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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 16:06:27 2013 R-160 and a Rookie T/O (I'm told). Heads reportedly rolling as we speak. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 16:08:04 2013, in response to Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 16:06:27 2013. Hopefully it isn't the one who showed up drunk |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 16:09:20 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 16:08:04 2013. Most likely not. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Aug 22 16:10:40 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 16:08:04 2013. Let's dispell this right now. These are unrelated incidents that happened days apart. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Aug 22 16:15:45 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 16:08:04 2013. There is a new program where the newbies will be working in the yards for 3 months before they hit the road. Apparently he was one of them.With all these 4 and 5 car units there are very few yard jobs today. Not many senior guys around to mentor them and give them "pointers." |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 16:27:54 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Aug 22 16:15:45 2013. The senior guys are the worst guys to have around new T/O's. They're often angry, bitter, arrogant, and impatient. They want to get the moves done ASAP so they can get back to the crew room to watch bootleg movies or play crosswords.Whoever decided to put new T/O's in the yard for 3 months should be fired. Yeah yeah, I know that when you started you worked the yard for about a year. The yard is the most dangerous place to be. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Aug 22 16:35:12 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 16:27:54 2013. I would imagine that if a T/O can survive in the yard he/she can survive anywhere. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Aug 22 16:35:35 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 16:27:54 2013. I would imagine that if a T/O can survive in the yard he/she can survive anywhere. |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Aug 22 17:00:44 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by randyo on Thu Aug 22 16:35:12 2013. it's up to New York... |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Aug 22 21:55:28 2013, in response to Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 16:06:27 2013. How bad was it?-w- |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 22:40:45 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Aug 22 21:55:28 2013. that's what I was wondering. if any trains were blocked in, causing trains to be stuck in the yard.what a mess. a derailment. drunk T/O. too many people in trouble. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 22:56:08 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Aug 22 16:10:40 2013. Pretty clear though that they lost too many school car TSSs to retirement in a short time. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 22 23:11:26 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 22:40:45 2013. Sounds like back around my time ... too many retirements, teeyay gets desperate and moves people up front who shouldn't be there without more time in. I was one of those myself and leaped at the opportunity to jump into motors with only a few months on the job.Train Dude aside, I realized pretty quickly that I was over my head and really didn't like it after a few months. The only thing my class had going for it is that we had REALLY great motor instructors. Many in my class made it to retirement. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 23:20:47 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 22 23:11:26 2013. I'd be in my sixth year as a T/D now if I had stayed. Well, if I could have passed T/D school that is.I was on the List and they called me to Brooklyn for the piss test at 7:30 am. But I was working the M that week from 5p-2a which is rough, so when would I sleep? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 23:22:01 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 22:56:08 2013. People talked about Mene like he was a God.TSS Tyrone Willams is a great instructor. He should run the entire school car. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 22 23:40:35 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 23:20:47 2013. See? Now THAT is exactly the reason why I would never consider ever going back there now. Back in my time, you could swap your job with somebody else and as long as SOMEBODY signed in for the run, the dispatcher didn't give a shit as long as the job was covered. :(Now? LOL, not. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 22 23:41:31 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 23:22:01 2013. I've heard from some recents that Alex is holding down that fort pretty well too. Even writes up pretty manuals. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 23:45:25 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 22 23:40:35 2013. I'd bitch about any AM assignment. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 23:46:14 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 23:22:01 2013. Well at least back then most guys coming out of school car knew the difference between a brake valve and a float valve. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 22 23:47:22 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 23:45:25 2013. I pulled the darkest of Oh-dark-hundred when I was there. That truly sucked, but then I begged for it just to get off the extra extra. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 22 23:48:05 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 23:46:14 2013. I knew I could count on you being a total shithead. Are you even capable of any higher mental function? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 23:49:14 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 23:22:01 2013. The problem isnt schoolcar the problem is with those who cant grasp the information.. Now somebody like Railman grasped it and now is a damn good TO .. Im trying to see if he can move up the RTO Ladder.. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 23:50:59 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 23:49:14 2013. I've been trying to convince Railman to take the TSS exam for a while now |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 23 02:01:44 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 23:20:47 2013. In my time, if you had that late a clear, you would either be relieved early or had the piss test postponed to a later time due to insufficient rest. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 23 02:20:59 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by randyo on Fri Aug 23 02:01:44 2013. insufficient rest does not count here. you're taking the piss test on your own time. TA sets the time at 730am. so if you're sick time is good just take piss test and book off sick. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 23 09:53:44 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 23 02:20:59 2013. One thing about the old teeyay ... we didn't have folks like Train Dude in charge back then. Folks actually watched out for one another. And so did the teeyay wigs for the most part. If you needed to get something done, they'd try to make it happen for you. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 23 10:56:02 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 16:27:54 2013. Where else are you going to put them? On the road? They screw up there, they cause far more trouble.I'd also wait until the investigation is complete before railing this noob (no pun intended). Maybe the track was shit. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 23 10:58:26 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 23:49:14 2013. schoolcar can be part of the problem. bad TSS can ruin it.does Railman718 still post here? I don't think he wants to leave T/O. I'll tell you who will move up. clearaspect. G1Ravage too. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Aug 23 10:58:36 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 23 10:56:02 2013. Maybe it had a flat tire |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri Aug 23 10:59:05 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 23 10:56:02 2013. Anybody know car numbers and damage report ? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 23 11:00:38 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 23:49:14 2013. How long before these jobs require college credits? Would that even make the potential pool of new T/O's any better? |
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Posted by monorail on Fri Aug 23 11:07:18 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 23 10:56:02 2013. 'Maybe the track was shit. 'it was, after the t/o backed the train up and split the switch |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 23 11:09:29 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 23 10:56:02 2013. I never once screwed up on the road. Most people don't. It's so much easier than the yard.The road is easy going station to station. The yard has way too many problems. You're dealing with bad equipment, and different personality types. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 23 11:24:59 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by monorail on Fri Aug 23 11:07:18 2013. 
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 23 11:31:10 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by monorail on Fri Aug 23 11:07:18 2013. why did he do that?did he move back too far on a cut? |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Aug 23 11:54:28 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 16:27:54 2013. I got 5 months in the yard. I think it did make a difference. The senior men that broke me in are not the types working today. Nobody cares about the job anymore. I broke in dozens. Only one OTS guy was fired, nothing I could have seen. There is no pay incentive to take TSS considering hourlies get same benefits, and now as much discipline. In the old days motor instructors got respect they earned from uppers levels. Not anymore. Mught as well be in the cab unless they are running away from trouble |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Aug 23 12:02:34 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 23 11:31:10 2013. 
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Posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 23 12:49:33 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 23 11:00:38 2013. You dont need college credits to work the railroad, you need common sense, they got people in college who havent gotta clue about running a railroad. |
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Posted by monorail on Fri Aug 23 13:20:52 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 23 11:31:10 2013. 'why did he do that?'when you find him, ask him-i was no where near him.... 'did he move back too far on a cut?' u can ask him that too |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 23 13:36:41 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 23 10:58:26 2013. I like to see anyone with a head on their shoulder move up if that's what they want to do. I mention Railman because I've seen him on the road and he's all business. A person who takes the job seriously and understands how it works should move up. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 23 13:37:40 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Aug 23 10:58:36 2013. You likely know better than I but from what I heard, the T/O split the switch and then committed the ultimate sin. |
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Posted by monorail on Fri Aug 23 13:50:47 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 23 13:36:41 2013. 'I like to see anyone with a head on their shoulder'so would I, all the people I've seen, had a head on their necks..... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 23 14:15:13 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by Avid Reader on Fri Aug 23 12:02:34 2013. it happens. a guy once moved back about a car length or so to keep a clear path in front of the barn. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 23 14:18:10 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Aug 23 11:54:28 2013. They also got it from us below because they cared about how well we did and had patience. They were more concerned with us doing it right than writing us up. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 23 14:33:25 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by monorail on Fri Aug 23 13:50:47 2013. "so would I,"Here you go. I just made your day for you - maybe even longer.     |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri Aug 23 15:27:15 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by monorail on Fri Aug 23 13:50:47 2013. What are these idiotic responses ? Why is it so difficult to just stick to the topics ? Why must personal attacks be made ? This is suppose to be a place to discuss transit news and notes. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Aug 23 17:09:54 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 23 10:58:26 2013. I move up Monday. Turning in my handles.Goodbye TWU Local 100! |
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Posted by chud1 on Fri Aug 23 17:13:07 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by G1Ravage on Fri Aug 23 17:09:54 2013. good luck to u in ur new job.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 23 17:33:15 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by G1Ravage on Fri Aug 23 17:09:54 2013. T/S/S or T/D? |
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Posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 23 18:28:23 2013, in response to Re: Derailment In Coney Island Yd., posted by G1Ravage on Fri Aug 23 17:09:54 2013. Congratulations. I believe we worked together a while back, 4 and a half trips with a big late clear haha.... |
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