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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 14:34:49 2013 Due to some technical issues I was unable to post the first set of photos from my Southwest Chief trip. However while re-posting old photo sets on my Rail Adventure Blog I came across a set from 2008 in which I managed to have quite a bit of run riding around on all the various R's 32 through 42 before the NYCTA decided to ruin things with the R160. Seeing as how I didn't think the original post made the best use of the material I made some improvements and you can check it out again for the first time.Having many painful regrets about when the redbirds vanished, over the past year I have done my utmost to document the various railfan window enabled lines on the NYCS before they vanish forever able become useless. Here is one of my first major trips to the city I took in June 2008 when I still had someone to stay with living within city limits. My targets were such endangered species as the Brighton Beach Line, the South Ferry Loop and VALLEY interlocking. There's going to be a lot of pictures here so hold onto your hats. The Brighton Line pics as well as all of the other stuff I took on the NYCS, LIRR and Amtrak that weekend can be located at: http://acm.jhu.edu/~sthurmovik/Railpics/08-05-25_NYCS_VANISHING_RFW/-Thumbnails.html I'll post up some of the VALLEY interlocking pics in a later post. On the early morning Amtrak train to NYC I caught a freight train on the Trenton Line at SHORE interlocking with its      Once there I encountered an inbound Slant B in the below grade portion of the line.  Here are a few videos from the trip down the Brighton starting off with a B train passing through DeKalb interlocking eastbound from the Manny B. B at Kings Highway interlocking eastbound. The rad flags were for a GO closing the local track between here and Brighton Beach.      Coney bound R40M B trainset passing a local train of R68's on the Q.   Wonderful early summer foliage on the Brighton.          Ok, moving on there were lots of mixed R32/38 sets on the A, not the rust differential!            I actually stayed overnight in the city with a friend and the next morning caught an NJT local to Metropark to catch a ride from another friend. APL-46 #4610 was providing the power that day.  |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Jul 28 14:57:59 2013, in response to Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 14:34:49 2013. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars on pictures and video's.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jul 28 15:12:20 2013, in response to Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 14:34:49 2013. thanks, fun as usual.the R38 32 pic says it all about the demise of St Louis Car. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 28 16:14:50 2013, in response to Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 14:34:49 2013. nice rfw picsthanks for posting them |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Jul 28 16:23:09 2013, in response to Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 14:34:49 2013. On the early morning Amtrak train to NYC I caught a freight train onthe Trenton Line at SHORE interlocking That's Conrail's Delair Branch, not CSX' Trenton Line. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Jul 28 16:26:13 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by chuchubob on Sun Jul 28 16:23:09 2013. Great pix, BTW. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 16:31:36 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by chuchubob on Sun Jul 28 16:23:09 2013. I didn't say CSX Trenton Line, its Conrail Trenton Line. I don't acknowledge the post split Timeline. |
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Posted by joe c on Sun Jul 28 16:47:19 2013, in response to Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 14:34:49 2013. Great pics!i like that 32-38 shot.til next time |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 28 18:45:31 2013, in response to Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 14:34:49 2013. Nice pics. As for the "approach medium" N/O BBC, subway interlocking signals are nothing like class 1 RR signals which are primarily speed signals. NYCTA interlocking signals are route signals. The top portion indicates the condition of the road ahead and the bottom portion indicates the route to be taken: green for the main route and yellow for the diverging route. The signal N/O BBc indicates to proceed with caution on the main route (A3 Tk) into BBC station. In the case of a train immediately ahead both top and bottom show red. The IRT signals used to be closer to standard RR signals in the the top portion indicated the main route and the bottom portion indicated the diverging route. The last place on the IRT with the old style signals was, and may still be, the area around E 180 and the Dyre Line although since I haven't been up there in a while, those signals may by now have been replaced by the new signals. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Jul 28 18:57:31 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 16:31:36 2013. Gotcha. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 19:02:52 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 28 18:45:31 2013. I know, I just I refuse to allow the NYCTA to draw me into its stupid :-P |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 28 19:06:34 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 19:02:52 2013. I actually think that the NYCTA's signal system is quite logical and efficient especially since it was developed by the BMT orpossibly even the BRT before that. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 28 19:28:52 2013, in response to Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 14:34:49 2013. Tanks for the memories and a really nice set.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 23:17:09 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 28 19:06:34 2013. It's mostly fine, but G/Y is kind of a no no. The only time G should appear in the upper head is for a maximum speed straight ahead move. I just like making fun of it. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 29 03:45:15 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 23:17:09 2013. Actually, G/Y is not a problem since there are speed markers at switch locations that specify the speed to be taken over a switch. Absent any speed sign, the prescribed speed if a train is moving to either the right or left over a switch is 10 MPH. The reason that movement to the left or right is mentioned is that there are many curved "main routes" such as B1 tk S/O W 4 St and D2 tk N/O 9 Av on the West End. At 142 St Jct on the IRT Lenox Line, the main route is the curve to the right through the Harlem River tube and the diverging route is the physically straight route into 145 St. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jul 29 07:04:36 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 29 03:45:15 2013. Aside from the fact that the NYCS has effectively implemented faux version of automatic train control with timers and tripstops, G/Y can result in a wrong side failure if the yellow lamp were to burn out or be obscured. Yeah route knowledge and dark signal head procedures, but why set up an unsafe situation. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jul 29 10:44:46 2013, in response to Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 14:34:49 2013. Great shots, thank you.Kudos to the car cleaners who worked on that R Slant whose interior you photographed. Considering how old that car is, it looks damn good. I love the Brighton line. It looks like a toy system that I could build with my son's Thomas the Tank Engine wooden track set. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 29 15:37:02 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jul 29 07:04:36 2013. A burned out bulb on a class 1 RR would have a similar effect. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Jul 30 07:45:40 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 29 15:37:02 2013. Like I said the only time green is used on the top head is for Clear. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 30 19:47:17 2013, in response to Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jul 28 14:34:49 2013. To answer your question, that short tunnel fanatic is our own Sea Beach Fred, who doesn't post here much anymore. Btw tomorrow is his 43rd anniversary. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 31 19:10:31 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 30 19:47:17 2013. Check that: August 1 is his anniversary. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jul 31 19:15:56 2013, in response to Re: Retread PHOTOS: NYC Subway Vanishing Railfan Windows, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Jul 30 07:45:40 2013. And the only time green is used on "new" NYCTA signaling is for clear. |
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