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Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 19 15:15:20 2013, in response to A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Nov 19 12:44:33 2013. Thanks, but it's unnecessarily confusing to start from 00 instead of from 01. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Nov 19 15:20:57 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 19 15:15:20 2013. But it is 1000% easier for the computers.ROAR |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 19 15:56:45 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Nov 19 15:20:57 2013. Heh. Saved me some typing. :) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 20 09:19:37 2013, in response to A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Nov 19 12:44:33 2013. I have never been on an R142 and R143. Why did they change the system from the previous one that could be programmed to any line of the train was rerouted? That seems to be more flexible. Also, it showed transfers and handicapped stations? Did tests show commuters didn't like it or did the MTA feel it was too much work to keep updating info. I bet the latter is the reason. If commuters didn't like it, it would have shown up in the pre-tests. I wonder why I haven't heard about the before. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Nov 20 09:29:08 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 20 09:19:37 2013. ......... |
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Posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Nov 20 09:38:42 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 20 09:19:37 2013. YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 09:49:14 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 20 09:19:37 2013. SMH…The R142 and R143 entered service in 2000 and 2001, respectively, and have been serving Brooklyn since the beginning (on the 2 and L lines initially, and later on the 4 and 5). The R160s were the first cars to include the FINDs, and they were introduced at an open house in late 2005.  They first entered service in August 2006. |
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Posted by BMRR on Wed Nov 20 14:14:48 2013, in response to A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Nov 19 12:44:33 2013. Total waste of money.. look out the window...pay attention to where you are! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 16:56:36 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BMRR on Wed Nov 20 14:14:48 2013. But how will you know if your train is stopping at a certain station, and you rely on visual stimuli to generate the appropriate response? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 17:04:45 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 19 15:15:20 2013. Sorry. I should have added an XKCD-like disclaimer to the first post.WARNING: The blog post linked to in the first post follows basic computer science conventions (which may be unsuitable for the computer-illiterate). |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Nov 20 18:21:34 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 17:04:45 2013. I've been programming / scripting for so long that I didn't even consider your starting at 0 to be a strange thing... as intro computer science courses are becoming more required in high schools and colleges I would suspect that the concept is not as alien as it once was... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 20:28:50 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 17:04:45 2013. But you're not writing for computers, you're writing for humans for whom zero is strange and mysterious.P.S: I'm one of those people who considers 2000 to be part of the 20th Century. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 20:47:50 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BMRR on Wed Nov 20 14:14:48 2013. What if the train is so crowded it's hard to see out the window or open door? What if you can't see the station signs? Most people can't tell stations apart by their tile color. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 20:52:01 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 20 09:19:37 2013. !!! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 21:06:55 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 19 15:15:20 2013. Sorry. I should have added an XKCD-like disclaimer to the first post.WARNING: The blog post linked to in the first post follows basic computer science conventions (which may be unsuitable for the computer-illiterate). |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Nov 20 21:16:32 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 20:28:50 2013. Actually, the audience is irrelevant. The manufacturer designated them starting at 00, and so that is what it is. The discussion is on a technical level, and calling the first light 01 would be confusing to anyone who had even a basic familiarity with the unit. If the manufacturer called the first light "Steve" then that is what it would be called. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Nov 20 21:20:40 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 20 09:19:37 2013. You worked for Operations Planning??? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 21:21:02 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 20:28:50 2013. Books about programming languages are written for humans, but they when they talk about arrays, they usually say that the first element of an array is 0.And the lights on the strip map can be considered an array of 64 elements. Given a = new int[64]; (and a language in which the syntax used is valid), a.length(); returns 64, but a[64]=0; throws an "index out of bounds" error. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 20 21:23:23 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Nov 20 21:16:32 2013. Especially since 00 is a legitimate (and necessary) binary result of the logic output driving the LED's. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 21:29:17 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 20 21:23:23 2013. But then they should be numbered 00 to 3F or 00000000 to 00111111. :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 20 21:29:37 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 21:21:02 2013. And well it should!"new int" ... lol. You young whippersnappers and your friends and unions and desctructors. Why back in MY day, we simply did an #include of a header file and had the balls to just declare int=0; and LIKED it. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 21:29:46 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 20 21:23:23 2013. But then they should be numbered 00 to 3F or 00000000 to 00111111. :-) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 21:30:41 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 21:21:02 2013. I'll take your word for it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 20 21:35:51 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 21:29:17 2013. Interchangable to a chip, mon frere! BCD or Hex is taken from the output lines as desired based on the chip pins themselves. And yeah, I'd prefer to see Hex ... lets you make the legends larger on the PC Board. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 20 21:40:24 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 21:29:46 2013. Schematic for those following along at home ... :)
