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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 10:06:55 2014, in response to Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 09:55:18 2014. I don't know how punctual they are but if he has to be there on time he should take the earlier train and then cool his heels somewhere if the train is even halfway punctual. I once had to be in Toronto at 9 AM and if I wasn't there it would cause me a huge amount of additional time at a future date. So I just aimed to arrive at 1:30 the previous afternoon (ridiculously early) to be sure I'd make it. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 20 10:37:15 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 10:06:55 2014. Train 64 from Toronto tends to be unpunctual due to US Customs.Don't even think about taking 48 back. NS delays trains for hours west of Cleveland. However, CSX is known for delaying Amtrak trains west of Schenectady back to Cleveland. Basically, the Empire "Corridor" , such as it is, sucks as much as it did in the 1970's. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 20 10:41:09 2014, in response to Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 09:55:18 2014. I looked at amtrak.com and found that last week both those trains got into SYR between 20 min and over an hour late. Yesterday train 63 was only 10 minutes late. So...the train could likely be late and I'd take the earlier one of the 2 (both performed equally good/bad). Hope this helps.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Jul 20 11:05:16 2014, in response to Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 09:55:18 2014. Amtrak tickets can be purchased online or purchased from a ticket agent at Penn. Ticket prices increase as bookings increase. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 11:22:50 2014, in response to Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 09:55:18 2014. Thanks all. I think we're going to stick with the bus. Either that or I'll risk discipline and bang in and drive him. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Jul 20 11:34:57 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by chuchubob on Sun Jul 20 11:05:16 2014. Well, going North/West customs is not in play. The Syracuse station is intermodal, with bus lines right outside, although I'm not sure that is where the Oswego bus originates. That is a very heavy freight stretch, and Schenectady to Buffalo you are at the mercy of CSX. If you can get a train with a cushion of an hour and a half or so before the bus, you are probably pretty safe. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 11:35:46 2014, in response to Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 09:55:18 2014. This is why being able to drive is useful. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 20 11:40:29 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by pragmatist on Sun Jul 20 11:34:57 2014. Pragmatist - That's a good super power.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 11:44:26 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 11:35:46 2014. All it takes is time (to learn) and money (to have a car available). Maybe he can drive and Jeff doesn't want to loan him his car. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 11:50:22 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 11:44:26 2014. For someone who's 17-18, not wanting to loan one's car may be a reasonable concern. How well did you drive at that age? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 20 11:55:44 2014, in response to Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 09:55:18 2014. Next month I have a same day 4 1/2 hour connection between the Lake Shore & Empire Builder. I would imagine Amtrak has some confidence a connection will be made otherwise they would have not allowed the booking. I have seen at times the connection is held but what about if I'm like 7 hours late, which I've seen happen? Does Amtrak strand me for a day or do they "put me up"? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 20 12:24:46 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 20 11:55:44 2014. NS is doing trackwork in Indiana with a lot of single-tracking. There are often massive delays to both the Capitol Ltd and Lake Shore Ltd's.The wetsern connections are guaranteed, bit if 49 gets to be 6+ hours late, that only means they'll put you in a hotel for the next day's #7. That can happen if both CSX and NS behave badly on the same trip, and if there are delays upto Albany. The signals tend to go out when they have bad thunderstroms. 449 from Boston is another vulnerability. About 2 weeks ago, 48 ran 11 hour late. Then 449 left Boston 6 hours late, and they did not head west from Albany until they were 6 hours late or about 1am. Western connections we4r missed that trip since they were further delays into Chicago. |
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Posted by Hart Bus on Sun Jul 20 12:41:45 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 11:50:22 2014. Also some colleges do allow freshmen and sophmores to have cars on campus. Don't know if that is the case in this instance.Also having driven my daughter to SUNY-Buffalo, its a loooong drive and a relief driver is a necessity. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Jul 20 13:09:36 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 11:35:46 2014. This is why being able to drive is useful.The other alternative would be to pick schools that are actually on Amtrak. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 13:10:19 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Hart Bus on Sun Jul 20 12:41:45 2014. I've driven between Buffalo and New York City alone.And I would think car parking rules would be different for orientation than for the academic year. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 20 13:52:00 2014, in response to Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 09:55:18 2014. Jeff, would you consider paying someone to drive him? If so, shoot me an email. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Jul 20 13:54:38 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 11:35:46 2014. IAWTP!chud1. :).... |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 13:59:47 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 11:50:22 2014. My parents let me drive their only car to Vermont for a 4-day skiing trip with 3 friends before I was 17. But I can understand other attitudes. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Jul 20 14:14:17 2014, in response to Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 09:55:18 2014. Sarge, did you file a grievance? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 14:42:17 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 20 11:55:44 2014. Next month I have a same day 4 1/2 hour connection between the Lake Shore & Empire Builder.Ha. I gave that some thought. Train to East Glacier Park vs plane to Great Falls, MT. I gave up on the train. 2 days to get there if all goes well but 3 days to get back. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 20 15:12:34 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 14:42:17 2014. A lot of people fly to Kalispell too, |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 15:28:37 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 20 15:12:34 2014. Considerably more expensive, like $200 round trip more. Besides, the east side of Glacier Park is more interesting, and GTF vs Kalispell is almost a wash to there. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 20 15:34:31 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 15:28:37 2014. The East and West side are geologically and meteorlogicaly very different. It depends on what else you are looking for, or wish to go to up to Waterton.But WHitefish is a nice town to spend some time in. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Jul 20 19:59:57 2014, in response to Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 09:55:18 2014. Jeff, a bit off topic, but the bus service I run served SUNY Oswego last year. I know you said your son HATES buses, and I'm not even too sure we're going to be serving Oswego this year, but either way, keep me in mind just in case when he needs to get back to the island. The service is called Catch-a-Ride, www.vincenttransit.com. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 20 23:29:32 2014, in response to Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 09:55:18 2014. Take the leaf. Amtrak closes the rear cars on some of the upstate Empire trains which sucks for photographs. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jul 21 05:45:51 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 11:44:26 2014. He doesn't drive. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jul 21 05:49:36 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Dave on Sun Jul 20 14:14:17 2014. Not really. We'll see what happens when the high holidays come. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jul 21 14:41:02 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 20 23:29:32 2014. Both the Leaf and Empire trains have been running with Business class end of the cafe trailing, so either way, you have to be in BC to get rear views. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 22 08:21:17 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 20 13:52:00 2014. Jeff, would you consider paying someone to drive him? If so, shoot me an email.Never mind then. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Jul 22 08:38:10 2014, in response to Re: Amtrak help (especially by the experts), posted by R30A on Mon Jul 21 14:41:02 2014. That's actually good. I'd rather have to pay extra than save a few $ and get shut out completely. |
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