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For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Mar 12 08:21:43 2014 This Date In NYC Transit History: Monday, March 12, 1906 [108 years ago]...The Interborough Rapid Transit Company expanded passenger service on this date back then its Broadway Boulevard route [today's #1 line] into the upper portion of Manhattan and the Washington Heights-Inwood neighborhood, from 157th Street-Broadway to 215th Street-Amsterdam Avenue [later as 10th Avenue] and then into a temporary terminal at 221st Street-Broadway [the intersection of 9th Avenue and Broadway]. Not all stations were ready to be opened yet on that date, with 168th Street on 4/14/1906, 181st Street on 5/30/1906, and 191st Street much later on 1/14/1911 [that station plans became known as of 9/23/1904 but built afterward, plus its pedestrian passengerway to 190th Street and Broadway opened on 3/8/1913]. Initial service in that area, according to a 1906 map seen on Dave's website, was by shuttle service between 157th Street and 221st Street [9th Avenue] via the longest railroad type tunnel [the Fort George Tunnel] built through solid rock, then via elevated structure north of Dyckman Street-Nagle Avenue. To give you an idea was what the landscape area was like when the IRT went into the further reaches of Manhattan Island, amd obviously would forever changed in time after the subway would go up there, here are a few linked images... Dyckman Street, IRT #1 Line, 11/14/1906. Dyckman Street, IRT #1 Line, Year 1910. 207th Street, IRT #1 Line, Year 1906 [1]. 207th Street, IRT #1 Line, Year 1906 [2]. 207th Street, IRT #1 Line, Year 1910. -William A. Padron ["10th Avenue"] |
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Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Mar 12 08:29:45 2014, in response to For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by William A. Padron on Wed Mar 12 08:21:43 2014. William: That was an excellent post with great pictures. Its hard to imagine that upper Manhattan was ever so sparcely populated.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by GIS Man on Wed Mar 12 08:58:23 2014, in response to For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by William A. Padron on Wed Mar 12 08:21:43 2014. Based on the first image, it appears that the Fort George tunnel was originally intended to have three tracks. This has probably been covered before on this board, but, what's the story?Bob |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 12 09:05:03 2014, in response to For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by William A. Padron on Wed Mar 12 08:21:43 2014. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Mar 12 09:30:41 2014, in response to For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by William A. Padron on Wed Mar 12 08:21:43 2014. If you build it, they will come. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Mar 12 12:33:06 2014, in response to For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by William A. Padron on Wed Mar 12 08:21:43 2014. Indeed amazing stuff, thanks for this. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Mar 12 14:36:04 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by GIS Man on Wed Mar 12 08:58:23 2014. The Fort George tunnel is not wide enough to accommodate three tracks.  --Mark |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 12 14:48:17 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by GIS Man on Wed Mar 12 08:58:23 2014. I'm sure that was a temporary short spur track there. Not seen in the photos was the power station that was built off to the side of it later. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Mar 12 15:32:29 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by GIS Man on Wed Mar 12 08:58:23 2014. Based on the first image, it appears that the Fort George tunnel was originally intended to have three tracks.The third track was a siding that began right outside the mouth of the tunnel. It was in service as a supply track from 1906 to 1929. The car that is on the siding is No 3342. This was the First All-Steel Car built by the Pennsylvania Railroad in 1903. She was found to be too heavy for regular service but she did serve for a number of years as the Paymaster's Car. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by chud1 on Wed Mar 12 15:42:13 2014, in response to For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by William A. Padron on Wed Mar 12 08:21:43 2014. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars on these pictures.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Mar 13 07:26:53 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by Dave on Wed Mar 12 09:30:41 2014. Yep! |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Mar 13 07:27:14 2014, in response to For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by William A. Padron on Wed Mar 12 08:21:43 2014. Excellent!! Thanks for posting... |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Mar 14 08:22:30 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by MainR3664 on Thu Mar 13 07:27:14 2014. You're welcomed, MainR3664, and thanks for the kind words in return too!-William A. Padron ["181"] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Mar 14 08:25:35 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Mar 12 08:29:45 2014. You're welcomed, Larry,RedbirdR33, and thanks for the kind words in return.One footnote: checking the plans for the route, the 181st Street station was to built deep under along "Eleventh Avenue" in that area. That, of course, the street is known there today as Saint Nicholas Avenue. -William A. Padron ["191"] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Mar 14 08:27:26 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Mar 12 12:33:06 2014. You're welcomed, Jackson Park B Train, and thanks for the kind words in return too!-William A. Padron ["168"] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Mar 14 08:28:50 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 12 09:05:03 2014. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-William A. Padron ["215"] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Mar 14 08:30:15 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by chud1 on Wed Mar 12 15:42:13 2014. You're welcomed, chud1, and thanks for the kind words in return too!-William A. Padron ["207"] |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Mar 14 10:58:25 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Mar 12 08:29:45 2014. And within 20 years, it was fully built up!! This helps show how much an integral part of NYC. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Mar 14 11:05:23 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by GIS Man on Wed Mar 12 08:58:23 2014. It certainly does look that way, but as Mr. Feinman has shown, the portal is clearly not wide enough. Maybe funds got tight, and the tunnel was 2 tracks from the first shovelful of earth. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Mar 14 11:07:27 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by MainR3664 on Fri Mar 14 11:05:23 2014. Never mind my previous post. Larry has provided what seems a perfectly credible explanation. |
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Posted by chud1 on Fri Mar 14 16:19:05 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by William A. Padron on Fri Mar 14 08:30:15 2014. ur welcome.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 14 19:04:30 2014, in response to For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by William A. Padron on Wed Mar 12 08:21:43 2014. Nice, Mr. Padrone....thank you!The first 207 st. photo with the rutted dirt road - looks like it could've been miles outside of New York city...... almost like those photos of the Sioux City El |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Mar 15 11:41:06 2014, in response to Re: For The Book of First Runs - 3/12/1906., posted by Express Rider on Fri Mar 14 19:04:30 2014. You're welcomed, Express Rider, and thanks for the kind words in return too!-William A. Padron ["200"] |
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