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So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 03:08:03 2013

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My old partner on the (1) line reports that the old station has new tiles on the walls (which don't match the existing tiles higher up the wall), and the dispatcher's office appears to have been cleaned up.

COULD IT BE!?!?!?!?!!

You're all allowed to ride the (1) through the loop, so I'm not sure why no one has bothered to go and take some more recent photos down there....

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by monorail on Tue Feb 12 03:14:18 2013, in response to So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 03:08:03 2013.

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waiting for you to do so

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by South FERRY on Tue Feb 12 03:15:51 2013, in response to So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 03:08:03 2013.

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+9.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 12 04:04:58 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by South FERRY on Tue Feb 12 03:15:51 2013.

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Sadly, I don't think the 9 will be stopping at South Ferry even if the old station is reopened.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 04:16:10 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by monorail on Tue Feb 12 03:14:18 2013.

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I have a job.

You're retired.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Abba on Tue Feb 12 04:31:48 2013, in response to So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 03:08:03 2013.

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I say by shavuot the old station reopens to passengers.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Feb 12 05:39:52 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 12 04:04:58 2013.

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RIMSHOT!

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Feb 12 05:41:23 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 04:16:10 2013.

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Rimshot!

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Feb 12 10:32:28 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Abba on Tue Feb 12 04:31:48 2013.

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Get the mop ready for wallyhorse.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Feb 12 10:35:18 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Grand concourse on Tue Feb 12 10:32:28 2013.

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Remember, everyone: Only the first 5 cars!

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Feb 12 10:36:48 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Feb 12 10:35:18 2013.

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Ugh. Wonder where they're going to put the entrance.

The old entrance (inside the ferry terminal) is being converted into a retail space by the DOT.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 12 10:38:54 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Grand concourse on Tue Feb 12 10:32:28 2013.

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LOL. He might flood the loop station with the foam.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Feb 12 10:46:51 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 12 10:38:54 2013.

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+1

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Feb 12 10:56:15 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Feb 12 10:36:48 2013.

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According to these posts, there is a connection between the loop station platform and the new station's mezzanine, located near the front (T/O position) of the loop station. They could simply keep the new station's mezz (including the transfer to the BMT) and divert everyone to the loop station using that connection.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Feb 12 11:04:21 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 12 10:38:54 2013.

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But is it fresh foam or sea foam?

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 12 11:22:32 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Feb 12 10:56:15 2013.

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OK, good, then they can KEEP THE LOOP STATION OPEN and use it as a terminal for the Lexington trains after the main station is repaired! </Wallyhorse>

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Feb 12 11:33:05 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Feb 12 10:56:15 2013.

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Are there any floorplans of the station (from the planning materials or something)?

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Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Feb 12 11:39:58 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 12 11:22:32 2013.

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It's not the best news you've heard of in a long time?

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Feb 12 11:43:07 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Feb 12 11:33:05 2013.

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Not that I know of, but there is a nice track map.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Feb 12 11:58:35 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 12 11:22:32 2013.

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ROTFL

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Feb 12 12:14:29 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Feb 12 11:43:07 2013.

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Found something useful myself. Now I'm going through all of the photos I can find of the mezzanine, cursing people for zooming in on the artwork...

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by J Trainloco on Tue Feb 12 12:42:35 2013, in response to So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 03:08:03 2013.

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A former MOW employee who works with me now confirmed that they are preparing Tue old station for service. I would just like to point out that the entrance that everyone is taking about between the old station and the new one is through a 3' wide doorway.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Feb 12 12:48:57 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by J Trainloco on Tue Feb 12 12:42:35 2013.

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Thanks. I can stop looking for pics of the door now.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by grand concourse on Tue Feb 12 13:04:33 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 12 11:22:32 2013.

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lmao, no it's for the BG shuttle.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by monorail on Tue Feb 12 13:19:46 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 04:16:10 2013.

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when I had a job I still got photos
you get days off

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 13:20:29 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by monorail on Tue Feb 12 13:19:46 2013.

