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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 10:20:58 2013 as of last night (9pm) cleanup has started.http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Crews-working-to-hoist-damaged-train-from-tracks-4529053.php |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 19 10:34:07 2013, in response to Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 10:20:58 2013. They should make an ad hoc HOV lane from Bridgeport to Fairfield Metro exit on I-95 and keep the buses pumping.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun May 19 10:43:25 2013, in response to Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 10:20:58 2013. Which indicate to me they have a pretty good idea of what caused it, or the lawyers and engineers would still be at it. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun May 19 10:50:39 2013, in response to Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 10:20:58 2013. I hope some railfans got a video of these M8s getting towed back to the yard. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 11:00:00 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Joe V on Sun May 19 10:43:25 2013. earlier report of fractured rail. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 19 11:07:24 2013, in response to Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 10:20:58 2013. Did the NTSB finish its investigation? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 19 11:20:00 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dave on Sun May 19 11:07:24 2013. I don't think they'd be pulling trains out otherwise.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun May 19 11:50:29 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 11:00:00 2013. Of could the derailment fracture the rail, invert cause & effect ? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 12:40:24 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Joe V on Sun May 19 10:43:25 2013. No. All it means is that they have collected perishable evidence from the wreck site. They will now go over the cars and adjacent infrastructure with a fine tooth comb to see what else it is that they may see. They will now examine those cars in detail and reconstruct all of the forces involved in the accident, and the sequence of events.They have so far as I know, not ruled anything out yet. But an examination of the ground, its moisture, its stability especially with the adjacent tracks and ballast removed as it was. LOOK under every leaf, every scrap of metal, examine how it was deformed and by what. There is a LOOONNNNG way to go on this investigation, and much of it is done in doors at the drafting table, with paper, pencil and computer. And, Yes, the NTSB knows how vital this rail link is to the area and how important it is to have trains running again as soon as possible. But you do need to remove the cars before you can continue to inspect the track and roadbed structure. So go ROAR on that. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 12:43:57 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dave on Sun May 19 11:07:24 2013. No. Not by a long shot. All they did was examine perishable evidence, and make photographs of every thing within one mile.They have begun to gather evidence, Once the cars are moved they will be back to examine the road bed very carefully. THEN they will take all of this information back to Washington and examine it, literally for months. Once they have reached their conclusions they will cast their report in Government Speak (another month at least)... It is only just begun! ROAR |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 19 14:00:33 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Joe V on Sun May 19 11:50:29 2013. Wheel marks at the joint should tell that story one way or another. |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun May 19 16:06:21 2013, in response to Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 10:20:58 2013. Per NTSB Twitter all cars are removed from the scene. |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun May 19 16:07:12 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Train2104 on Sun May 19 16:06:21 2013. They are going to MNR BRP Yard |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun May 19 16:09:02 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Train2104 on Sun May 19 16:06:21 2013. Preliminary data: Both trains were traveling at roughly 70mph at time of collision |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 19 17:00:30 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 12:43:57 2013. From what I read no equipment was allowed to be moved until the NTSB finished their preliminary investigation. I guess they did. |
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Posted by Joe on Sun May 19 17:38:20 2013, in response to Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 10:20:58 2013. I must ask an elementary question. On which two tracks were the trains running, as two were out of service? I don't recall how tracks are numbered along there, presumably 1 and 2 in the center and 3 and 4 on the outside, but please confirm the ordinary track numbering. In recent weeks, have the passengers been using temporary bridges to board trains at the nearby station?Thanks. Joe |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 17:43:28 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dave on Sun May 19 17:00:30 2013. All cars are gone, working on track now |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 19 17:46:23 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Joe on Sun May 19 17:38:20 2013. 2 and 4 (express and local to ny) were in service and 1 and 3 (express and local to new haven) are out. There's an interlocking east of the crash site where they can reroute.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 17:53:47 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Joe on Sun May 19 17:38:20 2013. east bound track is 4, eastbound express is 2westbound track is 3, westbound express track is 1 3 and 1 are out of service for viaduct construction and catenary trains were on tracks 4 and 2 yes there are bridge plates at Fairfield Metro and at Fairfield, Greens farms. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 19 17:55:04 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dave on Sun May 19 11:07:24 2013. Are they still going with the original assumption or findings, the bad rail thing? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 19 18:03:07 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 19 17:55:04 2013. They haven't said yet.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 19 18:26:29 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 17:43:28 2013. Since there is a wreck repair shop, albeit a small one, in Stamford, I wonder if any of the cars went there? I'll know tomorrow (pic ops??) |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 18:33:24 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 19 18:26:29 2013. Cars went to Bridgeport for further NTSB investigations |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 19 18:44:03 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 18:33:24 2013. Guess there's plenty of room there for them to do their investigations. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 18:48:03 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 19 18:44:03 2013. yup and with power off, they got from 0730 till 1830 without disturbing anyone. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 19 20:20:44 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun May 19 10:50:39 2013. I hope some railfans got a video of these M8s getting towed back to the yard.I saw the video on Ch.4 news tonight. The cars look worse for wear, now that they are separated. I don't think the cars with the worse damage can be repaired. Unless they can remove an entire side of the car body and replace it with a new side. But will it be worth it cost and labor wise ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 19 20:23:17 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 17:43:28 2013. All cars are gone, working on track nowHow long did it take to tow the cars back to New Haven at a slow restricted speed ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 20:38:20 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Fred G on Sun May 19 17:46:23 2013. I did an overhead view of all of the tracks between Bridgeport and Fairfield and saw no switches. Where is this interlocking in relation to the crash site.ROAR |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 20:38:45 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 19 20:23:17 2013. their going to Bridgeport yard for further investigation. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 20:40:34 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 20:38:20 2013. at CP255 about 3 miles east or CP248 about 4 miles west of crash. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 19 20:47:00 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 20:38:45 2013. their going to Bridgeport yard for further investigation.I found out from other posters that they were being hauled to Bridgeport yard. New Haven yard is where the rubes on Channel 4 said they were headed :o( Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Sun May 19 20:56:21 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 19 20:47:00 2013. Well, some new cars most likely headed for the scrapper. :( |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun May 19 21:05:06 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun May 19 20:40:34 2013. Thank You!I was commenting on the Trains.com forum on this and I told them that there were no switches in the area. They were thinking a picked switch. I Googled the whole area between Fairfield and Bridgeport, not knowing the exact location of the incident from the aerials. But I assured myself of what I had said and so said it again, telling them to go look at the visuals themselves. ROAR |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun May 19 21:13:46 2013, in response to Re: Cleanup at crash site started, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Sun May 19 20:56:21 2013. Both 9246 and 9247 are total losses. Perhaps replacements will be built, but those two are gone. 9193 is also likely a total loss, unless they can figure out how to fix her nose.wayne |
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