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R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 00:37:48 2014

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So I came across this photo here: Photo by DanielRivera24 on Flickr


If the information provided by Flickr's to be trusted, this photo was taken just last Thursday January 2nd. It appears 9011 was at the 145th Street IND Station. Seems to be in the middle of a move.

Any ideas?


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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by BEDT26 on Sat Jan 4 00:55:59 2014, in response to R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 00:37:48 2014.

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Good catch MF '86, where and what are the cars future?

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 01:05:19 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by BEDT26 on Sat Jan 4 00:55:59 2014.

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Well, the one pictured (9011) and the seven other R33ML cars are of course preserved. Usually they're parked in two groups (4 cars each) just outside the overhaul shops at 207th Street Yard.

What's got me curious about this picture is that nowadays, whenever these cars are sent out the yard, it is to retrieve some other car(s). Like last fall they picked up R36WF cars 9586-87 and later on, the R27/30 school cars that were scrapped. So I wonder that, if these cars did go out last Thursday, where did they go and if they went out to retrieve anything? I do have an idea. But we'll probably find out soon where the cars went off to.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Ray Jules on Sat Jan 4 01:13:31 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 01:05:19 2014.

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Sometimes they use those cars for other moves that don't pertain to the older cars in any way.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by BEDT26 on Sat Jan 4 01:25:42 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 01:05:19 2014.

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Thanks for your reply and I hope is not a bad thing.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:29:23 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 01:05:19 2014.

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Time to stir the pot.... I wonder if CCY is missing anything?

-Stef

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 4 01:42:56 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:29:23 2014.

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Heh. I know where you're going with that, but I'll let it be. Thanks for the chuckle, bro! :)

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:52:24 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 4 01:42:56 2014.

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I know nothing. It could be a simple transfer from Corona Yard. Then again, NYTM might be getting a new display piece(?).

-Stef

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 01:52:32 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Ray Jules on Sat Jan 4 01:13:31 2014.

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That is true also, as sometimes they go from yard to yard, etc. Just a thought, though. Or just a move into the tunnels as the snow and cold weather pass.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 01:53:17 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:29:23 2014.

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I am visiting a friend in the area later. I might swing by and see.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 01:53:48 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by BEDT26 on Sat Jan 4 01:25:42 2014.

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No problem. And not a bad thing at all.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:54:36 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 01:52:32 2014.

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Would be a nice thought if they were laid up inside (not revenue equipment), but doubtful.

If that were the case, the R9's should be inside too.

-Stef

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 4 01:55:45 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:52:24 2014.

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I won't give it up - obviously, get it out of the snow, but maybe some "work" needed. I'll leave it there. Might be running somewhere soon on the main line of some of the cars in that consist. But like I said, I'll leave it alone. :)

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:55:56 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 01:53:17 2014.

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Note to self: Car 56(?)

-Stef

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:58:04 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 4 01:55:45 2014.

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I know where to swing by if I get time, time for vacation from that metal box that I work out of...

-Stef

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 02:10:09 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:55:56 2014.

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A transfer of the Pump Car's another possibility (if the work on that's now finished). Didn't think of that one myself.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by BEDT26 on Sat Jan 4 02:14:15 2014, in response to R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 00:37:48 2014.

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Isn't it a beauty? That's my favorite paint scheme on those cars.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 4 02:16:29 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:58:04 2014.

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Heh. Like I said, won't peep, but I think I know what they're up to. I'll wait for someone to make it "official" ... :)

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jan 4 11:57:23 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by BEDT26 on Sat Jan 4 02:14:15 2014.

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That paint scheme indeed looked good on postwar R equiptment;

However, looked absolutely hideous on the R-9s

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jan 4 13:24:31 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jan 4 11:57:23 2014.

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That blue stripe is a lighter shade of the one used back in the 70s.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jan 4 14:50:06 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jan 4 13:24:31 2014.

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Could it just be faded? I seem to recall the TOMC blue stripes being very faded a few years ago, but they seem to have repainted it for the all star game event... perhaps Mr. Sun has started on them again?

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Jan 4 17:59:19 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Stef on Sat Jan 4 01:29:23 2014.