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He works on trains. Why would he spend his days off on trains. When I worked at Morgan Stanley, I never spent my days off at the post office.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Lord Vader on Tue Feb 12 13:29:20 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 13:20:29 2013.

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TRUTH!!!!!

Vader

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 13:50:21 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Feb 12 05:39:52 2013.

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LOL You guys....

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 13:52:48 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by J Trainloco on Tue Feb 12 12:42:35 2013.

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I'm sure that door can be removed, and the entrance widened a bit.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Feb 12 14:03:05 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 12 13:52:48 2013.

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Sure.

BREAK OUT THE SLEDGEHAMMER!



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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by monorail on Tue Feb 12 15:02:39 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 13:20:29 2013.

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he's the one who wants photos of it.....


'Why would he spend his days off on trains.'

I'm sure many people here do.........


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Oh, not this old meme. (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 12 15:53:52 2013, in response to Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train Re: So umm -- about South Ferry..., posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Feb 12 11:39:58 2013.

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If we're going to be reviving the "Great News" meme, then I'll dig into the archive of dead memes and start posting Nilet Railroad system updates.

-Effective March 17th, service will be discontinued on the Orient Line from Däne to Meridon City. Nilet Railroad tickets for points east of Däne will be honoured on Eastern Spider trains, but only grudgingly.
-Effective April 15th, Cricket Star Express fares will increase by 35/ in First Class and 50/ in Executive Class for travel between Dethrox City and Däne and by 15/50 in First Class and 30/ in Executive Class for travel between intermediate or non-corridor points.
-Effective April 15th, a Transfer Charge of 5/50 will be applied to all Beetle tickets for continuous journeys requiring a transfer where Firefly Express service is available without transfer. If a ticket incurring a Transfer Charge is used on a Firefly Express train, the amount of the Transfer Charge will be credited against the Step-Up Fare.
-Due to construction at Däne's South Business District terminal, non-corridor Beetle trains bound for Däne will terminate at Tarmy Junction - Mistiff Terminal. Firefly Express service will make additional stops at Talif, Malaby, and Banbrinstin, and Beetle tickets will be honoured on Firefly Express trains without surcharge for travel between Tarmy Junction and Däne during construction.
-Effective March 31st, the City of Anaday will be discontinued and replaced with a Cricket Star Express train which runs through from Däne to Anaday, running according to the same schedule as the City of Anaday between Märkesh and Anaday.
-Effective March 31st, GETP passengers must purchase an adult ticket to travel on Nilet Railroad.

-Effective March 31st, Nilet Railroad will modify its fare categories to simplify its fares and provide a single unified fare scheme. Under the modified rules:

--Beetle trains will continue to offer only one class of service, at a lower fare than Firefly Express trains.
--Firefly Express service will offer Coach and Business class service. Beetle tickets will be honoured in coach class on Firefly trains upon payment of a flat 7/50 step-up fare.
--Cricket Star Express trains will offer First and Executive class service by reservation only.
--All trains will be classified as Beetle, Firefly, or Cricket services. The former designations of Commuter, Commuter Plus, Premium Express, Connector, and City Of service will be retired, and the Traveler's Plus, Premium, Club, and other classes of service will be reclassified.

On an equipment standpoint, it seems all heritage cars have been retired from service. Zone G has been completely re-signaled to Nilet Railroad standards, so the ex-Gillibrait fleet is long gone. Some of the cars have been sold to Far North railroad, but alas, all of the former goldbar lounge cars have been scrapped. The ex-Southern cars that had been running on Dänetrain appear to have vanished; an engineer at Simal-Nora claimed they were rented, not purchased; they were returned to Nilet Railroad at the conclusion of the lease and were subsequently scrapped.

