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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 09:31:23 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 03:12:00 2013. Bah, too bad both were odd units, they could have had a mismatched pair while the others get replaced...I'm thinking the'll just have to order 2 additional odd units to pair with these "widows". |
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Re: M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 18 10:02:55 2013, in response to Re: M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 23:58:12 2013. If these were automobiles with damage of a similar extent they would be off to the junkyard in a flash. Train cars seem to be more repairable, fortunately.My blog |
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Re: M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by AlM on Sat May 18 10:04:32 2013, in response to Re: M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 18 10:02:55 2013. Cost.How many hours is it worth spending on a car that costs 20K to replace? But for $1 million, it's worth doing a lot more. |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by numbersix on Sat May 18 10:17:26 2013, in response to Metro North Incident, posted by Jsun21 on Fri May 17 18:35:31 2013. Dozens of whiplash cases reported after the bus from Boro Park arrived. |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 10:24:02 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Joe V on Fri May 17 20:39:23 2013. for trains on Harlem Hudson its Odd (northbound) leaving GCT, even (inbound) into GCT, |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat May 18 10:48:41 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 20:35:30 2013. Thanks for the concern, fellas!! It all went down not even 20 minutes after I got off duty (crazy eh???)Thanks, seriously fellas, thanks!! :-) |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat May 18 10:49:37 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Fulton Frank on Sat May 18 07:44:01 2013. Have not heard anything as of yet about crew injuries, but of course I always hope everyone involved made it through, and makes it through ok!!Thanks for the concern, good buddy!! I definitely appreciate that!! :-) |
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Re: Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat May 18 10:52:05 2013, in response to Re: Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident, posted by randyo on Fri May 17 22:16:08 2013. Probably since MNR was created in 1983. Only makes sense as in the scheme of things, Metro-North's destinations and terminals are all north of GCT, systemwise and geographically. |
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Re: M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat May 18 10:53:25 2013, in response to M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 23:29:54 2013. CRAP!!! That sucks about 9310/11, they got OK'ed for service barely a couple weeks ago or so!!! Brand new......SMH and sad!! :-( |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat May 18 10:59:34 2013, in response to Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 01:24:48 2013. There is a bridge reconstruction just north of the accidentThere is bridge reconstruction just EAST of the accident......EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat May 18 11:15:35 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 21:42:55 2013. Speaking of which, some of those M-6's due to be scraped, might be held for some more service. |
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Re: Interior wreck M-8 pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat May 18 11:34:41 2013, in response to Re: Interior wreck M-8 pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by chud1 on Sat May 18 04:20:41 2013. I noticed welded rail and wooden ties.Is it possible a mildly warm day could have caused rails to warp off of ties , to cause derail? |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat May 18 11:36:48 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by G1Ravage on Fri May 17 21:29:56 2013. Was it tested sufficiently? |
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NTSB press confrence - Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 11:59:41 2013, in response to Metro North Incident, posted by Jsun21 on Fri May 17 18:35:31 2013. The probe of the Metro-North train wreck is underway with officials urging rail commuters to start making alternative transportation plans. Investigators from National Transportation Safety Board have arrived in Bridgeport find the cause of Friday evening's Metro-North train collision that left more than 60 people injured. Three patients remained in critical condition Saturday morning, with two of those stable, according to officials at two Bridgeport hospitals. NTSB member Earl Weene said the investigation is focusing on a variety of focal areas including braking performance, condition of wheels, condition of tracks and signals. "Well also be looking at how the crew behaved (and) operated the train," he said. Weene said he believes data recorders were on board to record speed and other information. Asked about foul play, he said "It's too early to rule out anything." Weene said it will be at least a day and a half for investigators to gather "perishible evidence" at the scene. That means that the trains will remain on the scene until the onsite probe if finished. What would follow would be having cranes remove the trains and inspect for any damage to the infrastructure. Gov. Dannel P. Malloy joined NTSB representatives this morning to inspect the area where two Metro-North train collided in Bridgeport. They were be joined by Sen. Richard Blumenthal, Sen. Chris