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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by MR RT on Mon May 6 07:02:49 2013, in response to Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri May 3 12:13:51 2013.

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Nope, they'll be red birds in different colors.

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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon May 6 07:29:11 2013, in response to Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 4 05:43:35 2013.

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Another reason why it ended up in the museum was due to service cuts.

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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by IRT/O on Mon May 6 10:09:33 2013, in response to Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Thu May 2 17:27:41 2013.

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I can't find any info on this. Hmmmmn.

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Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 6 12:03:24 2013, in response to Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri May 3 14:24:28 2013.

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A video posted to Facebook suggests that the cars that will be used are 6239, 5760, and 9306.

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Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 6 12:05:20 2013, in response to Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 6 12:03:24 2013.

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For those of you on Facebook, here's the link.

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Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Mon May 6 13:01:28 2013, in response to Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 6 12:03:24 2013.

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A video posted to Facebook suggests that the cars that will be used are 6239, 5760, and 9306.

That's the same train-set that operated on Track 1 on October 27, 2004, the 100th Anniversary of the opening of the subway.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Mon May 6 13:03:44 2013, in response to Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by IRT/O on Mon May 6 10:09:33 2013.

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I can't find any info on this.

Go to www.grandcentralterminal.com and look up the Centenial events. The only difference is that the web-site says it will be on track 4 whereas we know now that the special train will be on track 1.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by YoungNYCSubwayFan on Mon May 6 15:50:54 2013, in response to Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Mon May 6 13:03:44 2013.

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How do we know for sure that the train is going to be on Track 1 compared to track 4? Where is the proof for this?

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Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by chud1 on Mon May 6 16:27:05 2013, in response to Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 6 12:05:20 2013.

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A+ on that video.
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Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by murray1575 on Mon May 6 16:39:12 2013, in response to Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 6 12:03:24 2013.

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So presumably a regular c/r will use the door controls in one of the cabs of either 6239 or 9306?

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Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Grand concourse on Mon May 6 18:10:18 2013, in response to Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 6 12:05:20 2013.

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Well, looks like the r33wf will be one of the 3 cars after all.

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Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Grand concourse on Mon May 6 18:15:26 2013, in response to Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Grand concourse on Mon May 6 18:10:18 2013.

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Looks like the r17 isn't going to return 'home'.* french connection shuttle scene.

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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by IRT/O on Mon May 6 23:46:56 2013, in response to Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Mon May 6 13:03:44 2013.

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I can't find it. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by NJCL2308 on Tue May 7 00:52:30 2013, in response to Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by IRT/O on Mon May 6 10:09:33 2013.

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If you have a Facebook, look on the NYTM page. They put up a video of three cars leaving today, 9306/6239/5781(?), and the R721 (?) coming back in. They specifically stated that "these cars are going to be running on the shuttle."

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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Tue May 7 08:26:36 2013, in response to Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by YoungNYCSubwayFan on Mon May 6 15:50:54 2013.

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See for yourself Saturday. A friend of mine who will be working the train told me Track 1. GO should be out in a few more days so then you can have your proff and eat it too (Spelled incorrectly)

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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by William A. Padron on Tue May 7 13:46:37 2013, in response to Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by NJCL2308 on Tue May 7 00:52:30 2013.

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>>They put up a video of three cars leaving today, 9306/6239/5781(?), and the R721 (?) coming back in.<<

The R-12 from the museum is #5760. The R-21/22 has the number as OR714, with R-33ml cars #9010-11 as the placeholder at Court Street.

-William A. Padron
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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Stef on Tue May 7 14:42:16 2013, in response to Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by William A. Padron on Tue May 7 13:46:37 2013.

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It's odd that the Money Cars would be split. I thought they would always be displayed together. Guess not.... With 9010-11 in the Museum, 9016-17 and 9206-07 MUST be going down to track 1 with the three cars.

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Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by murray1575 on Tue May 7 17:40:20 2013, in response to Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Stef on Sat May 4 01:11:07 2013.

