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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 22 07:21:45 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 21 20:57:10 2013. Actually, being out in the open was just the result of the R-32s being put on the A line. The long run from Grant Av. to 207 St. was still to long in hot tunnels for the cars especially if they only got to run to Lefferts to "cool off". In reality, the goal was to put more cars with functioning Air Conditioning on the C and spread the "wealth". The reason the swap was made with Pitkin was because they are "sister" shops.The move with the R-32 to the J for the summer makes more sense so long as 207th St does not touch the maintenance on the r-160s except for cleaning. It shows that now, someone is at least serious about the issue of the ambient temps. that the R-32s can operate in. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 22 09:33:59 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 22 07:21:45 2013. Do the R-160 require different tools and such? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 22 09:34:51 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 00:02:18 2013. Deja vu all over again. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 19:57:35 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 21 20:26:26 2013. They have always done the A/C swap. Why did the J get into the act ?No R42's to spare for the A due to R160 SMS/CBTC/whatever ? |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Jun 22 20:41:45 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 19:57:35 2013. 'They have always done the A/C swap. 'which equipment got swapped in 1982? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 22 20:42:02 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 22 09:33:59 2013. Absolutely. Different gauges, different lubricants, different procedures, too. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 22 20:43:22 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 19:57:35 2013. The swap began in 2009 as I recall. It was not done formally before then. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jun 22 20:53:05 2013, in response to R32 J..., posted by MTA T on Wed Jun 19 10:22:12 2013. Are they going with center of train - R160, or offset R-42? This is the first time in a looong while they've actually had a choice...Personally I am hoping they are using the conductor cabs, they don't get much use on the C... |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jun 22 21:02:09 2013, in response to Re: R32 J - What conductor position are they using?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jun 22 20:53:05 2013. They're using the center of the train like on the R160s |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 21:20:06 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 22 20:43:22 2013. OK, so why not this year ?40 cars, assuming 5 trainstes get swapped, out of 222 does not get many of their HVAC units outside for fresh air. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 21:21:02 2013, in response to Re: R32 J - What conductor position are they using?, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jun 22 21:02:09 2013. Did the R42 ever have door controls in the motorman cabs ? |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Jun 22 21:42:42 2013, in response to Re: R32 J - What conductor position are they using?, posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 21:21:02 2013. no |
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Posted by VictorM on Sat Jun 22 22:35:25 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 19:57:35 2013. That's right. Since the C is only 8 cars long, but the A is the equivalent of 10 cars long, they had to borrow R42 cars from the J to make the A/C swap until this year. In past summers ENY could spare about 20 R42's to send to the A to supplement the R32's so that the C could be all R46's. They can't do that this summer because the R42's at ENY are needed to make up a shortage of 4-car R160 sets because of SMS. But it means 72% of C's will remain R32's this summer unless they increase the number of R32-R160 swaps with ENY. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jun 22 22:48:17 2013, in response to Re: R32 J - What conductor position are they using?, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jun 22 21:02:09 2013. Thanks! |
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Posted by j trainloco on Sat Jun 22 23:20:13 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 22 07:21:45 2013. 207th needs to start getting ready for NTTs at some point. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 23 00:30:16 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 21:20:06 2013. I was never in favor of the swap. I don't believe in giving your problems to someone else. I believe that you fix your problems. Of course, I lost the argument in 2009 and 2010. The 5 train swap may be a test to see if shifting the R-32s to the J for the summer does work. If it does during the first real heat wave of the summer, you may see more trains swapped. |
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Posted by FarRock on Sun Jun 23 01:36:23 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 23 00:30:16 2013. For the next 15yrs!!! |
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Posted by Cats on Sun Jun 23 09:31:21 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by monorail on Sat Jun 22 20:41:45 2013. Estimated Numbers Example10 Mile Strech MonoRail 10 Billion less then 10 Years 10 Mile Strech New Subway 40 Billion 40 Years Not in my Lifetime Common Sence Approach John Catsimatidis thats why I am running for Mayor Professional Politicians Have No Clue www.Cats2013.com https://twitter.com/JCats2013 facebook.com/JohnCats2013 |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 23 09:39:25 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by FarRock on Sun Jun 23 01:36:23 2013. Could be. Or the R-32s could be fixed. It's not all that difficult. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Jun 23 16:33:35 2013, in response to Re: R32 J - What conductor position are they using?, posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 21:21:02 2013. No, they only had, and still have, door controls in the "B" end cab, or conductor cab. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Jun 23 16:38:19 2013, in response to Re: R32 J - What conductor position are they using?, posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 21:21:02 2013. In the older 60' class cars, the R-32/38 classes had door controls in the cabs. I never worked R-30s but I don't believe they had door controls in the cabs. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jun 23 16:43:14 2013, in response to Re: R32 J - What conductor position are they using?, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Jun 23 16:38:19 2013. R-30s definitely had door controls in all the cabs as did everything from the R-15 thru the 38. In fact as I mentioned in another post, since the R-68s were originally designed to have convertible cabs similar to the R-62s, they also had C/R controls in both cabs. Once it was realized that C/Rs could not safely use the controls in the #2 cabs, they were removed leaving only the #1 transverse cabs with C/R controls. |
