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Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Stef on Mon Feb 25 00:08:26 2013

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Emergency GO for Tuesday Morning, no service on the 1 from Chambers to Rector. The Reason? A room at new SF is to be demolished to connect the mezzanine to the old SF platform. This is VERY INTERESTING.

FYI, Trains terminating at Chambers will go north from Track 1 and run Express to 14th, then resume local service.

Does anyone know when the loop switches will be restored to service? You can't do reroutes from the East Side to the West Side and vice versa until they are restored...

-Stef

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Feb 25 00:40:15 2013, in response to Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Stef on Mon Feb 25 00:08:26 2013.

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Hm, wonder what and where the room is?

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Feb 25 00:47:12 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by 3-9 on Mon Feb 25 00:40:15 2013.

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Look at 0:45, north end of the station.


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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Feb 25 01:08:33 2013, in response to Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Stef on Mon Feb 25 00:08:26 2013.

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If the platform gap fillers can operate (pneumatically), then they can throw, block and clamp the switches, that is unless they ruined that portion of the IRT and removed the A-10 air engines with electric ones that won't work since the maintainers were still working in the T/D booth in the video. They maybe can still be cranked by hand but if the control lines were removed due to salt water, RCC can't see those trains anyway so they are not in a real hurry to do much more than keep Cuomo happy and get the first five cars opening again. See what happens in the next few months when they start writing their crazy G.O.s

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by South Ferry on Mon Feb 25 02:36:01 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Gold_12th on Mon Feb 25 00:47:12 2013.

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BLISS!! Thank you.

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Neil Feldman on Mon Feb 25 16:47:32 2013, in response to Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Stef on Mon Feb 25 00:08:26 2013.

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Wow kinda wierd they are connecting the old station to the mezzanine, but also good in a way because for instance if a GO other than of coarse this came up, this station can be used and obviously keeping the transfer to the R! Another thing is also the old entrance which you could gain access through the Ferry terminal was very narrow! Now I don't know what they will do for handicapped access, but its good what they did here!

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Feb 25 17:01:58 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Neil Feldman on Mon Feb 25 16:47:32 2013.

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Now I don't know what they will do for handicapped access

As for entering the station, it's as trivial as building a ramp.

As for boarding the train, a platform conductor with a bridge plate, perhaps?

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Feb 25 17:07:45 2013, in response to Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Stef on Mon Feb 25 00:08:26 2013.

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I will take a look by the ferry terminal to see if anything unusual is happening.

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Train2104 on Mon Feb 25 18:14:27 2013, in response to Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Stef on Mon Feb 25 00:08:26 2013.

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If the old station were restored to use as a passenger stop with the same capacity as it had before it closed in 2009, would there need to be any rush hour 1 trips canceled or short turned?

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Feb 25 18:35:31 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Feb 25 17:01:58 2013.

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I was wondering if the gap fillers were flush enough with the train for simple wheelchair boarding. I don't recall.

Never mind, I just checked an old video I took. There's a slight gap still, and a sizable height difference.

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Feb 25 18:36:46 2013, in response to Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Stef on Mon Feb 25 00:08:26 2013.

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They're taking down that unused storage room at the leaving end of the old station, which happens to be right next to the infamous door to the new station's mezzanine. I suppose this is how they will widen the passage.

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EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Feb 26 22:54:53 2013, in response to Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Stef on Mon Feb 25 00:08:26 2013.

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Here's an exclusive first lopk attached what may be the beginning of the new entrance to the old SF loop. Good night all.



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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by FarRock on Wed Feb 27 02:20:28 2013, in response to EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Feb 26 22:54:53 2013.

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Keep the old station and use the new station as a reef.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by MTA T on Wed Feb 27 02:23:38 2013, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by FarRock on Wed Feb 27 02:20:28 2013.

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+9000

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by VictorM on Wed Feb 27 02:43:44 2013, in response to EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Feb 26 22:54:53 2013.

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Thanks for the photo. It appears to be between the escalator and stairs going to the new station. They'll also be able to restore the transfer between the 1 and R. I hope they were able to save the artwork on that wall.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Feb 27 04:38:26 2013, in response to EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Feb 26 22:54:53 2013.

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The image isn't loading for me...

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Feb 27 04:45:06 2013, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by FarRock on Wed Feb 27 02:20:28 2013.

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Better would be how I would do it:

Keep both stations and do whatever ADA access is necessary at Bowling Green (which would be a good idea anyway) so the Lexington line can use the old loop station once the current station can start taking the (1) again. To me, it's worth doing so SI riders have the option on weekdays of taking the BG-SF shuttle to BG or walking and in off-hours (and most weekends) being able to take the (6) (and when not running to Brooklyn, the (5) as well) from old SF directly uptown without having to walk to BG switch from the (R) at Canal or 14th Street.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Feb 27 12:18:36 2013, in response to EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Feb 26 22:54:53 2013.

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EXCELLENT!!

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by R160A A Train on Wed Feb 27 12:54:00 2013, in response to EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Feb 26 22:54:53 2013.

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Ok, is it me or does it really make sense to spend money on a temporary stop gap that is going to be closed again? When you can take the money and resources being used here and maybe divert them to the new South Ferry station to maybe get a quicker return time?