Murphy, and other state officials. When asked when he thought train service would return to normal, Malloy said, "We really cannot give you good information on that. We will set up a system to move people from Bridgeport to the next possible station that can handle that traffic. Folks east of Bridgeport, you should begin making plans for alternate travel." After seeing the wreckage, Blumenthal said "the sides of cars torn away like ribbons of cloth ... I feel we were fortunate even more injuries were not the result of this." He believes fact the cars were new saved lives. "One point seems fairly clear...the newly constructed cars seem to have made a difference." Himes was also surprised that there were not more injuries. "The scene down there is enormously violent," he said. About 10:15 a.m., a convoy of more than a dozen NTSB inspectors arrived on seen to tour the wreckage. The two trains remain on the tracks off of Commerce Street in Bridgeport. The trains will remain in place until the NTSB finishes its on-site probe. Cranes will be needed to remove the trains from the tracks. Inspections will also be required to make sure tracks and infrastructure are safe. The crash occurred right behind Steve Junker's car customizing shop, Sunlimited on Commerce drive just below the I-95 overpass. It was business as usual for Junker as Saturdays investigation continued. "We heard a big boom" Junker recalled from night before. But he said he and his stsff were used to the noise because of ongoing construction Down the blocking vicinity of train bridge where Commerce meets Fairfield Avenue. "They're doing construction, pounding beams into the ground. All day long all you here is boom, boom, boom.We assumed it was the grand finale." About 700 people were on board the Metro-North trains when one heading east from New York City's Grand Central Terminal to New Haven derailed at about 6:10 p.m. just outside Bridgeport, transit and Bridgeport officials said. The train was hit by a train heading west from New Haven to Grand Central on an adjacent track, Metropolitan Transportation Authority spokesman Aaron Donovan said. Some cars on the second train derailed as a result of the collision. - http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/NTSB-probe-begins-in-Bridgeport-4527727.php#ixzz2Tf0lhZ5p |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat May 18 12:24:18 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat May 18 10:59:34 2013. But the bridge is still south of New Haven, right?:-) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 12:58:11 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Joe V on Sat May 18 06:56:23 2013. Question: are they still using any dual modes for peak service on the New Haven? Before the M8's arrived there were at least 2 or 3 used during rush hour to cover service because there weren't enougn MU's. |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 13:10:59 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat May 18 10:59:34 2013. LOL, they think they're looking at a map with north being UP on the video :)your pal, Fred |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 13:11:29 2013, in response to Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 01:24:48 2013. That's the old BURR tower spot.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 13:11:49 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat May 18 10:49:37 2013. One crew member (Helen) is in hospital, but not life threatening |
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Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 13:13:15 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Avid Reader on Sat May 18 11:15:35 2013. nope, already stripped of parts and gone to cedar hill. |
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Re: Interior wreck M-8 pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 13:13:45 2013, in response to Re: Interior wreck M-8 pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Avid Reader on Sat May 18 11:34:41 2013. not on a mild day like yesterday. |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 13:17:29 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by 3-9 on Sat May 18 12:24:18 2013. if it were south of New Haven it be in Long Island sound |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 13:19:20 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 13:11:29 2013. correct, right at location of old Burr road tower. |
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Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 13:21:20 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Avid Reader on Sat May 18 11:15:35 2013. Why are they scrapping M6's? |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 13:24:25 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 13:17:29 2013. Milford is south of New Haven. |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 13:32:21 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 13:24:25 2013. Southwest.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by J Trainloco on Sat May 18 13:32:45 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri May 17 19:29:34 2013. Would have been a lighter train hitting the derailed equipment too... |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat May 18 13:39:25 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 02:53:43 2013. Great for snow removal. |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 13:51:01 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 13:32:21 2013. South and west. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 13:58:13 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Joe V on Sat May 18 06:56:23 2013. Probably need more then 4.... those two trains set are OOS. |
