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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013 It's on the (7) today, in passenger service, running only to Queensboro Plaza because of the G/O. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:23 2013, in response to R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013. 7811-7821. |
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Posted by Stef on Sat Nov 9 13:58:02 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:23 2013. That's good to hear Mr. G1! Talk about quick, 7811-15 were still at East 180th St, as of last week.On a related note, it has been reported that additional R-62A's have arrived on the 6. -Stef |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Nov 9 15:27:52 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:23 2013. G1: It looks like we have a new entry for "The Book of First Runs" with yourself duly noted as the source. Thank you for that information. I imagine a trip of the No. 7 Line is in order for next week.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Nov 9 15:40:46 2013, in response to R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013. Wonder if it will be there tomorrow??? Sounds like a camera hunt is in order!!! :-) |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 9 16:19:04 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Nov 9 15:27:52 2013. Time to get in your last RFW views on the cars on the Flushing Line that still have them. |
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Posted by The Orion Kid on Sat Nov 9 16:40:51 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Nov 9 15:40:46 2013. Apparently going OOS at 8 tonight. No word about whether or not it'll be back out tomorrow, 30 day test doesn't have to mean 30 consecutive days. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Nov 9 16:42:54 2013, in response to R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013. And thus the beginning of the end of the the brief but glorious era of easily being able to identify express versus local. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 20:50:17 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Nov 9 15:27:52 2013. That is true!! |
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Posted by sloth on Sat Nov 9 21:56:33 2013, in response to R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013. Interesting. I rode it without even realizing what it was... it's very similar looking to the 142s, I guess. I caught it leaving Queensboro around 3:20 or so. It was jam packed and there were two trains bunched up behind it. |
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Posted by snarf368 on Sun Nov 10 07:18:09 2013, in response to R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013. Is there a process by which crew gets picked to operate it? Seniority? Ones that have been trained? |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Nov 10 15:54:18 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by The Orion Kid on Sat Nov 9 16:40:51 2013. It was out there today (11/10) at around 10:30am *hearing* the R-188 from street level as it was leaving 74th Street-Broadway going to Main Street. I had first seen the R-188 train at 5:27pm yesterday (11/9) at the 90th Street-Elmhurst Avenue station as it was going to Queensboro Plaza.-William A. Padron ["Q.P."] |
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Posted by 7 Local on Sun Nov 10 21:47:12 2013, in response to R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013. 7820 already got hit by a vandal. Tagged Priority Mail sticker was stuck onto a door window. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Nov 10 21:50:30 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by 7 Local on Sun Nov 10 21:47:12 2013. Wait till Tuesday when school re-opens! |
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Posted by gbs on Sun Nov 10 22:55:51 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Nov 9 16:42:54 2013. Ironically, we now have to look for opposite express/local clues as the train enters the station. On the R62As, there is no indication on the large front sign, since the operators were told to leave the circle at all times, and we have to look at the side signs for the constant (green) circle or (red) diamond.But on the R188s, the only constant express/local sign is on the front, with either the (red) circle or (red) diamond. The side signs alternate their displays, so the EXP/LCL isn't always there to see. Interestingly, the interior strip maps show a new express/local distinction, with bulbs being in places I don't recall seeing on the other lines' strip maps, but those can't help you decide whether to board as the train enters the station. |
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Posted by gbs on Sun Nov 10 23:02:19 2013, in response to R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013. Can we expect to see additional R188 #7 trains arriving on a regular basis now? Is there a timetable by which they'll all be here and the #7 will be 100% R188? |
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Posted by CurAke79 on Sun Nov 10 23:16:22 2013, in response to R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013. I have a quick question. The original announcer on the NTT 7 line. What is her name? I can't find the post of her name |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Sun Nov 10 23:25:57 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by gbs on Sun Nov 10 22:55:51 2013. With modern LED technology, what if all express trains are lit on the interior are tinted red and locals on the interior are tinted green? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Nov 10 23:38:57 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by gbs on Sun Nov 10 22:55:51 2013. The strip maps are capable of showing routes with up to 64 stops.I found an R142A car with a missing strip map back in 2007, and took some pics.     |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 11 00:39:50 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by Ray Jules on Sun Nov 10 23:25:57 2013. They could have the destination sign (as in the reading for the destination) be LED red or green depending on express or local - both are easy to read. So if you see a red "Main st Flushing" it is express and green is local. |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Mon Nov 11 01:14:22 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 11 00:39:50 2013. I like it, that should be done in parallel with interior lighting coloration. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 11 01:36:56 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by Ray Jules on Sun Nov 10 23:25:57 2013. If the MTA used modern LED technology the right way like CTA, both end and side route signs would be in the proper color for the line including a circle or diamond for the side route signs as well. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 11 01:48:31 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by gbs on Sun Nov 10 22:55:51 2013. Maybe they could program the exterior signs to have an E or L (or EXP or LCL) in the first three positions on all the readings as it cycles through. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 11 01:52:49 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 11 01:36:56 2013. It seems as though the 44/46 experience made them institutionally afraid of anything more complicated than switches and light bulbs. :( |
