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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Feb 13 04:46:24 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 12 19:07:11 2013.

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That's the only time the old BG-SF shuttle would be running, and then only when there is not enough capacity to send the (6) to BG and old SF.

The part forgotten in my plan is the (6) would also head into lower Manhattan during off hours, which would seriously increase off-hour service between BB and BG to an area that has become much more heavily residential in recent years.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Feb 13 04:54:21 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 19:09:30 2013.

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Too bad SubTalk didn't have a reef.

IAWTP. It was a very funny thread. Some people got seriously annoyed that anyone — even an idiot like E_DOG — was proposing to TEAR DOWN THE ASTORIA EL!

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Feb 13 05:01:35 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 12 18:53:35 2013.

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And halve the throughput. Do you really want the 1 train running only 10tph or so?

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Feb 13 06:45:02 2013, in response to So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 03:08:03 2013.

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How much did the station detriorate in less than 4 years? Also, why were the gap fillers removed...

Seems to me that t wouldn't have been that hard to keep the station in good condition. I could understand if it got dusty and few flourescent bulbs died...but there seems to have been some partial demolition....

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Feb 13 06:46:12 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Grand concourse on Tue Feb 12 10:32:28 2013.

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This could turn out to be his second major wish that comes true!!!

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 13 17:22:23 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Feb 13 05:01:35 2013.

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Oh come on, think it through.
An extra 30 second stop.
Do you see how inefficient the stub terminal is ? Trains lay up for 5 - 10 minutes. It had to cost them a trainset or two.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 13 17:38:35 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by MainR3664 on Wed Feb 13 06:45:02 2013.

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Somebody said here a few days ago that the gap fillers did not get removed.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Feb 13 18:28:31 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 13 17:38:35 2013.

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But this is Subchat reality. The gap fillers got taken to 76/Pitkin, remember.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Feb 14 01:25:04 2013, in response to Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 16:10:58 2013.

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IAWTP

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 14 10:09:35 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Feb 12 12:14:29 2013.

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Well, judging from that document, the connection would be near the platform escalators to the left of the turnstiles nearest the escalators near the ferry terminal.

Given that, I think that I see the connection in the embedded video.



Look starting at 7:48 at that door in the distance. I think that could be it.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Feb 14 14:29:33 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 14 10:09:35 2013.

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Yes, that's the door. Takes you to the 10-car marker of the old station.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Feb 14 14:31:36 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Thu Feb 14 14:29:33 2013.

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Wait, I need to blow it up and see it on my home computer before judging. Hard to tell on my phone.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 14 15:51:31 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by monorail on Tue Feb 12 15:02:39 2013.

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I can understand any transit worker not wanting to spend his off time photographing trains. Unless you're obsessed with them ...

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 14 17:22:40 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Thu Feb 14 14:31:36 2013.

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Well, I made the trip downtown today, and was curious about that door. Almost everything associated with the IRT station was boarded up, but I did notice one bit near the elevator that wasn't. I went over and looked for the door through the fence, and behold!

It's Open!
It's Open!

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by J Trainloco on Thu Feb 14 17:39:24 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 14 17:22:40 2013.

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Bingo.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by grand concourse on Thu Feb 14 19:00:50 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by MainR3664 on Wed Feb 13 06:46:12 2013.

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What will the 3rd wish be? the boosted A service for the Racino?

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Feb 14 22:42:57 2013, in response to Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 16:10:58 2013.

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BIAS


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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Feb 14 22:46:56 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 13 17:38:35 2013.

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K- thanks.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 14 22:49:04 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Feb 14 22:42:57 2013.

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Yeah! :)

That was CLASSIC!

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by monorail on Thu Feb 14 22:49:35 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by J Trainloco on Thu Feb 14 17:39:24 2013.

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Beach Blanket?

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Feb 14 22:59:03 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 14 22:49:04 2013.

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As robust as a banana.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 14 23:05:46 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Feb 14 22:59:03 2013.

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Indeed! :)



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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 15 00:06:12 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Feb 13 04:54:21 2013.

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Too bad Subtalk didn't have an OTTalk board too. Woulda kept the nasty political stuff off the main board.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri Feb 15 04:31:09 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 14 10:09:35 2013.

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That's brilliant! Thanks.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri Feb 15 04:34:30 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 14 17:22:40 2013.

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So where the art is along that wall is boxing in the rest of the width of the connection. I see now. From the plan, I'd expected the door to be roughly at right angles to what it is, but the wall is false.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri Feb 15 04:43:06 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 14 23:05:46 2013.

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And whatever happened to the dancing padlock?

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 15 05:18:10 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by grand concourse on Thu Feb 14 19:00:50 2013.

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LOL!!!!