Beetle service is now using mostly Model 72 MU trains with their ugly yellow paint scheme but a few branch lines are still running refurbished 69A cars. The original Model 69 and the Model 66 cars have all since been scrapped. Firefly Express service is run with S130 and S131 trainsets, plus the occasional S129 (which is actually just an S127 or S128 after GOH). Cricket Star Express trains are still using the well-worn Cityliner trains but new trains are on order from Fulisama Industries and expected to enter service in early 2014. The Commuter and Commuter Plus services are no longer using dedicated equipment, with trains for those services being supplied out of the standard Beetle and Firefly pools respectively, which is to be expected as they get reclassified at the end of March. The MK1 and MK2 PES trains are all retired from service; Premium and City Of trains are now equipped out of the Firefly Express pool; an initial harbinger of things to come, it now seems certain that Premium and City Of trains will be downgraded to unnamed, unreserved Firefly connections. The MK3 PES trains are still running, but they're being used for local service on the Orient Line which is slated for closure, so it's extremely likely that they'll be retired when Eastern Spider takes over the Orient Line.

Figures it's fairly boring now. I wish I'd more chances to ride the old heritage equipment, but then I might as well wish I'd ridden the old railroads prior to the Nilet takeover. Or at least the chance to ride the old Model 54 MUs with the RFWs. At least I got one ride on a Southern Railroad local train from Malik to Gravastan; after the merger, Nilet Railroad shut down that route entirely.

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Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 16:10:58 2013, in response to Oh, not this old meme. (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 12 15:53:52 2013.

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X, that is great news, Y is probably the greatest Subtalk/chat meme ever. Don't disrespect it.

Some others:

- tear down the Astoria el
- proff


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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by LRG5784 on Tue Feb 12 16:15:26 2013, in response to Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 16:10:58 2013.

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I know about the "great news" meme, but when did the Astoria El and "proff" slogans start?

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 16:22:46 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by LRG5784 on Tue Feb 12 16:15:26 2013.

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TDTAE dates to Subtalk, probably 2000-1, in response to some news article about some group wanting to demolish the el in Astoria. It became the standard response to stupid, anti-transit proposals.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 12 16:30:02 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 16:22:46 2013.

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Wasn't it salaamallah that (unintentionally?) originated "proff"?

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Fred G on Tue Feb 12 17:38:07 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 12 16:30:02 2013.

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Yes, exactly.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Feb 12 17:46:21 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Grand concourse on Tue Feb 12 10:32:28 2013.

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LOL!!!

As said many times, I would NEVER have closed old SF in the first place, but instead turned it over to the Lexington Avenue line.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 12 18:02:56 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Fred G on Tue Feb 12 17:38:07 2013.

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And it's become one of our favorite phrases. :)

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 12 18:53:35 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Feb 12 10:35:18 2013.

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So double-spot the train
BFD

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 18:55:54 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 16:22:46 2013.

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That wasn't the story. It was the possible terrorist* E_DOG who called it an "Archie Bunker Line" and wanted it torn down for no good reason.

*Not really, but one wonders.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 19:00:10 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 18:55:54 2013.

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TDTAE is older than that.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 19:00:54 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 12 18:02:56 2013.

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I've used it elsewhere, with usually puzzled responses.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 12 19:07:11 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Feb 12 17:46:21 2013.

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For your BG shuttle when the 5 goes to Brooklyn ?

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 19:08:37 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 19:00:10 2013.

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No, it's not.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 19:09:30 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 19:08:37 2013.

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I was on SubTalk too and created "Tear Down the East River" as a farcical response.

Too bad SubTalk didn't have a reef.

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Feb 12 19:16:21 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 19:09:30 2013.

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Well, there's this. BTW, George Foelschow's Amazon review of his book is kind of amusing. ("[I]t reminded me of something written by a college freshman for a beginning English composition class.")

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 12 19:51:11 2013, in response to Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 19:00:54 2013.

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That's why it's uniquely OURS! Thanks, Salaam! :)

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Re: Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 12 22:31:42 2013, in response to Subchat memes: (Re: Nilet, that is great news, replacing the 1 train with the 5 train...), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 12 16:10:58 2013.

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Don't disrespect it

Let's see if he has the character to do that.

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Re: So umm -- about South Ferry....

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Feb 13 04:43:40 2013, in response to Re: So umm -- about South Ferry...., posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Feb 12 14:03:05 2013.

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But what about the art?! :-P

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