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Posted by gbs on Mon Nov 11 03:25:01 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 11 01:48:31 2013. There's probably enough room for an "EXP" or "LCL" to remain on the left side of the display throughout.They could also make the 7 smaller and include an EXP or LCL under the smaller 7. Some of the current R62A side scrolls already have this. The important thing is that as the train is entering the station the passengers along the platform can decide whether to board or not, and step either forward or back as appropriate to speed boarding and reduce dwell time. If they don't know until the train stops and then have to wait for the announcement or look at an interior sign, everything slows down. |
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Posted by MTA T on Mon Nov 11 06:51:36 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by gbs on Mon Nov 11 03:25:01 2013. I think they got rid of those LED "EXP" and "LCL" signages on the R62As, but that sounds like a good idea. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 11 08:35:14 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by gbs on Mon Nov 11 03:25:01 2013. Well, the only time that decision needs to be made is during the PM rush hour, as during the AM rush, the express trains are obvious.The side signs are capable of showing strings of text 20 characters long, so strings like these are could be displayed: EXPRESS MAIN STREET LOCAL MAIN STREET LOCAL 111 STREET LOCAL METS-WILETS PT |
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Posted by merrick1 on Mon Nov 11 08:39:50 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 11 08:35:14 2013. And the only place a quick decision needs to be made is a Queensborough Plaza. If you get on anywhere else you can change at the next station. |
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Posted by lance52 on Mon Nov 11 08:58:18 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by CurAke79 on Sun Nov 10 23:16:22 2013. Annie Bergen. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Nov 11 09:54:46 2013, in response to R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013. Will these trains be exclusive to the 7 line? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Nov 11 10:05:41 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Nov 11 09:54:46 2013. Yup... at least until all lines are CBTC.Well, in other words, yes. ROAR |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Nov 11 10:06:25 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Nov 11 10:05:41 2013. Thank you. meow |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Nov 11 11:02:07 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Nov 11 10:05:41 2013. No, the L has been CBTC for some time now. The 7 is just beginning CBTC |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Nov 11 12:06:27 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Nov 10 15:54:18 2013. Follow-up...I rode the R-188 #7 train [n/#7821>#7811] for the first time yesterday (11/10) as the 5:18pm leaving Queensboro Plaza for Main Street-Flushing, but I left the train at 90th Street-Elmhurst Avenue as it arrived there at 5:35pm. Not much a ride I can say, a bit slow most of the time during that run. -William A. Padron ["90 ST"] |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 11 12:54:50 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by merrick1 on Mon Nov 11 08:39:50 2013. Not really... at Grand Central or 5th ave you may hear a train enter, peek down, and if it's not the one you want continue down the stairs at a leisurely pace. Otherwise you're running for a train you don't want. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 11 14:54:07 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Nov 11 11:02:07 2013. Well, the L uses wider cars. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 11 15:08:23 2013, in response to R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 9 13:48:09 2013. So I rode the train from Times Square to 46th Street today. Here are my thoughts:Nice ride, they handle the jog in the Steinway tunnel well enough. As I thought, the Local and Express strip map lights are part of the Row of 64. Charlie seems to be speaking the transfer letters quicker than he does on the other IRT lines. Charlie says G! As for Rawson, Lowery, and Bliss, they appear on the displays, but not in the announcements. Here are some photos.      |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 11 16:01:21 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 11 01:52:49 2013. I doubt it since the MTA has accepted new technology on its latest equipment. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Nov 11 16:38:36 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 9 16:19:04 2013. Speaking of which, what are the hours for express service? |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Nov 11 16:40:43 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 11 15:08:23 2013. A+ on these pictures.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by grand concourse on Mon Nov 11 17:02:15 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 11 12:54:50 2013. Well I would imagine he's talking about if a person was getting off an N/Q train across the platform. Sure the 7 service is frequent, but if the train is there, they are probably going to rush for it. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 11 17:18:53 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by grand concourse on Mon Nov 11 17:02:15 2013. That logic applies to any subway train, really. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 11 19:14:22 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by CurAke79 on Sun Nov 10 23:16:22 2013. The announcements are a mix of Kathleen Campion, Catherine Cowdery, and Annie Bergen's original station names (with the exception of Mets - Willets Point, which is Catherine). A few Charlie airport bus transfers are thrown in for good measure. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 11 19:16:16 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 11 15:08:23 2013. Which transfers did Charlie make? The Grand Central transfers should have been the original Bergen ones, since nothing changed there. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 11 20:03:46 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 11 19:16:16 2013. 5th Avenue, Grand Central, Court Square, and Queensboro Plaza. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 11 22:07:28 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 11 16:01:21 2013. To a degree ... but red and green LED's were perfected in the late 70's, LCD's in the late 80's and still we can't produce secondary colors on the signage? I mean really ... Chicago kicking our asses for displays? That's sad. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 11 22:22:09 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 11 19:14:22 2013. Which has come off sounding at times like the terminal sidewalk PA scene in the movie "Airplane" ... :) |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Nov 11 22:23:32 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Nov 10 23:38:57 2013. Now that was educational! |
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Posted by gbs on Mon Nov 11 22:52:27 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 11 08:35:14 2013. Those would be perfect displays, since they would never scroll and the express or local designation would always be displayed. But the TA seems to want "Flushing" to appear (in both directions(!) as the name of the line, not necessarily the destination), requiring a scrolling display with the express or local disappearing every other display. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 12 08:30:21 2013, in response to Re: R-188 now in service, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 11 20:03:46 2013. Well that's disappointing. Until we have a chance to hear the late-night transfers, it would seem that all of the original Annie transfers have been lost. |
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