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I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014

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I needed some Magne-traction fluid for my Lionel 646 steam engine as the loco's wheels were slipping on level track. I always got it at Madison Hardware, but I couldn't find the store today. Did they move?

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 20 15:11:49 2014, in response to I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014.

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Call up Carl Sagen and see if you can go back in time about 27 years.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Sir Ray on Sun Jul 20 15:29:53 2014, in response to I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014.

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Since you were already in the 20s, and apparently also living in the '80s, why didn't you just go to America's Hobby Center on 22nd St?


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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 15:30:53 2014, in response to I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014.

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I think a lot of things are moving. Just last week, I tried to take the el to Gimbels to get some things I needed, but I couldn't find the store. Or the el.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 15:33:06 2014, in response to I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014.

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Do you mean Vercesi Hardware, aka 23rd Street Hardware, on 23rd between Lex and 3rd?



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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 20 16:36:44 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 15:30:53 2014.

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I took the J train to Jamaica last December. I was going to take it to 160th Street and head to Macy's to sit on Santa's lap, but none of that is there anymore. So disappointed.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 17:33:29 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 20 15:11:49 2014.

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"Call up Carl Sagen and see if you can go back in time about 27 years. "


I called the operator but she said his telephone service had been disconnected about 20 years ago.


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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 18:31:43 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 20 16:36:44 2014.

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Actually, the J to 160th is pretty much still there (even if it is in a tunnel now). So there's that I guess.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 20 19:01:30 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 15:30:53 2014.

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Next time take the autogyro.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by B53RICH on Sun Jul 20 19:52:48 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 20 16:36:44 2014.

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Also in Jamaica, I needed to find out the time so I went to May's. The big clock inside was gone... and so was May's. Then I decided to head home and catch the B53 bus. Stood there like forever, it never showed up!

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by aaron on Sun Jul 20 19:53:57 2014, in response to I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014.

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It's next to Ratner's...

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 21:12:14 2014, in response to I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014.

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See dan lawrence, He had the flux capacitors on his way-back machine vulcanized recently.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 20 21:19:29 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 21:12:14 2014.

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Sorry Steve, but I NEVER had a way-back machine. heypaul is out of luck!!

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 21:46:04 2014, in response to I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014.

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Dick Kughn, who purchased Lionel in 1989, bought out Madison Hardware for their Lionel Parts inventory and closed the store, there-after.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Karl B on Mon Jul 21 00:05:01 2014, in response to I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014.

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You were told to not coat your track with Vaseline to prevent rust.

Now look what you have done

That Magne-traction fluid is going to cost you a fortune.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by chud1 on Mon Jul 21 05:22:09 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 20 19:01:30 2014.

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take Dr Who's Tardis to find Madison Hardware.
chud1.
:)....

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by MR RT on Mon Jul 21 07:57:10 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 21:46:04 2014.

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But the Red Caboose is still there ... in the basement

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 21 08:18:20 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 18:31:43 2014.

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But I'd imagine the J elevated all the way to 168th would be fantastic railfanning. As it is, the J is my favorite line to railfan. I drool thinking about riding at the RFW all the way from Broad Street to 168th, elevated 75% of the way.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 21 08:30:59 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 20 19:01:30 2014.

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No. He's not trying to send aeromail to the Prussian consulate in Siam.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 21 08:32:26 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 21 08:30:59 2014.

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(and yes, I am aware that by the time the autogyro was invented, there could no longer have been a Prussian consulate in Siam)

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Mr. D - Type on Mon Jul 21 09:06:16 2014, in response to I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014.

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I used to get carbon brushes for my R-9 fan @ Verecsi.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by heypaul on Mon Jul 21 10:14:37 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Karl B on Mon Jul 21 00:05:01 2014.

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Hi Karl

I only put Vaseline on the tight curves to key the wheels from screeching.

I should have bought a couple of extra bottles of Magne-traction fluid last time I was at
Madison.

I'm hoping now that the Firestone toy store in Sheepshead Bay where my father bought the set in the 1950's is still in business. Maybe the have some new old stock lying around.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jul 21 11:39:28 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Mon Jul 21 10:14:37 2014.

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A "Firestone toy store" in Sheepshead Bay? I thought we had the only one of those on University Avenue in the Bronx. Actually, the real name of the place was J. Faletta & Sons, or something like that. But everyone called it "Firestone" because it was located in a storefront that had formerly been a Firestone Tire dealership, and had left the big sign above the entrance reading "Firestone" intact. Was the story in Sheepshead Bay similar?

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Mon Jul 21 14:17:07 2014, in response to I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Sun Jul 20 15:05:08 2014.

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I needed some Magne-traction fluid for my Lionel 646 steam engine as the loco's wheels were slipping on level track. I always got it at Madison Hardware, but I couldn't find the store today.

Heypaul: I find that banana oil is a good substitute.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 21 14:59:49 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by MR RT on Mon Jul 21 07:57:10 2014.

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Also, you could try TrainWorld at 751 McDonald Av in Bkln which If I recall is right under the Ditmas Av station of the F Line or its sister store TrainLand 293 Sunrise Hwy in Lynbrook LI.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by heypaul on Mon Jul 21 15:31:32 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jul 21 11:39:28 2014.

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That was 60 years ago. I just searched Google and came up with some people reminiscing about my area. Firestone was mentioned as selling toys, bikes and Lionel trains. In an old issue of the civil service paper The Leader, it was listed as giving discounts to people looking to buy tires also. We didn't have a car when I was a kid, so I don't remember any car connection. I can visualize the owner though.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jul 21 17:34:03 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by heypaul on Mon Jul 21 15:31:32 2014.

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Hmm. I do have a vague memory of the Bronx Firestone having a tire displayed on the sidewalk at the same time as there were toys and games on the shelves, but I thought I was probably confused about that, since it seems like such an odd combination. Maybe the Bronx Firestone really did sell toys while it was still officially Firestone, and when the Falettas took over, they just dropped the tires and kept the other part of the business.

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by MR RT on Tue Jul 22 07:13:02 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 21 14:59:49 2014.

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Yes, but neither has the Megne-Traction fluid that HeyPaul needs :-(

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by Nilet on Tue Jul 22 20:37:58 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 21 08:18:20 2014.

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I wasn't born until after the J was cut back to 121st, let alone Queens Boulevard, so for me the J to 168th is just another long-gone line that the old people get to talk about having ridden.

If I had a time machine, the J to 168th would be way down the list of priorities (though the 12 to 168th out of Park Row might make the short list).

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Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today

Posted by randyo on Tue Jul 22 21:53:22 2014, in response to Re: I Couldn't Find Madison Hardware on East 23rd St Today, posted by MR RT on Tue Jul 22 07:13:02 2014.

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OK, I thought that they might considering the size of the stores.

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