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (3/1/13)

Posted by Stef on Wed Feb 27 13:47:09 2013, in response to Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Stef on Mon Feb 25 00:08:26 2013.

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In effect again Friday, same routine.

-Stef

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Feb 27 14:00:00 2013, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Feb 27 04:38:26 2013.

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I don't know but everyone seems to be loading the picture. I could be wrong, but photobucket might bar ip addresses outside the U.S. or you are using a different browser.


Are you viewing the page from a computer or portable device other than laptop?

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Feb 27 14:00:50 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by G1Ravage on Mon Feb 25 18:36:46 2013.

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You cen hear the screeching of the 1 trains rounding the loop, as if the "passage" is now open.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Feb 27 14:01:48 2013, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by G1Ravage on Wed Feb 27 12:18:36 2013.

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Thanks. I was standing from public space neat to the Whitehal/SF escalators to the ferry - - and poked my arm through the bars so I can get the pic.

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TEAR DOWN SF TERMINAL (Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13))

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Feb 27 14:09:59 2013, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Feb 27 04:45:06 2013.

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:-)

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Feb 27 14:15:52 2013, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by R160A A Train on Wed Feb 27 12:54:00 2013.

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Yes, considering how long the regular station will be out of action, and how it doesn't seem that much to get the new station back in shape.
You're also assuming that the resources and money will help the regular station back in shape.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Feb 27 14:33:35 2013, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by VictorM on Wed Feb 27 02:43:44 2013.

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I don't know about the artwork - - "Manhattan Island" must have taken a pretty big punch from Sandy's wrath.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Feb 27 15:00:58 2013, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Feb 27 14:00:00 2013.

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I'm on a laptop with Firefox, but I just got it to show up in IE. Strange...

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 27 15:14:19 2013, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Feb 27 14:00:00 2013.

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I don't know but everyone seems to be loading the picture. I could be wrong, but photobucket might bar ip addresses outside the U.S. or you are using a different browser.

It didn't work for me on Firefox from within the U.S. I copied and pasted the address to see it.

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Train2104 on Wed Feb 27 16:08:52 2013, in response to Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Stef on Mon Feb 25 00:08:26 2013.

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Major GO's involving South Ferry are coming...

Tonight-Tomorrow morning (2345-0500): Downtown 2 via Lex, downtown 5 via 7 Av then REVENUE around the loop!

Thursday night-Friday morning (2345-0500): Busing Chambers-SF

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Stef on Wed Feb 27 16:56:28 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Train2104 on Wed Feb 27 16:08:52 2013.

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Thank You......

-Stef

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Feb 27 20:09:30 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Train2104 on Wed Feb 27 16:08:52 2013.

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Are they flipflopping as they go around the loop; i. e., 2 uptown via 7th Ave. and 5 uptown via Lex?

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Feb 27 20:12:04 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Gold_12th on Mon Feb 25 00:47:12 2013.

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Looks as if they've cleaned up that station very well.

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Train2104 on Wed Feb 27 20:59:26 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Feb 27 20:09:30 2013.

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The 5 is running in a huge loop, down 7 Av, around SF, and back up Lex.

The 2 is running to/from Flatbush both ways.

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Stef on Wed Feb 27 21:09:56 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Train2104 on Wed Feb 27 20:59:26 2013.

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5's are local 96th to Chambers Sts., a station stop at Rector, then to Bowling Green for the west side crowd that needs to go to Bklyn....

2's are express from Atlantic to Franklin as will the 4, due to a switch machine replacement north of Atlantic.

Sounds like a plan....

-Stef

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Re: EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by LRG5784 on Wed Feb 27 23:54:14 2013, in response to EXCLUSIVE SF PHOTO (Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Feb 26 22:54:53 2013.

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This is great!

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Feb 28 01:19:09 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Train2104 on Wed Feb 27 16:08:52 2013.

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What?! Oh wow, this emergency G/O came out of nowhere!

I guess this proves that the inner/outer loop switches are actually back in service....

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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Michael549 on Thu Feb 28 02:01:16 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Train2104 on Wed Feb 27 20:59:26 2013.

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From a previous message: "The 5 is running in a huge loop, down 7 Av, around SF, and back up Lex. The 2 is running to/from Flatbush both ways. "

In previous additions of this kind of G.O. - when #5 trains ran down 4th Seventh Avenue (from the Bronx), around South Ferry, and then back up to the Bronx via the Lexington Avenue line - #2 trains from Brooklyn running to the Bronx ran their normal route and tracks. That is that #2 ran down Lexington (from the Bronx) - traveling just like a #5 train to Brooklyn. Unless stations like Park Place, Fulton Street or Wall Street were closed - it was the uptown #2 trains that provided at least some service - unless those stations were closed.

If - because it is not clear in this stream of messages - if the #2 train is running solely on Lexington Avenue in both directions (uptown and downtown) by #2 trains - then some stations are closed for that period.

Really just wondering.
Mike



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Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13)

Posted by Stef on Thu Feb 28 02:12:58 2013, in response to Re: Emergency GO on the 1 (2/26/13), posted by Michael549 on Thu Feb 28 02:01:16 2013.

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The 2 is running on Lexington Avenue Southbound Only.

-Stef

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