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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 18:55:13 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by CJ on Thu Jun 20 18:01:28 2013.

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I think they were to keep 46 around, then Keipper ordered them scrapped.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jun 20 18:56:28 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by VictorM on Thu Jun 20 16:48:58 2013.

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The (J) runs 24/7 where's the (C) does not.

I doubt the TA wants the 32s running 24/7.

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Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ...

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 18:57:28 2013, in response to Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 18:08:29 2013.

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That tells me they are running the R42's into the ground, and the R32's must be preserved longer.

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Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ...

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 19:02:55 2013, in response to Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ..., posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 18:57:28 2013.

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Maybe Pitkin said "we want it back in pristine condition....or else". Meanwhile, the R42's are just one rain storm away from dissolving into neat orange piles of rust filings.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 19:06:22 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jun 20 18:56:28 2013.

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20 minute service overnight probably calls for about 6 trains sets. They need not be R32's, even if a few more sets come over.

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Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ...

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 19:07:40 2013, in response to Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 19:02:55 2013.

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It would not break the bank to dump some primer paint on their roofs.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by CJ on Thu Jun 20 19:08:05 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 18:55:13 2013.

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That came back to bite them when the Metrocard came in...

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jun 20 19:09:48 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 19:06:22 2013.

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The way Victor implied it made it seem they should swap ALL of the 32s to the J line and put the J's 160s on the C.

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Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ...

Posted by monorail on Thu Jun 20 19:20:27 2013, in response to Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ..., posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 18:57:28 2013.

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'That tells me they are running the R42's into the ground'

isn't that due to service being underground ?????

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 19:35:32 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jun 20 19:09:48 2013.

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they are going to do that anyway,when the 179's come in.
swap out the 160s to the C..Placing the 179's in J service.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 20:03:04 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 19:35:32 2013.

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How do you know they will not simply place 8 car R179's on the C and 48 more cars on the J ?

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 20:04:17 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by CJ on Thu Jun 20 19:08:05 2013.

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Which the TA fought tooth and nail, until Pataki told them accept it, or polish up your Resume's. I didn't think much of that governor, but he did that right.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by VictorM on Thu Jun 20 20:33:52 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jun 20 19:09:48 2013.

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Yes, that's what I thought, but on second thought there just aren't enough 4 car R160 sets available to completely fill out the C (or the J/Z). They would still have to keep some R32's (or R42's) on the C even if the J/Z became 100% R32.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jun 20 20:35:16 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 14:21:06 2013.

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Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ...

Posted by VictorM on Thu Jun 20 21:37:52 2013, in response to Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ..., posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 18:57:28 2013.

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The trouble is they won't even begin to replace the R42 and 32's until two years from now (July 2015) when the first 4-car R179 set arrives.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Jun 21 02:59:34 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jun 20 13:51:41 2013.

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Yes, in fact they should be here this weekend for testing purposes.
After that, we shall see.........

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 21 06:51:59 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by VictorM on Thu Jun 20 20:33:52 2013.

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They need 144 R32's out of 222 to run the C.
They won't need a 35% shop margin with R179's.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by VictorM on Fri Jun 21 12:56:46 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by VictorM on Thu Jun 20 20:33:52 2013.

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I meant what the situation would be before the 179's arrive. If the J/Z were 100% R32 and ENY's spare R160's transferred to the C, they would still need some of the older cars for the C.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by j trainloco on Fri Jun 21 13:19:35 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 19:35:32 2013.

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What is the incentive to do that?

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Jun 21 14:12:15 2013, in response to R32 J..., posted by MTA T on Wed Jun 19 10:22:12 2013.

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Why is Chrome asking me to translate this page from Serbian?

--Mark

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 21 14:29:22 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by j trainloco on Fri Jun 21 13:19:35 2013.

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Why shift the R160 fleet to the C ?
R179's are direct replacements of the R32 and R42.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 21 14:30:28 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by VictorM on Fri Jun 21 12:56:46 2013.

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I don't think the whole R32 fleet is taking over the J/Z, so I would not even think through that scenario.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 21 15:24:51 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Jun 21 14:12:15 2013.

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Because subchat is encoded in "windows-1252" unicode, which is Western European (Albanian, Basque, Breton, Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Faeroese, Finnish, French, German, Greenlandic, Icelandic, Irish Gaelic, Italian, Latin, Luxemburgish, Norwegian, Portuguese, Rhaeto-Romanic, Scottish Gaelic, Spanish, Swedish) character coding as opposed to the more universal UTF-8 encoding. Google's toy expects to see UTF-8 from America.