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Feb 15 06:14:24 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Feb 14 22:42:57 2013.

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That guy...was nuts.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Feb 15 13:17:23 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 19:08:37 2013.

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Yeah, it is.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 15 18:10:20 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri Feb 15 04:43:06 2013.

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Alive and well, but it got traded in for a simple password protection. :)



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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Feb 15 20:40:39 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 12 11:22:32 2013.

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WITH DIRECT NON-STOP SERVICE TO AQUEDUCT.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by menJop on Sat Feb 16 21:02:31 2013, in response to So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 03:08:03 2013.

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Here's what old South Ferry looks like as of a couple of hours ago.

They're working down there, and things look pretty tidy. You can't see it in the video, but the gap fillers seem to be intact -- the parts that you step on anyway; can't comment on the mechanism.

The door to the new part of the station is visible at the end. The passage is narrow and has a couple of steps. I think it might require some nontrivial construction before that could be used an entrance...

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Feb 16 21:04:39 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by menJop on Sat Feb 16 21:02:31 2013.

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'This video is private'

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by LRG5784 on Sat Feb 16 21:10:07 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by Grand concourse on Sat Feb 16 21:04:39 2013.

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Yeah I can't see it either.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by menJop on Sat Feb 16 21:18:08 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by LRG5784 on Sat Feb 16 21:10:07 2013.

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Oops. Fixed.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Feb 16 21:28:12 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by menJop on Sat Feb 16 21:18:08 2013.

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Yup, works now. Nice!

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by Train2104 on Sat Feb 16 22:34:56 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by menJop on Sat Feb 16 21:02:31 2013.

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A few questions of the video...

-The door to the new part of the station appears to be an afterthought. There appears to be tile and concrete block just ripped off the wall to throw that door in there.

-Where does the former main entrance lead to today?

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Feb 17 01:16:55 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by Train2104 on Sat Feb 16 22:34:56 2013.

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To answer the only question in your comment, the former main entrance steps lead to nothing but this.

They're putting a couple of food establishments in the space where the subway entrance was in the ferry terminal.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by Fulton Frank on Sun Feb 17 07:53:31 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by menJop on Sat Feb 16 21:02:31 2013.

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Nice work. Where do those stairs up before and after the dispatchers office go?

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Feb 17 08:51:53 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by menJop on Sat Feb 16 21:02:31 2013.

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Nice! They're not putting up new tiles for nothing. Something's happening here.

What's the deal with the worker lying on that bench like a homeless person?

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by menJop on Sun Feb 17 14:05:05 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by Fulton Frank on Sun Feb 17 07:53:31 2013.

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Thanks. Those are the original entry/exit stairs connecting to the ferry terminal. Word on this board is that that space is being converted to retail of some sort.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by LRG5784 on Sun Feb 17 14:11:26 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by menJop on Sat Feb 16 21:18:08 2013.

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Just saw it. Looks good, can't wait till it reopens !

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 17 14:17:05 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by LRG5784 on Sun Feb 17 14:11:26 2013.

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The only problem seems how to get access to it.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Feb 17 14:40:40 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 14 17:22:40 2013.

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Yes, that's the door.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Feb 17 14:49:20 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by Train2104 on Sat Feb 16 22:34:56 2013.

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-Where does the former main entrance lead to today?

Last I checked, it was divided up. One half still goes to where the former ferry terminal entrance mezzanine was located, but is currently being turned into retail space, apparently.

The other half was walled off and leads to some office space that was built, with a door leading to the bus loop just outside the terminal.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Feb 17 15:11:33 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 14 17:22:40 2013.

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Wait, something's not right here. That door used to open INTO the loop station....

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 17 15:13:36 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Sun Feb 17 15:11:33 2013.

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IT'S A WITCH!

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Feb 17 17:58:31 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Sun Feb 17 14:40:40 2013.

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So what are we waiting for? Sledgehammer the cinderblock and build a timber ramp!

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*]

Posted by menJop on Sun Feb 17 17:59:45 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry.... [*fresh video*], posted by LRG5784 on Sun Feb 17 14:11:26 2013.

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Hey now, I only posted a video -- I never said it was gonna reopen. I'm just an avid lurker here; I don't take positions :-)

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by menJop on Sun Feb 17 18:22:11 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Sun Feb 17 15:11:33 2013.

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Interesting. Compare my video from yesterday to this video, from last month. If you look really closely, in the older video there's a doorknob on the right-hand side of the door. Looks like it used to open right-to-left, presumably into the loop station.

There's no "authorized personnel" sign in the old video either. This is also consistent with them flipping the door around -- presumably in that older video the sign is on the other side, where it would have warned people in the open area not to attempt to enter the closed area. Where it is now makes no sense.

I wonder why they would flip the door around.

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