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 21:54:32 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 20 21:06:55 2013. Sorry about the delayed double-post. I wasn't sure whether Chrome was loading the page from its cache or the live Web. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 22:01:46 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 21:29:17 2013. In case any of those numbers are wrong: I figured them out in my head without a calculator. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 20 22:13:22 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 22:01:46 2013. I've gotten spoiled. All of my IDE's for coding show BIN, DEC and HEX next to each other for any value given, so I'd be lost without it now. Ah, if only we had 255 fingers. :) |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Nov 21 11:13:14 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 20 21:40:24 2013. LOL! |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Nov 21 14:49:46 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 20 21:40:24 2013. Clear as mud!--Mark |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 21 16:50:24 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Nov 21 14:49:46 2013. More concise than many, and all on one page too! :) |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Nov 22 07:22:40 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 20 09:19:37 2013. That explains a lot... |
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Posted by BMRR on Fri Nov 22 08:56:39 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 20 20:47:50 2013. I grew up on the R9s, the "Q"s, etc. How did I survive with out beingbombarded with information, and having my hand held. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 22 13:54:29 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 20 09:19:37 2013. Sorry, I got the numbers mixed up. I shoud have said I've never been on an R 160. I don't ride the L train because I have no need to. Now does anyone care to answer the question? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 22 13:59:06 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BMRR on Wed Nov 20 14:14:48 2013. The maps are for tourists and occasional riders. If you take the same route everyday, of course you don't need a map. Sometimes I get annoyed with some of you because you act as if everyone is or should be a rail fan and have no respect for anyone else. The majority of riders don't even like trains. They take them out of necessity. I guess the only people in this world that matter to you who who think like this are rail fans. Very short sighted, selfish, and inconsiderate. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 22 14:16:43 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 22 13:54:29 2013. Well, the R160s have this nifty little gadget instead of the strip maps. As for what it does, you basically answered your own question. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 22 14:37:55 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 22 14:16:43 2013. Sorry again. I had the car classes confused and misread the article. I thought they returned to the older maps in the newer cars. That was the problem. I really don't see the purpose of all the work the person went through to post that blog. |
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Posted by snarf368 on Fri Nov 22 15:47:06 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 22 13:59:06 2013. BrooklynBus said "The maps are for tourists and occasional riders. If you take the same route everyday, of course you don't need a map. Sometimes I get annoyed with some of you because you act as if everyone is or should be a rail fan and have no respect for anyone else. The majority of riders don't even like trains. They take them out of necessity. I guess the only people in this world that matter to you who who think like this are rail fans. Very short sighted, selfish, and inconsiderate. "+1 Well said and I'm glad you have the balls to say it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 22 21:29:57 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 22 14:37:55 2013. I really don't see the purpose of all the work you went through to post your blog. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 22 21:35:21 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BMRR on Fri Nov 22 08:56:39 2013. Good for you. Luckily, the dark ages are over. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 22 23:31:23 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 20 21:40:24 2013. Ohm my God. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 22 23:41:57 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 22 23:31:23 2013. Show that one to your engineers. They might not have seen it before. Heh. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 22 23:45:24 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 22 23:41:57 2013. Already saved it...LOL...first thing in the morning, the e-mail goes out. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 23 00:07:02 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 22 23:45:24 2013. Tell them if they substitute beer for the holy water, then they can go from LTE straight up to Galaxy four, all transponders. :) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Nov 23 10:42:26 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 22 21:29:57 2013. I wasn't criticizing the blog. I just don't see what that page supposed to accomplish.As far as my blog, it educates and accomplishes something and I get many compliments for it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 23 14:00:32 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 22 13:54:29 2013. It sounds like you still have the numbers mixed up. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 23 14:01:38 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Nov 23 10:42:26 2013. I'm sure he had fun preparing it. I'm sure you have fun doing yours. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Nov 23 17:04:00 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 22 14:37:55 2013. Some people find it interesting. Isn't that purpose enough? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 23 17:06:41 2013, in response to Re: A Deeper Look at the Strip Maps on New Tech Trains, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Nov 23 17:04:00 2013. Exactly. I found it interesting. Despite my objection to the use of CS conventions. |
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