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Posted by grimace1169 on Sun Jun 23 21:49:17 2013, in response to Re: R32 J - What conductor position are they using?, posted by randyo on Sun Jun 23 16:43:14 2013. Interesting. In what way was it unsafe for the C/R? Ergonomics? |
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Posted by The silence on Mon Jun 24 00:16:25 2013, in response to Re: R32 J - What conductor position are they using?, posted by grimace1169 on Sun Jun 23 21:49:17 2013. Moving from one car to the other on a 75 footer. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 09:43:01 2013, in response to R32 J..., posted by MTA T on Wed Jun 19 10:22:12 2013. The R32 is running in service on the 9:27 out of JC. First time I've ever seen it running outside rush hour. It might stay in service all day. |
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Posted by R32_3671 on Tue Jun 25 09:45:41 2013, in response to Newest news: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 09:43:01 2013. its a school car now, I just got off of it, they changed it to schoolcar |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 09:50:34 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by R32_3671 on Tue Jun 25 09:45:41 2013. I thought it stopped at Forest Parkway. Oh well. |
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Posted by R32_3671 on Tue Jun 25 10:53:15 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 09:50:34 2013. that's what they do, they make stops as in training new T/O's |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jun 25 11:56:54 2013, in response to Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 19:02:55 2013. Some of the Redbirds under the Ocean are probably in better condition.... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jun 25 11:57:58 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by R32_3671 on Tue Jun 25 09:45:41 2013. That could explain why they only run them when they have to on the line. They may have to wait until they have enough TO with experience to run them on that line. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Jun 25 12:48:50 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jun 25 11:57:58 2013. I doubt it was current J line crews on this Schoolcar train in question.The schoolcar trains are usually T/O's who are new to either working in T/A or is just learning that job title (T/O), or T/Os who came from the IRT. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 25 13:55:59 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by R32_3671 on Tue Jun 25 09:45:41 2013. school car? Train operators or conductors?I wonder why an R32? Did the instructors ask for that train or just take what the T/D gave them? Makes no sense because I'll bet their practical exam will be on a tech train. So why waste time on a 32 |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 14:11:51 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Jun 25 12:48:50 2013. Is operating an R32 really different than an R42? |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 25 15:16:11 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 14:11:51 2013. Unless things have changed radically since I was a M/M, crews are qualified on all equipment that operates on their respective divisions and all lines since with the exception of not running 75 ft cars in the BMT East any cars can show up on any line at any time. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 25 15:20:00 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 25 13:55:59 2013. Actually, the practical will probably be on a non NTT like an R-68 since they will be around for quite some time. Since a 32 operates similarly to a 68, that makes a bit of sense. |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Jun 25 15:58:21 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 14:11:51 2013. only difference as of now is that the R32 Seat is less comfortable than an R 42 seat. at least for me, anyway.... |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 26 03:14:08 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by monorail on Tue Jun 25 15:58:21 2013. I found it the other way around. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 26 03:14:24 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by monorail on Tue Jun 25 15:58:21 2013. I found it the other way around. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Jun 26 09:53:38 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 14:11:51 2013. R32s stopped on a dime. R42s stopped on a dime with extra braking distance |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 12:19:17 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Jun 26 09:53:38 2013. What if they mixed them ? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 26 14:47:13 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Jun 26 09:53:38 2013. R42's can be stopped BY a dime. They hardly break 25MPH on level track these days. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 17:44:50 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 26 14:47:13 2013. We got a You Tube video about a month ago of one doing 44MPH on an express dash, albeit downhill. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jun 26 18:13:58 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 17:44:50 2013. That was my video, taken on March 28th, 2013.For those who havent seen it: We hit 44 mph around 28:11 |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 18:17:18 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jun 26 18:13:58 2013. Yes, I bookmarked it. I loved that video.Please try again with an R32 inbound if you can. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jun 26 20:28:16 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 18:17:18 2013. Thanks!I will make a video with the R32s as soon as I get a chance. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Jun 27 08:01:46 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 17:44:50 2013. When I had the signal dolly, it broke faster than 44. I don't think that el saw a faster train since the Green R10 fan trip back in 89 |
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Posted by fset on Thu Jun 27 10:42:09 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 17:41:26 2013. I saw a train of R32 cars at Essex Street, bound for Jamaica, and yes they were signed-up with a single crappy centered [Z]. The train dwelled there a long time on the center track, but then my Broad Street-bound train came and blocked the view. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 27 12:04:10 2013, in response to Re: Newest news: R32 J... doing schoolcar, posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Jun 27 08:01:46 2013. That Green R10- was rocking side-to-side in 1989 so much between Myrtle and Eastern Pkwy, I thought it would derail. The express track still had the panel track of unstaggered rail joints from the 1950's or 1960's. I rode it up to Jamaica, then got off. I heard it was a wild ride back to Manhattan too. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 27 12:06:20 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by fset on Thu Jun 27 10:42:09 2013. I guess they did not know what Z was to be for when they did those roll signs in the mid-1980's. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 27 12:13:41 2013, in response to R32 J..., posted by MTA T on Wed Jun 19 10:22:12 2013. I just noticed a set of them, probably doing the schoolcar thing with differing car #'s (one being 3676/77) pass by, westbound. |
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