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Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 21 17:54:12 2013, in response to Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 17:15:59 2013.

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Did they step up #1 train service during this outage ?

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Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 17:56:10 2013, in response to Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 21 17:54:12 2013.

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I haven't the foggiest.

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 21 17:59:59 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 17:51:00 2013.

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( My hunch is the best they can do is have limited westbound (GCT bound) service for the AM rush because nothing will be able to go back east. )

OK now, isn't to GCT east, and from it west for the Hudson/Harlem line ?

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 21 18:00:03 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 17:51:00 2013.

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( My hunch is the best they can do is have limited westbound (GCT bound) service for the AM rush because nothing will be able to go back east. )

OK now, isn't to GCT east, and from it west for the Hudson/Harlem line ?

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 18:03:03 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 21 17:59:59 2013.

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Picky, picky, picky...........whatever it is.

You should figure out my point: which is if only 1 track is available, naturally you need it in the peak passenger direction.

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 21 18:05:58 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 18:03:03 2013.

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of course

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 21 18:09:52 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 18:03:03 2013.

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Hudson Line trains generally only use a single track (the west-most track) for both outbound and inbound service between 138th St and 59th St as well.

So if there are switches in reasonable places (no idea if there are) they could manage limited outbound service in the morning rush. Anyway, they have to get the locomotives back to PGH or else they won't have any late morning service.



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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 21 18:15:27 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 21 18:09:52 2013.

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If they are to run limited number of trains, they should try to concentrate the M-3's there so they can run 10 cars trains.

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Train2104 on Sun Jul 21 19:37:26 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 21 18:15:27 2013.

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Normal service will run with 15 minute delays. Single track and late night busing for a week.

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Train2104 on Sun Jul 21 19:37:26 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 21 18:15:27 2013.

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Normal service will run with 15 minute delays. Single track and late night busing for a week.

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jul 21 19:43:42 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 21 18:00:03 2013.

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Hudson line and Harlem line are North/South
New Haven line is East/West

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 21 19:46:28 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jul 21 19:43:42 2013.

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Hudson line and Harlem line are North/South

Even when the Lake Shore Limited is running over the Hudson Line? :)

A good reason to use generally accepted terminology instead of railroad terminology in some cases.





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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jul 21 19:55:45 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 21 19:46:28 2013.

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yes Hudson line is North /south From NY to Schenectady.
from Schenectady to Buffalo(Chicago) its east/west

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Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 21 19:56:50 2013, in response to Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 17:15:59 2013.

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That's OK. Politicians always disregard "what a budget is and the budgetary process". In their lust to take over the railroads, we've ended up with fewer railroads than ever.

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 21 19:59:04 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 19 11:27:06 2013.

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So you pulling a Jersey Mike on us and implying that we need to go back to jointed rail to allay fears of "rail spread" due to metal expansion . . . ?

Amtrak runs at restricted speed during the hot weather on the NEC not due to the rails, but due to the variable-tension overhead wires.

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jul 21 20:54:35 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 17:49:53 2013.

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Years ago when MN bought the Beacon line,they could have re-habbed it & had it ready for just such emergencys & ran southbound Bomb trains from Poughkeepsie to CP Dyke & then down the Harlem line to GCT & give Dutchess Co patrons a one seat ride & a sense that they were getting the most bang for their buck.

Just a pipe dream. When Don Nelson insisted on buying the Beacon Line in the first place to fulfill a future need for Dutchess Co service to White Plains, it was pie in the sky optomism.
From CP 58 to CP Dyke is junk filled & washed out in many places. There was potential there for improved upper hudson traffic but the realistic future holds that the line is just another rail trail to come

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(Sunday photos) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Jul 21 20:58:46 2013, in response to MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by seabeachexpress on Thu Jul 18 21:25:26 2013.

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Re: (Sunday photos) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Jul 21 21:05:49 2013, in response to (Sunday photos) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Jul 21 20:58:46 2013.

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Mr Gold: Thank you for those excellent pictures. They answer a lot of questions.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: (Sunday photos) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Jul 21 22:55:15 2013, in response to (Sunday photos) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Jul 21 20:58:46 2013.

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Is there a worse place that could have happened - as far clearances for the repair equipment is concerned? The river on one side, the rock facing on the other...and on a curve.

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Re: (Sunday photos) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 21 23:03:53 2013, in response to Re: (Sunday photos) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Jul 21 22:55:15 2013.

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And a very popular spot, known as "the cut" for diving into the Harlem river. Good thing nobody was hanging out there when it went on the ground.

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 22 00:53:42 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jul 21 20:54:35 2013.

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I thought the connection between the Hudson and Harlem was still useable. Too bad, that fan trip I rode several years ago was one of the last then.

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Re: (Sunday photos) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 22 00:57:40 2013, in response to (Sunday photos) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Jul 21 20:58:46 2013.

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Judging from the second to the last photo, they've already laid down the wood ties with new rail, just have to put the third rail down and maybe some wiring. Thanks for posting the pics!

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 22 07:43:25 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jul 21 19:55:45 2013.

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In terms of odd & even train numbers, North is the same as West on the ex New York Central's case.

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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 22 07:44:20 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jul 21 20:54:35 2013.

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It would be like LIRR keeping Bethpage - Garden City open for emergencies.

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