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This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by heypaul on Sun Apr 13 08:09:02 2014

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Jug Cerovic, an architect, has worked on standardizing subway maps from several major cities in effort to make them easier to read.


Check out the New York Map

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by artenn3164 on Sun Apr 13 12:23:37 2014, in response to This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by heypaul on Sun Apr 13 08:09:02 2014.

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I see he got rid of the superfluous names on the A, as well as Ely Ave. but those on the 7 (Rawson, Lowery, Bliss etc) live on...

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 13 13:48:32 2014, in response to This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by heypaul on Sun Apr 13 08:09:02 2014.

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Very well done. A few quibbles. Eastern Queens is pretty mashed together because he didn't want to use up the space to show it more accurately. Wakefield has moved to the New Haven Line.



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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Apr 13 14:02:33 2014, in response to Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 13 13:48:32 2014.

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'Clarck St' :P

Otherwise - really neat! Like how he has terminal marks for all the commuter railroads. Not to mention showing where those roads are in basic terms.

He used Rawson, Lowery, Bliss...but not Fisk!

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 13 14:18:46 2014, in response to Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Apr 13 14:02:33 2014.

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He used Rawson, Lowery, Bliss...but not Fisk!

Just like the official subway map.

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Apr 13 14:33:45 2014, in response to This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by heypaul on Sun Apr 13 08:09:02 2014.

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Design aspects are nice, but I don't like the distortion of the NYC map.

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 13 14:41:47 2014, in response to Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Apr 13 14:02:33 2014.

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I'm sure he did that just to rattle Fisk Ave Jim here. :)

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 14 00:07:39 2014, in response to This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by heypaul on Sun Apr 13 08:09:02 2014.

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ugly maps

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Apr 14 03:26:18 2014, in response to This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by heypaul on Sun Apr 13 08:09:02 2014.

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One major problem with the New York map is that there is no clear distinction made between free transfers and non-free transfers. Other than that, not bad. Showing a single line for express routes (like the 4 and 5) and a separate line for the local (the 6) is an interesting approach, a compromise between using one or three lines. Likewise the thin lines used for rush-hour bypasses (like at 138 St.) But why change the colors significantly on some lines? The color used for the B and D trains looks like the color that was used pre-1979 for the 4 and the F. Why split the line for the Concourse express (separating 155th St. from the bypassed stops in the Bronx)? The geography of Brooklyn and eastern Queens is very distorted, is it really worth doing that in order to get the map's shape/aspect ratio the way he want it? Oh, and showing the 5 at 241 St. is a small but definite error.

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Mon Apr 14 06:39:40 2014, in response to Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Apr 14 03:26:18 2014.

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Which free/non-free transfer isn't clear? While on transfers, the MN connections at Marble Hill on the 1 and 233 St on the 2 are absent and Forest Hills LIRR is completely missing (only one station so not bad). Does the TA actually count that connection on 71 Av? It's not announced on trains like the others but signage indicates it. The F/M should've been pale orange and the B/D standard orange like the other trunk lines. I guess condensing everything led to him not having enough room to label Harlem-148 and have a continuous D express line. I'm confused more so by the fact that J/Z express isn't shown as a thin line between Myrtle and Marcy , as well as why the A is stopping at Lafayette-Franklin. The distortion in Queens really only skewed the fact that Jamaica-179 is east of Murray Hill and Broadway .

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Apr 14 10:04:20 2014, in response to Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Mon Apr 14 06:39:40 2014.

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>> Which free/non-free transfer isn't clear?

The two subway stations at Penn Station (7 Av and 8 Av - along with the railroad station itself) are shown enclosed in the same kind of grouping symbol as the various parts of the subway station at Times Square. Also the connection between the BMT Cortlandt St. (R) station and the A/C/E/2/3 WTC complex. PATH is included there too, as it is elsewhere on the map, also Metro-North at GCT.

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Apr 14 10:11:59 2014, in response to Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by artenn3164 on Sun Apr 13 12:23:37 2014.

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but those on the 7 (Rawson, Lowery, Bliss etc) live on...

Even the R188's have those! Then again, if one were to exit those stations and walk north, there would be street signs carrying those names.

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Apr 14 10:19:28 2014, in response to This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by heypaul on Sun Apr 13 08:09:02 2014.

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Interesting. I don't like the heavy geographic distortion in Brooklyn and eastern Queens.

And what's up with the AirTrain? The map makes it look like one continuous loop: Jamaica, Federal Circle, T1, T2, T4, T5, T7, T8, Federal Circle, Lefferts Blvd, Howard Beach. Inbound Howard Beach trains certainly don't go from Federal Circle to T8. They, like the inbound Jamaica trains, go to T1 first.

And why doesn't anyone show the Z stopping at Alabama? Every Z I've been on has made that stop.

And using L for both the L train and the LIRR is confusing. At least give the LIRR an LI icon.

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by GIS Man on Fri Apr 18 09:09:43 2014, in response to Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 13 13:48:32 2014.

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Forest Hills missing from the LIRR.
Bob

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Apr 18 15:35:25 2014, in response to This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by heypaul on Sun Apr 13 08:09:02 2014.

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Extremely misleading. Looks like Metro Ave. is right near Lowery St. and it has the #1 curving ridiculously in upper Manhattan, among other anomalies.

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Apr 18 23:10:28 2014, in response to Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by artenn3164 on Sun Apr 13 12:23:37 2014.

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They live on because they are the official names of those streets. When the MTA was taking the off the names, the communities complained. The MTA explained that they were doing it because the old names were no longer correct, and removed it from the signs and maps. The communities responded by officially re-instating the secondary names to the actual streets. The MTA then had to restore the secondary names to the stations.

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Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Apr 19 22:51:13 2014, in response to Re: This Architect Has Painstakingly Standardized the World's Subway Maps, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Apr 18 23:10:28 2014.

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Basically true, except the MTA did not have to reinstall the secondary names in its stations. The MTA can call its stations anything it wants. It chose to re-add them so as not to antagonize the community.

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