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PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012

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If you were to subscribe to a certain railfan's e-mail feed you might think the SEPTA system consisted of exactly two stations, 30th St and Temple University. Well I'm always one to try anything once so as I had never actually been to Temple University Station before I contacted Chuchubob and he agreed to accompany me there on the Friday afternoon before the last official Farewell to the Silverliner II/III trip. The premise of this set of photos us fairly simple. I went out to Temple University at about 4pm and stayed there until 6pm with the idea that in such a span of time all of the remaining Silverliener II and III cars would at some point pass by.

Of course were lots of other equipment heading through there including SL-IV's, SL-V's and the Bomber sets. These and some photos of the signal bridge at the north end of the station can all be found here.

In addition to photos I took some video to, but since there isn't much special about any one particular Silverliner IV pulling into the Temple station I arranged all of the dull ones into this nifty montage.



We begin with a three car SL-IV train inbound with #352 on point.



Another three car train with 157, 158 and single unit 409.



R7 train with #338 in the lead.



If you take your picture at just the right time you can catch some of the MP 2.4 automatic signals displaying a rare double green clear during the switch between Approach Medium and Clear.



So you don't have to go out there yourself I grabbed some video of this phenomena.



The SL-V's were also out in force such as this 4 car example with one married pair and two singles including #716.



Finally, about 30 minutes in, the first train of Silverliner II's appeared, but it was a mixed set of 3 II's and 2 IV's with 9013 in the lead. The reason for this strange mashup can be surmised by the fact that the second SL-II has its pan dropped and was running dead. SEPTA could not afford the loss of even this one unit due to its car shortage and thus attacked a IV pair to provide some extra pushing power.



All three of the II's were Readings with 9009 and 9006 joining 9013. 0009 was the one with its pan dropped.





A short while later the first of the Bomber sets showed up with the AEM-7 that seems to be stalking me, #2303.



Here we see a pair of SL-IV's headed in opposite directions with #401 and #395. #395 is sporting the ultra rare Claymont, DE destination signs.



Here we see a 5-car SL-V train with #708.



Inbound Bomber set with #2307.



Finally what would prove to be the headline act for that day a 6-car express train of old cars pulls in on track #4. It just narrowly misses being the famed "six pack of Budd" due to the inclusion of Silverliner III #235, however with 9001 in the lead, followed by 235 and then PRR car #266 it was clear that after this trainset got back after its express run to Newark those three cars would be split off for the following day's Farewell Charter and that was exactly what happened.



The Ultimate Silverliner II, #9010 was also in this trainset along with the Ultimate Silverliner III #235.





#266 was between them so it was not going to be a prequel to the June 29th last run.



#9001 was representing up front signed as a Newark double express!!



Completing the set were #216 and #Ox100 seen here in this video of the train departing.



#0x100 heading down the Reading viaduct.



Of course the parade of replacements weren't about to let up. Here we have another 5 car SL-V train with #824.



#2304 with an outbound bomber set. Is it just me or do all of the SEPTA AEM-7's have mismatched numberboards.



The new old and the new new. SL-IV #113 next to SL-V #827.



Longest MU train of the evening was this 7 car set of SL-IV's with #446.



That was soon followed by the shorted MU train. this 2 car set with #448.



Longest SL-V train was this 6-car set with #838.



At the height of the rush hour things began to get a little congested on the Reading viaduct as seen by this video of trains following eachother permissively.

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What should be the last Penn Central SL-IV car delivered departs on track #4 with an R7 train to Trenton.



This came in close proximity to the first Reading SL-IV married part with #101 arriving with an R7 train to Chestnut Hill East.



As it was getting late and also pretty clear that there wiuld be no more SL-II or SL-III trains I got this photo of Bomber cab car #2402.



Last photo of the day is of an inbound 4-car train with SL-IV #396.



And in the last video of the day we see a SEPTA BSS express train relaying at Walnut-Locust with SEPTA devil car #666.



Well hope that was enjoyable because unlike some other people when I get out to Temple University its actually noteworthy ;-) Anyway, next week tune in for the Farewell II the Silverliner II Charter II.



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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 15:01:03 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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since there isn't much special about any one particular Silverliner IV pulling into the Temple station

Wait until the "Farewell To Silverliner IV" trips.

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 15:08:08 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 15:01:03 2012.

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I don't know...I still have trouble getting excited about them as they are just so generic. The interiors are modern, they have modern features like dynamic brakes, automatic doors and a PA system and they aren't as railfan friendly as the V's,

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by chud1 on Sun Aug 19 15:18:19 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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A+ on pictures and video's.
chud1

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 15:30:28 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 15:08:08 2012.

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How does that make them "generic"? For that term to apply, then there would have to be similar trainsets on just about every commuter railroad in the contiguous 48 states. There are not. The only other agencies to run similar trainsets were NJT and MARC. (The NICTD single-level EMUs with center door removed are not similar except possibly in appearance.)

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 19 15:37:21 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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Nice pics!

Why is #9010 the Ultimate S-II?

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 19 15:42:06 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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very nice, Mike. particularly liked the final BSS vid. never have liked the exterior look of the IVs or the similar Arrows But, then I like the look of the M 8s so...

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 16:02:37 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 19 15:37:21 2012.

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It ended up being the last one running.

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 19 17:39:58 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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Very nice.

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 19 18:38:40 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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Very nice pics!

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 18:45:01 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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Great stuff! That's a wonderful fanning spot.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 19 18:52:00 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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great photos

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 19 19:35:21 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 16:02:37 2012.

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OIC

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 19:54:00 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 18:45:01 2012.

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It gets a bit repetitive after two hours and without the old cars that is especially true.

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 19:55:43 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 15:30:28 2012.

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I can't tell you anything about them that makes them special except for who built them. They're like the R44/46's.

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by WillD on Sun Aug 19 22:40:04 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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Excellent photos and good video. But it really illustrates just how big a failure SEPTA's dumping of the R# structure is when they have the wasted space on the Silverliner V's destination sign that now exists solely to indicate express trains. Bring back the R# system!

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 22:48:17 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by WillD on Sun Aug 19 22:40:04 2012.

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I assume you are referring to this photo?



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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by WillD on Sun Aug 19 23:22:17 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 22:48:17 2012.

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Actually I was referring to something I'd noticed in ChuChuBob's photos after I'd already commented his thread so I just waited for someone else to post images of Silverliner Vs so I could complain about it. :)

But yes, that image illustrates SEPTA's failure in dropping the Regional Rail numbering scheme very well.

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Aug 20 09:30:07 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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Question: Are some of the IV's pan-less? Or are some just running with the pan's in the lowered position?

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by chuchubob on Mon Aug 20 10:42:44 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Aug 20 09:30:07 2012.

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SL IV's and SL V's have singles and married pairs. Each married pair has one pantograph on one car and none on the other.

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Aug 20 11:29:39 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by chuchubob on Mon Aug 20 10:42:44 2012.

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That was my suspicion, but I had referred to have an authoritative explanation.
Thanks.
Is there a semi-permanent power bus between the cars?

If a pan on a married pair fails, two cars become trailers?

Has this happened on any three car sets?

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Aug 20 12:43:31 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Aug 20 11:29:39 2012.

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Only between married cars.

Yes.

I'm sure it has.

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Re: PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Aug 21 06:37:12 2012, in response to PHOTOS: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY RUSH HOUR, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Aug 19 13:44:54 2012.

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OK not to sound like someone else here, But there 2 photos V's that you put the wrong amount of cars. Counting down with Vid's, #13 is only 4 cars and #22 is 6 cars not 5. But they are great Photo's.

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