The 1252 coding is also the reason why articles copied and pasted which contain other unicode characters in it tend to come up trashy with garbage characters in it when played back from Larry's database even though the post may look OK after thinking twice and posting anyway. :)

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by joe c on Fri Jun 21 15:43:32 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 21 14:29:22 2013.

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My guess is it's a short-term trade,ENY gets some of the C line's R32 cars.while the C line gets some R160A-1s to run in place of those R32s that are at ENY.



til next time

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 21 16:28:02 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by joe c on Fri Jun 21 15:43:32 2013.

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I think it is just for the R160 SMS, then to put an R42 set out of its misery.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 21 16:45:39 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jun 20 13:51:41 2013.

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hmm..no R46's on the C this year?

thats terrible..!

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 21 16:47:10 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Jun 21 02:59:34 2013.

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so they are going to switch out 5 sets for 5 sets of 32's?

that sucks big time..why not take em from the M fleet?

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R32 Z train

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 21 17:59:20 2013, in response to R32 J..., posted by MTA T on Wed Jun 19 10:22:12 2013.

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At least today. Passed by about 5 minutes ago. Oh, I missed you center Z bullet rollsign. Last time I saw you was on an R30....in 1988.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Jun 21 18:16:50 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 21 16:47:10 2013.

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why not take em from the M fleet?

OPTO on the weekends..

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 21 18:21:49 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Jun 21 18:16:50 2013.

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that wouldn't affect weekday travel since they dont use "opto" weekdays.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 21 18:55:45 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Jun 21 18:16:50 2013.

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R32 on M:

South sign would be blanked
North sign would be incomplete
Route sign would say Myrtle/Nassau

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by monorail on Fri Jun 21 19:17:53 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 21 18:55:45 2013.

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stickers could be made up for service...

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 21 19:22:17 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by monorail on Fri Jun 21 19:17:53 2013.

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Elderly car, they probably want sleeping near ENY shops every night.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 21 20:26:26 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 21 16:47:10 2013.

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The purpose of the swap is to have the R32's run above ground as much as possible so the air conditioning system can function more efficiently. The J has more time on the structure than the M.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 21 20:39:41 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 21 20:26:26 2013.

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that's interesting.


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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 21 20:57:10 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 21 20:39:41 2013.

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That was the reason why they were put on the A on the past, because the line was outside for part of the run.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 21:16:08 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 23:30:40 2013.

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I'm surprised you didn't bring up the electric brake plug.:)

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 21:16:57 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 23:31:17 2013.

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I think Moe started poking and slapping it, saying, "What's the matter with you?!?":)

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 21:19:43 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 20 13:47:54 2013.

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Then there's the Triplexes. Stll running like tops when they were sent to slaughter. OK, the R-32s were being delivered at such a rapid pace that they would have run out of space for them had they not done something. But still....

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 21 21:20:37 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 21 20:26:26 2013.

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Actually makes sense since they weren't built for air conditioning in the first place, and there wasn't all that much room at the ends on the bulkheads. So whatever they did manage to put in there couldn't have been too big in the first place. Thanks for the logic. Actually makes sense.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 21:20:58 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 14:16:53 2013.

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The R-32s out in Three Stooges territory. Sounds like a demotion, if you ask me.

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Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ...

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 21:22:01 2013, in response to Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ..., posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 20 19:07:40 2013.

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Or break out a roll of duct tape.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 21 21:22:25 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 21:16:08 2013.

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Didn't go with any of the various cocks either. There's just too many giggles in railroading, so you learn to rotate them when you can. :)

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 21 21:23:46 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 21:16:57 2013.

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Can't put out a heater fire without a seltzer bottle ... :)

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Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 21 21:28:20 2013, in response to Re: Sighting! R32 J watch ..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 21:22:01 2013.

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Duct tape still needs something to stick to. :)

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Re: R32 Z train

Posted by MTA T on Fri Jun 21 21:32:55 2013, in response to R32 Z train, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 21 17:59:20 2013.

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Lol I saw it in 2011... but anyway, interesting to see the R32 (Z); it's not as common as the R32 (J) (obviously lol).

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 21 22:01:41 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by monorail on Fri Jun 21 19:17:53 2013.

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Easier to just keep the R160's on the M.

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 21 22:53:30 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 21 20:57:10 2013.

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thanks.



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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 21 23:58:41 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 21 20:26:26 2013.

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yeah yeah..I know that..but c'mon..

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Re: R32 J...

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 00:02:18 2013, in response to Re: R32 J..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 21:20:58 2013.

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that what I say..4 more sets seem okay if its replacing the rolling wrecks..

BUT if its just swapping out five trains for more of the "old stuff",then this really sucks ass.

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