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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 26 21:27:10 2013, in response to PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue May 21 07:55:44 2013.

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Too bad . . . Botanical Garden station looked better with the low platforms . . .



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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 26 21:33:59 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 26 21:27:10 2013.

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yup but it would have been fucking hard to get of any M series car.


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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 26 21:43:23 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 26 21:33:59 2013.

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Details ... details ... you merely toss them off at speed. :)

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 27 01:21:54 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 26 21:33:59 2013.

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Sure . . . but they coulda built them with the steps and trapdoors too. I think that technology for automatic trapdoors might have been available back then too, if the railroads wanted them . . .



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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 27 01:23:22 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 26 21:43:23 2013.

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Here's details for ye. All Metropolitans shoulda been built like this, I say. (The only equivalent that exists today door-wise is on the Silverliner V, although it's not a direct equivalent since it has long doors.)



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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by chud1 on Mon May 27 04:56:09 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 26 21:27:10 2013.

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i agree. my old metro north station.
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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon May 27 06:20:13 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 27 01:21:54 2013.

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Sure and your example show another failure in American railroading.
4 of these cars ran on MNCR in early 80's but even as Electrics ( Gas turbines were removed at time) they sucked and were pretty much hauled as dead cars all time.


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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue May 28 11:08:26 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 27 01:23:22 2013.

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Wow, now THAT'S friggin' ugly!!!!!!!! What kind of Franken-MU will they (or have they) thought of next???? Yikes!!!!!!! X-P

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue May 28 11:12:25 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue May 28 11:08:26 2013.

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LOL outside of that missing chunk of roof, it would almost look just like the rest of them! :)

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue May 28 11:42:02 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue May 28 11:12:25 2013.

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That thing looks definitely like a Franken-MU!! :-D

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 28 19:43:45 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 27 01:23:22 2013.

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Thats an M-1 with a lobotomy!

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 28 21:19:39 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue May 28 11:08:26 2013.

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First attempt at multilevel seating. :)

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 28 23:00:52 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue May 28 11:08:26 2013.

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Former turbine MU. Failed "dual mode". Imagine if they made a diesel version of this, though, and you had to run something like this up to places like Poughkeepsie or Dover Plains . . . ?

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 28 23:01:33 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 28 19:43:45 2013.

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Yes . . . lobotomized turbine version.

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 29 05:01:08 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 28 23:00:52 2013.

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A MU car would not be able to handle weight of 600 Hp diesel, a cooling plant and fuel supply, the Gas turbine weighs a 1/4 of diesels weight and does not need cooling plant.

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed May 29 09:11:54 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 29 05:01:08 2013.

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What engines did the RDC use to propel themselves? Also, what do the railcars that run on Portland's WES line have? Are their diesel engines smaller?

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 29 10:32:36 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 29 05:01:08 2013.

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How soon we all forget the 21 First Century Doodlebugs.

THE BUDD SPV

Nice color scheme.

I wonder what a T-10 is?

Run this puppy on the Jamaica Bay Flats!

This would have been nice from Speonk-Babylon-Hicksville-Jamaica-Hunters Point.

Metro North utilized them, but below their potential. The Port Jervis Branch comes to mind.

Here's a peek inside.

This consist seems to have unpowered coaches toward the read. Note doors are for high level platforms only on coaches.

Now these are for high level platforms only.

The front end is somewhat different and this one can serve high and low level platforms

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 29 10:50:57 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 29 10:32:36 2013.

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Just one more.

Is this an SPV with pants for dual mode operation?

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by chud1 on Wed May 29 16:07:42 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 29 10:32:36 2013.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars on these pictures.
chud1

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 29 16:50:31 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 29 10:50:57 2013.

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No; look at the front end, with the high-platform-only door. Also look at the coupler. It's half of a Metroliner MU married pair.

Can you believe that the federal government propaganda originally claimed that those babies were to run at 160 mph on the NEC, which would have made them the fastest revenue passenger trains in the world back in 1969 if they had actually done that?

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 29 16:51:07 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 29 10:32:36 2013.

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First-century doodlebugs? These were running during the time of Christ?

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 29 20:04:00 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 29 16:51:07 2013.

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My bad , I had '21" then "First".
Sorry if I caused confusion.

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 29 22:14:01 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 29 20:04:00 2013.

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Well, the SPVs were strictly 20th century either way.

Budd should've tried building them as a DEMU (diesel-electric). Some of the best DMUs are in the diesel-electric format, e.g. the 125-mph Virgin Voyager . . .

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Avid Reader on Thu May 30 09:50:06 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 29 20:04:00 2013.

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Was the roof top shroud a later addition to the Metro Liners?






The astute student will note, one car has the shroud, while the remaining three carsdo not.

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by chud1 on Thu May 30 13:03:45 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Avid Reader on Thu May 30 09:50:06 2013.

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A+ on these pictures.
chud1

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 30 18:19:15 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Avid Reader on Thu May 30 09:50:06 2013.

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Was the roof top shroud a later addition to the Metroliners?

Yes. Apparently, some of the electrical components were vulnerable to snow while under the car, so they got moved to the roof.

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri May 31 08:06:34 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 30 18:19:15 2013.

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Ah Ha!
That makes so much sense. Was that carried over to the CDOT Metro cars?

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri May 31 12:19:53 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 29 10:32:36 2013.

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I like the 1001 Inspection Car SPV, as seen here in New Haven Yard, caught by yours truly, in 2009......

Outside.....
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In the cab.....
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Thanks for viewing!! :-)

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri May 31 12:52:57 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri May 31 12:19:53 2013.

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Best comment from commuter, when they walked into those cars was Pew is this why they call them Butt Cars, they smell like ass.

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri May 31 13:30:18 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri May 31 12:19:53 2013.

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Nice set of photos.
thanks for sharing.

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Jun 1 07:52:32 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri May 31 12:52:57 2013.

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Well being out in the air did them some good when they were in NH, these cars didn't stink at all!! In fact they smelled better inside than some of the (hate to say it) M-8s now have (lately a few for some reason smell like really sweaty feet!! X-P)

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Jun 1 07:52:58 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Avid Reader on Fri May 31 13:30:18 2013.

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You're quite welcome!! :-)

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jun 1 12:42:42 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Jun 1 07:52:32 2013.

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believe me the cloth seats stank like hell in regular service. kind of like jerry Seinfeld's car episode where he could not get rid of odor.

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Jun 1 13:26:10 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jun 1 12:42:42 2013.

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Similar to the totally blundered, failed pilot program to put fabric seating in the M-series on the NH!!

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by Neil Feldman on Tue Jun 4 13:14:05 2013, in response to PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue May 21 07:55:44 2013.

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Ya caught the post now, sweet!

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Re: PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-)

Posted by chud1 on Tue Jun 4 13:43:39 2013, in response to PHOTOS For Neil Feldman....the M-3 Commuter EMU Fan!! :-), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue May 21 07:55:44 2013.

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my old station for metro-north.
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:)....


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Re: For the Interurban Fan

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon May 19 09:50:09 2014, in response to For the Interurban Fan, posted by Avid Reader on Wed May 8 11:56:05 2013.

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It seems like only just last year this was a topic of interest.

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