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Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 25 14:54:33 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 14:41:23 2013. Fridge cars for the win!Pacific Fruit Express, Juice train, BEER train, and numerous others roll along and take their time and it arrives just fine. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 14:59:07 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 25 14:54:33 2013. Sure. I shouldn't have implied all fresh food. And we both agree, for the vast majority of stuff a day or two extra crossing the country (less for shorter hauls) doesn't matter. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 25 15:05:05 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 14:59:07 2013. And not to worry, wasn't being critical there. Trucking costs money as compared to rail, some stuff is critical, some stuff is an awful lot, or too heavy for a truck. There's a lot of food on those intermodals with fridges running on those. Intermodals get the high ball all the way through. I figured some folks weren't aware of that stuff. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 25 15:24:23 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 25 14:23:45 2013. . . . which underlines the "liberals hate rail/love trucks" point. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 25 15:41:01 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 25 15:24:23 2013. When you do business, you go with whatever works the best. That isn't librulism, that's keep your job. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Aug 25 17:10:32 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 23 18:18:15 2013. Japan still does it (and while having better OTP than our passenger-only commuter lines...).
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 25 17:42:52 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 25 07:12:32 2013. When Olog says "liberal," he means "conservative" and when he says "conservative" he means "European feudalist."Otherwise, he's perfectly alright. |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 25 18:08:26 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 25 06:13:43 2013. There were overlapping gauntlet (gantlet?) tracks many years before that, probably for better weight distribution on the bridge girders. If you look carefully at the first photo you can see where the gauntlet began. The photo was taken near the end of the bridge where the bridge was much lower and the girders were stronger. |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 25 18:17:43 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 25 14:26:21 2013. Maybrook yard. There's a truck terminal there now. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 25 18:43:13 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 25 18:17:43 2013. THAT'S the name I was thinking of ... thanks! :) |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 20:49:01 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 25 14:26:21 2013. East Chatham is on the main line from Albany and Selkirk to Springfield. Albany-Boston Amtrak goes through there. But even so it could handle a lot more trains. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 25 20:57:16 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 20:49:01 2013. Yep ... and the property for a second track, if ever needed, is still graded for a pair. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 25 22:27:26 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 25 06:08:39 2013. Like I said, when the same company runs both, there's potentially less conflict, because what management says, goes. Once you have tracks that are owned by exclusively passenger or exclusively freight operators, their priorities are going to be on what their business is, not the other guys'. And to top it off, a lot of railroads DIDN'T survive, at least not as passenger carriers. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 25 22:30:13 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 25 06:08:39 2013. Oh, there's also the point where the owner/operators are created and subsidized by the govt., and the passengers are ticket holders, taxpayers, AND voters... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 25 22:32:07 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 25 22:30:13 2013. ... and their freight travels along WITH them. :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 25 22:35:27 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 25 13:51:02 2013. Back to that quote about reality having a well-known liberal bias. :-S |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 26 00:05:13 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 25 22:35:27 2013. Welllll ... libruls are heavy, I can see enough of them taking out a bridge. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 26 11:36:45 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 25 22:27:26 2013. And to top it off, a lot of railroads DIDN'T survive, at least not as passenger carriers. . . thanks to overregulation and overtaxation of the railroad industry, and competition from the government in terms of building competing modes. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 26 11:37:46 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 25 22:30:13 2013. That's a modern-day problem, not one from the past. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 26 23:27:57 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 26 11:37:46 2013. But it's one more thing that has to be considered now when freight and passenger services are mixed. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Aug 27 21:50:46 2013, in response to Re: Future rail line on the new Tappan Zee Bridge is a dud?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 25 15:24:23 2013. Not ""liberals hate rail/love trucks. Only stupid Republicans believe ""liberals hate rail/love trucks". Again you prove you are totally stupid. Don't go away crying, just go away!!! |
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