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I don't think that parking a train on one of those spur tracks is a good idea. Someone might decide to tag it. More than likely it will be put in one of the yards to await a return to normal service.

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Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by jrf2 on Tue May 7 19:38:40 2013, in response to Re: Track 1 not 4 e: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by murray1575 on Tue May 7 17:40:20 2013.

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A more expensive way---just run it all night !!!

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Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by TimG on Fri May 10 14:54:16 2013, in response to Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Thu May 2 17:27:41 2013.

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What time will the train be running?

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Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle - General Order??

Posted by YoungNYCSubwayFan on Fri May 10 17:57:46 2013, in response to Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by TimG on Fri May 10 14:54:16 2013.

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I believe starting at 8:00 AM.

Also, if at all possible, if someone can post all of the details from the General Order for this, myself and others would appreciate it.

Thanks!

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UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 10 23:21:56 2013, in response to Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Thu May 2 17:27:41 2013.

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Train is currently on track one, position just west of Grand Central Station. Car 5760 is at the Grand Central end of the consist. Presumably, 9306 is at the Times Square end.

You can kind of see 5760 in this photo taken a few minutes ago.
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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by 3-9 on Sat May 11 00:11:10 2013, in response to UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 10 23:21:56 2013.

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Not bad, getting the pic on the Internet after taking it in the tunnel!

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 11 00:43:57 2013, in response to UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 10 23:21:56 2013.

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So they're using 4 cars?

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Grand concourse on Sat May 11 01:13:21 2013, in response to Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 11 00:43:57 2013.

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I think it was still 3 as shown in the vid of the cars being moved from the musuem.

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat May 11 01:23:19 2013, in response to Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by 3-9 on Sat May 11 00:11:10 2013.

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More like looking into the tunnel from the end of the station platform, then cropping out all the unneeded bits.

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 11 03:15:25 2013, in response to Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 11 00:43:57 2013.

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Track 1 can only fit three cars at Times Square.

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 11 03:16:35 2013, in response to Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 11 03:15:25 2013.

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And even three is a crazy tight fit. Have you seen how close I have to stop to the bumping block? The fixed trip is barely inches from the trip cock.

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 11 03:19:10 2013, in response to Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 11 03:16:35 2013.

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Feh ... move over to B division and TRY to bring ten cars into Met. Dunno if they've moved the switches since the 70's, but it could ONLY be done with twenty beakies and lots of furious hand signals. More supervision than a train wreck and STILL you had to push the bumper over an inch or two to clear the points. :)

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 11 03:45:46 2013, in response to Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 11 03:15:25 2013.

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Than who got the short straw, 6609 or 6239?

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat May 11 09:34:54 2013, in response to UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 10 23:21:56 2013.

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What happen to the red lights in the headlight area that trains usually have when there not going anywhere? I noticed in this photo there turned off.

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by YoungNYCSubwayFan on Sat May 11 11:31:42 2013, in response to UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 10 23:21:56 2013.

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The R-17 6609 got the short straw, since it was not seen being taken out of the Transit Museum, nor was it in the Youtube videos that I just saw.

As far as the red lights in the headlight area, in an effort to 'hide' the train in the tunnel, they turned those off, in addition to everything else. This way, it would not be as noticeable.

This also made sense to move the train there Friday night, with the G.O. taking place along the Lexington Avenue Line.

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat May 11 19:05:35 2013, in response to Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 11 03:45:46 2013.

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat May 11 19:20:49 2013, in response to Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 11 03:19:10 2013.

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What was the maximum number of Steels you could fit into Met Ave?

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 11 19:24:19 2013, in response to Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat May 11 19:20:49 2013.

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Dunno ... 6 maybe?

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Re: UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon May 13 08:48:33 2013, in response to UPDATE Re: Vintage Trains to Run on the 42 St Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 10 23:21:56 2013.

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Track 1 still has the C/R Gap indication light.

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