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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 16:30:22 2013 NJ.com
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 22 16:44:08 2013, in response to NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 16:30:22 2013. That is great news. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 22 16:55:29 2013, in response to NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 16:30:22 2013. Still have to make the dumb transfer at LB. Instead of adding extra NJCL electrics, they should run more through diesels from Newark, where demand from Manhattan can be absorbed by existing NEC service, Trains can then run express between NPS and Matawan. I am willing to bet a majority of the demand for summer service to the Jersey Shore is intra-state, not from NYC. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 22 16:59:01 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Joe V on Wed May 22 16:44:08 2013. Zman? |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Wed May 22 17:02:10 2013, in response to NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 16:30:22 2013. Actually the new schedules are already posted to the website. In addition to the NJCL changes, all NJT commuter rail timetables except Atlantic City are being reissued effective June 2.Alan Follett Hercules, CA |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 22 17:09:30 2013, in response to NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 16:30:22 2013. there is sometimes a wait to transfer from the diesel trains running between Bay Head and Long Branch to electric trains running north toward Hoboken and New York CityWhy would that happen? Unless a diesel was cancelled, the electric should always wait for the diesel for the connection, and vice versa. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 22 17:11:58 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 22 16:55:29 2013. I did not notice that to be the case when I took a train to Asbury Park last summer. Loaded from NY, though the majority went south of Long Branch |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 22 17:13:06 2013, in response to NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 16:30:22 2013. The extra trains are actually semi-expresses running 8 - 9 minutes in advance of the normal Long Branch locals. (no thru trains to Bay Head, no dual-modes, maybe next year).2 of the 4 Rahway locals are extended to South Amboy as well. Even though the expresses stop at Newark (no SEC, no EWR), and at Elizabeth and Rahway, they do NOT appear on the NEC schedules. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 22 17:24:36 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by 3-9 on Wed May 22 17:09:30 2013. There's always a pad, up to 15 minutes, because the NJCL is so damned unreliable. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 22 17:34:38 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Joe V on Wed May 22 17:13:06 2013. I was thinking this would be the perfect runs to test the dual modes on. I guess Amtrak still isn't convinced they can be run reliably yet. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 17:51:34 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 22 16:55:29 2013. Sadly correct. You'd think NJT would jump at the chance to turn the expresses from NYP into ALP-45DP-powered direct trains to Bay Head.The trains from Hoboken are direct, IIRC. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 22 17:59:59 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 17:51:34 2013. The last time I saw one of the weekend Hoboken - Bay Head expresses at Newark about 8 years ago, it was 6 cars and not well patronized. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 22 18:02:26 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 22 17:34:38 2013. They are only 9 available, the rest damaged by Sandy, and still in the Hoboken phase of their life, though they did cover all the MDT trains on a weekend a couple of months ago. They can only handle 8 MLV cars. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Wed May 22 18:07:17 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Joe V on Wed May 22 17:59:59 2013. Those ran mainly to fuel the diesels in Hoboken. I lived near Matawan at the time, and on weekends if I wanted to visit NYC, I took the morning eastbound and the afternoon westbound to avoid the crazy 72XX trains... And you are right, ridership was paltry. They ran 6 car sets, but they only had 2 cars open IIRC, and they could have gotten away with 1 car open most of the time... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 22 18:08:21 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Joe V on Wed May 22 18:02:26 2013. 8 is fine for an express run, bypassing all that demand on the NEC. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 22 19:51:27 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 22 17:24:36 2013. That sucks, Bay Head to Long Branch can't be that far. :-( |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 22:37:10 2013, in response to Re: NJT finally re-expanding NJCL weekend/holiday service, posted by 3-9 on Wed May 22 19:51:27 2013. It's about eighteen miles. |
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