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Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 14:06:46 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 13:21:20 2013. Cause some of them are no longer repairable. |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 14:08:07 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 13:24:25 2013. no Milford is West of New Haven, try using a map. |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by AlM on Sat May 18 14:13:54 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 14:08:07 2013. I would put it at South 60 degrees West, so you're both wrong. :) |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 14:15:42 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by AlM on Sat May 18 14:13:54 2013. http://www.bing.com/maps/#JnE9Lm1pbGZvcmQlMmJjdCU3ZXNzdC4wJTdlcGcuMSZiYj02My4zMTQ2MTI0MTI4MDAyJTdlLTE0Ljg2MTczMjQ4MiU3ZTguNjcyMTY1NTEwNDA5NDclN2UtMTMxLjc1NjI2MzczMg==learn to navigate its more west than south And official time table direction of Northeast Corridor from Philadelphia to Boston is East West. |
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M-8 car #9193 damage nose (on the ground) & other pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 14:15:59 2013, in response to Metro North Incident, posted by Jsun21 on Fri May 17 18:35:31 2013. Heavy damage of 9193, 9247 on the right Gov. Malloy  Missing part of a truck  Under the I-95, trackbed and rails ripped  9310  9247 on the other side looks ok. 
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Re: M-8 car #9193 damage nose (on the ground) & other pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 14:18:39 2013, in response to M-8 car #9193 damage nose (on the ground) & other pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 14:15:59 2013. The damage to front end is not really that bad, the metal you see is side wall of other train that got ripped open on impact |
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Re: Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by monorail on Sat May 18 14:19:19 2013, in response to Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri May 17 20:40:42 2013. 'Any questions????? 'Have u ever faked an orgasm? |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by AlM on Sat May 18 14:20:22 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 14:15:42 2013. learn to navigate its more west than southUm, do you know what South 60 degrees West means? It means more west than south, except it's more precise than that. And I don't care about official timetables. I'm writing in English on an internet message board, not writing a timetable. |
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Re: Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by monorail on Sat May 18 14:20:55 2013, in response to Re: Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat May 18 09:00:31 2013. perhaps it derailed near a cemetery and partially dug up a box.. |
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Re: Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 14:28:51 2013, in response to Re: Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident, posted by monorail on Sat May 18 14:19:19 2013. nope he gets real one while Conducting ;-) |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sat May 18 14:38:46 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 21:08:18 2013. I imagine that the warranty would only apply if it could be shown that the accident was caused by the failure or a warranteed part...If it was signals or employee error...I'd think no warranty coverage applies... |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 18 14:40:02 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 09:31:23 2013. Could Kawasaki rebuild one with a gender change ? |
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Re: Interior wreck M-8 pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sat May 18 14:42:02 2013, in response to Interior wreck M-8 pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 20:35:35 2013. Looks destroyed... |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 18 14:47:29 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 03:03:47 2013. Does the M-7 and M-8 have the same truck ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 18 14:48:51 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 21:20:05 2013. They could get 4 more Trailers. |
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Posted by CJ on Sat May 18 15:00:25 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 18 14:06:46 2013. That kind of reminds me of what happened with the 1950 built ACMUs. By the time the 1970s came they decided to retire them instead of repairing them. |
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Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 15:04:34 2013, in response to Re: Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 13:51:01 2013. Stop being cartesian :) your pal, Fred |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 15:21:36 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Joe V on Sat May 18 14:40:02 2013. Sure. Got Money? |
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Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 15:24:19 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 03:03:47 2013. NTSB is looking at it...
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NTSB press conference video - Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 15:43:44 2013, in response to NTSB press confrence - Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 11:59:41 2013. 11 AM press con (22 min Q&A):http://news12.cv.net/video/2101305180011297421_555809.flv (.flv "flash" format - about 500MB HD video) |
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