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That single car at 207 is gone. Also in NJ 9400 and 9401 are on their sides now getting copper goodies chopped off and they recycled all the R27/R30 scrap plus all the NJT RTS shells including the shorties. Made enough room for another contract now.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by BEDT26 on Sat Jan 4 18:04:58 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jan 4 11:57:23 2014.

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I totally agree.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 21:52:44 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by BEDT26 on Sat Jan 4 02:14:15 2014.

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It is. They did the same with R16 6305 at Coney Island Yard recently. They did an amazing job with this one. Photo by John Barns, taken December 10th.


I suspect they harvested the tail lights from one of the R30 school cars that got scrapped.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by BEDT26 on Sat Jan 4 22:56:41 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 21:52:44 2014.

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She's looking good, thanks for sharing.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by chud1 on Sun Jan 5 03:54:10 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 21:52:44 2014.

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at least they could have cleaned up da number plate better.
chud1.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jan 5 08:40:44 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by chud1 on Sun Jan 5 03:54:10 2014.

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Never satisfied huh?

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by BEDT26 on Sun Jan 5 10:38:42 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by chud1 on Sun Jan 5 03:54:10 2014.

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True that!

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by chud1 on Sun Jan 5 13:35:24 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jan 5 08:40:44 2014.

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if they are going to a job right, than do it right.
chud1.
:)....

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by BEDT26 on Sun Jan 5 14:33:26 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by chud1 on Sun Jan 5 13:35:24 2014.

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Amen!

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Ray Jules on Sun Jan 5 16:32:36 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by chud1 on Sun Jan 5 13:35:24 2014.

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I'm sure in due time the number plates will be cosmetically restored. Remember that the people who work on these cars are volunteers. The best thing you could do would be to volunteer yourself.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sun Jan 5 17:04:48 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 21:52:44 2014.

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Replacing number boards are expensive. Take this for example: with the restoration efforts that are going on with R28 cars 7926-7927 at the Illinois Railway Museum, they're giving the cars new number plates (whick look exactly like the originals). But they cost a lot of money; until recently, IRM was selling extra replacement number boards for $250 a pop. They went to a supplier (the same one NYCT brough from) and they had to pay a good deal for them.

So, say they brought new boards for 6305 at that price of $250. That's four boards per car - $1000 total, easy. (Side note: when they get to restoration of the Concourse Redbirds, they'll have to spend thousands just on replacing some of their number boards also...thats if they end up making their own somehow). This doesn't include the paint that had to be brought. And 6305 was painted by workers who volunteered on their own time and didn't get paid to do this. Personally I kind of like the look on the number boards the car currently has. Gives it a retro look towards the rest of the car.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Stef on Sun Jan 5 17:19:53 2014, in response to R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 00:37:48 2014.

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Must be an old pic, was told by someone nothing's been picked up or dropped off over the last several days. 9010 and 11 are still sleeping on Track 11 at 207th St.

-Stef

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sun Jan 5 17:46:01 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Stef on Sun Jan 5 17:19:53 2014.

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That's pretty interesting. Photo in question was dated January 2nd. I suppose it's an old photo after all, then.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by BEDT26 on Sun Jan 5 18:07:39 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sun Jan 5 17:46:01 2014.

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Don't worry about it. It's probably the date it was uploaded.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jan 5 18:12:36 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sat Jan 4 21:52:44 2014.

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Notice there's a padlock on the Storm door, must be a recent thing with them putting those padlocks on subway cars that don't run anywhere on a regular basis.

I'm just happy it still has the old rollsigns in the car.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jan 5 18:15:10 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Ray Jules on Sat Jan 4 01:13:31 2014.

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Yep. Its helpful for those cars as I heard its not good for them to sit idle for months/years at a time, using the Museum cars on random work moves gives the car's a decent workout.

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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by chud1 on Sun Jan 5 18:30:12 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by Ray Jules on Sun Jan 5 16:32:36 2014.

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i would love to volunteer but i have arthris in my legs, hands and spine, so no heavy lifting on doctors orders.
chud1.


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Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jan 5 18:48:48 2014, in response to Re: R33ML TOMC on the Move Again?, posted by chud1 on Sun Jan 5 18:30:12 2014.

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I hear you, I have two bum arthritic knees and a leaky heart valve. So I can't help anybody.

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