Jul 22 18:58:23 2014. The DL-109's arrived on NH property on Dec. 13, 1941. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 22 19:30:32 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 22 18:56:46 2014. These particular engines were ordered during WWII, and the railroad had to get permission from the government to get them made by ALCOA. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Tue Jul 22 19:40:28 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. Foaming, and then some!!!!jrc |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Jul 23 02:28:23 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jul 22 14:10:23 2014. Yet they poured what today would be billions into the NY, Westchester and Back to compete with their host railroad into GCT in that railroad's backyard. I'm not sure which was more foolish, the cessation of electrification at New Haven back in the 1910s as they created the NYW&B, or McGinnis' idiotic dismantling of the electrified branch lines half a century later while he sought to provide a one-seat ride between GCT and Boston without considering electrification.Essentially Amtrak undid the New Haven's grave blunder nearly a century on when they completed the electrification to Boston South Station. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jul 23 19:23:40 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 19:29:59 2014. Thanks for the info! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jul 23 19:24:08 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 22 19:30:32 2014. Interesting, thanks! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jul 23 19:39:52 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. Nice!!! :-) |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 23 21:41:05 2014, in response to Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 22 12:14:26 2014. I foamed a lot. Thanks Dave!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Jul 23 22:10:46 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jul 23 19:23:40 2014. YW! |
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Posted by MR RT on Thu Jul 24 07:37:46 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 22 13:13:05 2014. Yes, three clasics all in one shot ... great ! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jul 24 12:54:04 2014, in response to Re: Get ready to foam, 1965, posted by K. Trout on Tue Jul 22 18:58:23 2014. OK thanks! |
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