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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 11 17:14:35 2012, in response to Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Aug 11 16:55:32 2012. Maybe their governor should have gone for a little more railroad. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Aug 11 18:21:36 2012, in response to Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Aug 11 16:55:32 2012. What's that? I thought the fools here told us that ARC was holding NJT back from having every project their little foamer hearts desired and that all would be well if we could just get rid of that project. Now we have no ARC and yet not one of the projects they claimed would be built has any funding allocated, AND NJT has a maintenance backlog even as Chrisco blew through the ARC money on our roads? It's almost as if the foamers never had the slightest clue in the first place. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Aug 11 18:31:13 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by WillD on Sat Aug 11 18:21:36 2012. I'll take the opinions of the PROFESSIONALS who designed ARC over the coalition of foamers and Nazis on Sub Chat who opposed it and celebrated when Nazi Chrisco killed it for more EisenHITLER highway funding. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 11 19:59:49 2012, in response to Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Aug 11 16:55:32 2012. More attempts to sell overpriced upgrades to the public? No word about the abuse of infrastructure not designed for 23 TPH? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Aug 12 20:36:03 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Aug 11 18:31:13 2012. "EisenHITLER"? Considering that Eisenhower was "Supreme Commander" in the war against Hitler, that is a strange thing to call him. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 20:48:15 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Aug 12 20:36:03 2012. He fell in love with the autobahns and worked hard to destroy America's railroads for the rest of his life. He also instigated Operation Northwoods. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Aug 22 05:12:10 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 20:48:15 2012. How much Eisenhower himself had to do with Operation Northwoods isn't clear. The Joint Chiefs of Staff came up with the idea. I guess he appointed them, or perhaps some were holdovers from the Truman administration. Thank God JFK stopped the plan. Possibly he paid for that decision with his life, or at least that was a factor.P.S. I was initially undecided about whether to respond to this here. When I saw that Olog-hai revived a two-year-old thread of yours about 9/11, apparently for the purpose of ridiculing it, I decided to go ahead. I don't think it is fair to blame "the GOP" for what happened then; after all, if it was a partisan thing, the Democrats would have reversed the whole "9/11 changed everything" attitude, but sadly they haven't, and we still get laws like the recent NDAA. I do agree that the official story of 9/11 is nonsense. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 22 05:16:15 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Aug 22 05:12:10 2012. You are as disreputable as RockParkMan. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 09:09:50 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Aug 22 05:12:10 2012. I do agree that the official story of 9/11 is nonsenseThen you're as wacked as the person you're responding to. Nothing happened under Northwoods, and all the sources that claim false-flag operations that never happened are very questionable—it's normal for enemy moles to send proposals like this to the POTUS. You should worry more about documents like the Red House Report. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 09:56:55 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 20:48:15 2012. 1 and 2 I agree with . . . 3 is cuckoo city. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Aug 22 11:09:33 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 09:09:50 2012. I'll just make one final comment on the subject: check out Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 11:28:03 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Aug 22 11:09:33 2012. Fringe truthers when the middle east terrorists already admitted their culpability?BTW, learn how to make a link. You need the "http://" protocol in all links in the <a> tag. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Aug 22 11:43:15 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 11:28:03 2012. Oops, I usually test links, don't know why I didn't this time. OK, I goofed on that. But the point is, the people there are responsible professionals, not "fringe" people. And the only people who "admitted their culpability" are either inept patsies or torture victims (or both). |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 11:45:22 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Aug 22 11:43:15 2012. the people there are responsible professionals, not "fringe" peopleLOL! And the only people who "admitted their culpability" are either inept patsies or torture victims (or both) Neither the supreme leader of Iran nor his puppet prime minister have been tortured. OBL wasn't either. I wouldn't call any of them "inept patsies", too. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 12:25:56 2012, in response to Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Aug 11 16:55:32 2012. Here's what I'd do:- Sell Penn Station to the Port Authority and have it jointly run by NJT, the MTA and Amtrak, with written agreements to numbers of slots and priorities. This ends Amtrak favoring it's trains over NJT universally. One of the first things they could do is end the practice of having arriving and departing long distance trains from being scheduled during peak hours. - Turn over the NEC from Sunnyside to NYP to NJT, from NYP to Sunnyside to the MTA. Amtrak pays a rental fee that funds maintenance work for both lines. This frees up NJT to do what it wants to accommodate it's trains as long as Amtrak's needs are met. They can begin upgrading the PRR power system, and expand the North River tunnels. - Re-allocate about half the current funding being wasted on HSR work to upgrading the NEC. Abandon HSR and concentrate on maximizing the existing system. - Double-track and fully electrify the Waterfront Connection to allow more reverse peak Newark Division trains to originate from Hoboken. There are 5 South Amboy expresses in the morning which literally run empty out of NYP. These trains could either originate at Hoboken or Newark via a grade-separated junction. NJT has been obsessed with hyping NYP over Hoboken for 20 years now. This problem is partially their own fault. Longer term, adding an extra tube to the Hudson River and adding additional platforms south of track 1 and 2 to double peak direction capacity is the best answer, financially. All the proposed expansions are too expensive. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 12:27:11 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Aug 12 20:36:03 2012. Considering he was courted by Democrats as aggressively as the GOP prior to running for election, it's especially odd. Eisenhower was no ideological conservative. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 12:28:03 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 12:25:56 2012. I don't see how Amtrak favors their own trains over NJT or how that's a problem anyhow. NJT is the one that jammed unnatural numbers of trains into NY Penn. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 12:37:29 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 12:28:03 2012. Anytime an Amtrak train is late, it's given priority over NJT. Many times NEC trains are specifically slowed down to allow late running trains to get ahead of them before everything merges at Kearney. It should be first come, first serve at this junction. |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Aug 22 12:49:15 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 12:37:29 2012. The Amtrak passengers are paying far more for their tickets, and as such they've paid for priority over commuter traffic. Unless of course you'd prefer we apportion our rail infrastructure on the basis of need rather than merit, comrade. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 22 13:07:28 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 22 05:16:15 2012. +1 |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Aug 22 13:14:22 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 12:25:56 2012. You do realize Amtrak is the only way the NEC is getting the desperately needed PORTAL bridge replacement now, right? Turning the NEC over to NJT would only have resulted in Chrisco killing that absolutely vital project along with ARC. As it was because PORTAL was a federal project it was able to skate past the idiocy relatively unharmed.Re-allocate about half the current funding being wasted on HSR work to upgrading the NEC. Abandon HSR and concentrate on maximizing the existing system Go ODS! Never mind that those "HSR" improvements you'd eliminate would go a long way toward removing the conflicts with Amtrak trains you complain about immediately before this entry. Double-track and fully electrify the Waterfront Connection to allow more reverse peak Newark Division trains to originate from Hoboken You're not going to do that project for 5 trains per day. Fully utilizing the investment, especially for a grade separated junction, will require allocating some NEC trains to those tracks, and those passengers will *not* be happy with the prospect of eight car trains showing up at Newark. Longer term, adding an extra tube to the Hudson River and adding additional platforms south of track 1 and 2 to double peak direction capacity is the best answer, financially. All the proposed expansions are too expensive. One extra tube because we have of course perfected matter transporters to teleport deadhead trains back to NJ, right? Then there's the small, inconvenient fact that shallow trench construction of the sort required to expand the NYP trench to the south is absolutely the most expensive manner of adding station capacity. Just look at the price increase of Gateway over ARC, despite the marginal increase in utility. But then you're being penny wise and pound foolish, trading relatively cheap tunnel construction for inordinately expensive station construction. Better to build two new tubes in the short term, leave a number of provisions to serve additional platforms in the future. For now we'd utilize the tunnels's capacity by improving utilization of NYP platforms through a tightening up of operating procedures. Then, when NYP's capacity is truly maxed out, we can build the (again, very expensive) terminal improvements, but with some flexibility thanks to provisions made in the construction of the two new tubes. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 13:48:39 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 22 05:16:15 2012. +∞² |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Aug 22 16:22:38 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 12:25:56 2012. You do realize Amtrak is the only way the NEC is getting the desperately needed PORTAL bridge replacement now, right? Turning the NEC over to NJT would only have resulted in Chrisco killing that absolutely vital project along with ARC. As it was because PORTAL was a federal project it was able to skate past the idiocy relatively unharmed.Re-allocate about half the current funding being wasted on HSR work to upgrading the NEC. Abandon HSR and concentrate on maximizing the existing system Go ODS! Never mind that those "HSR" improvements you'd eliminate would go a long way toward removing the conflicts with Amtrak trains you complain about immediately before this entry. Double-track and fully electrify the Waterfront Connection to allow more reverse peak Newark Division trains to originate from Hoboken You're not going to do that project for 5 trains per day. Fully utilizing the investment, especially for a grade separated junction, will require allocating some NEC trains to those tracks, and those passengers will *not* be happy with the prospect of eight car trains showing up at Newark. Longer term, adding an extra tube to the Hudson River and adding additional platforms south of track 1 and 2 to double peak direction capacity is the best answer, financially. All the proposed expansions are too expensive. One extra tube because we have of course perfected matter transporters to teleport deadhead trains back to NJ, right? Then there's the small, inconvenient fact that shallow trench construction of the sort required to expand the NYP trench to the south is absolutely the most expensive manner of adding station capacity. Just look at the price increase of Gateway over ARC, despite the marginal increase in utility. But then you're being penny wise and pound foolish, trading relatively cheap tunnel construction for inordinately expensive station construction. Better to build two new tubes in the short term, leave a number of provisions to serve additional platforms in the future. For now we'd utilize the tunnels's capacity by improving utilization of NYP platforms through a tightening up of operating procedures. Then, when NYP's capacity is truly maxed out, we can build the (again, very expensive) terminal improvements, but with some flexibility thanks to provisions made in the construction of the two new tubes. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 22 16:24:08 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Aug 22 11:09:33 2012. I don't visit crackpot websites.Well-educated people can still be Ologesque crackpots. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 16:48:03 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Aug 22 05:12:10 2012. I do agree that the official story of 9/11 is nonsense.So you reject science, logic and factual evidence? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 16:54:11 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 16:48:03 2012. Maybe he's a republican. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 17:13:04 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 16:48:03 2012. He does. He buys the whole Operation Northwoods hype too. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 17:22:37 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 16:54:11 2012. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 17:31:42 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by WillD on Wed Aug 22 16:22:38 2012. All that knowledge and what is SEPTA paying you per hour? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 17:31:58 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 17:22:37 2012. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 17:33:27 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by WillD on Wed Aug 22 16:22:38 2012. ZOMG, you mean the feds can't help fund state projects? Remember to use the first five cars to exit the train at South Ferry! |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Aug 22 17:42:48 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 09:56:55 2012. It's just cuckoo city becaues you would support Northwoods.1. Former Generals cannot be trusted to hold public office. 2. We need to destroy any treasonous elements in the military who want to operate in this manner. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 17:44:01 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 17:33:27 2012. Apparently not anymore ... repubs are BACK in da house, baby ...http://www.transportationissuesdaily.com/proposed-2012-budget-would-slash-transportation-funds/ |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 17:52:59 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 17:44:01 2012. More of the dishonesty that we've come to expect. Chris is talking about what is and you talk about what might be. Credibility man - credibility. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 17:59:35 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 17:52:59 2012. Feds fund state rail projects all the time. If NJ owned Portal, they could still lobby for the funding to replace it. In fact, I'd wager much of NJT owned infrastructure is in better shape than Amtrak's. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 22 18:05:17 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Aug 11 18:31:13 2012. Those 'professionals' were consultants who cared more for their overly-large paychecks and not one bit for a functional rail system. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 18:05:28 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 17:59:35 2012. The usual suspect was trying to fog the issue with his usual brand of partisan bullshit. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 22 18:11:33 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 12:25:56 2012. Those 'expresses' leave NYP in the AM rush empty out of NYP because the trains were FULL when they brought people INTO NYP. You can't originate the service in Hoboken if the trains aren't IN Hoboken. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 18:24:10 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 17:52:59 2012. That's YOUR republican budget. It's official. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 18:25:45 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 18:24:10 2012. I keep telling you that if it comes out of congress then it's our budget unless you keep your promise and move north of the border. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 22 18:32:30 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 17:59:35 2012. No, it really isn't. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 18:45:15 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 18:25:45 2012. And if it were Pelosi's budget, would you be singing the blues with a Bushman or a Hohner harmonica? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 19:33:43 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 18:45:15 2012. If it were pelosi's budget I'd think we were in the twilight zone. What budget did that dumb bitch pass in two years? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 19:48:30 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 19:33:43 2012. You'd have to vote for it first. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 20:17:56 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 19:48:30 2012. And we'd have to vote for it to see what's in it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 20:20:00 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 20:17:56 2012. Uh ... yeah. :-\ |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 23 10:16:02 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 12:25:56 2012. I do not want to give the Port Authority any more power than it has. I'd really like to dismantle the whole agency. In practice They answer to no one, do what they want, their fare/toll hike "hearing" process was a joke, and off-peak PATH service frequency is disgraceful. Christie lets them get away with it since he is using them as an ATM machine for the Pulaski Skyway, which is really his responsibility.Which LD trains are you referring to ? 48 does not arrive from Chicago until 6:30pm. 49 is out by 3:45pm. The practice you are referring to ended over 20 years ago. I agree the Waterfront Connection should be finished. The Gold Coast is under-served. It would not be that expensive and more RVL trains can be sent there. The existing trains are very popular. People actually transfer at Newark in the AM and wait for them at track 3. About 50% of the NJCL load gets off at Newark, but another 50% gets on, and they are pretty full into Hoboken. They should be encouraging people out of NYPS - there will be no new tunnels for at least a decade, probably longer. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 23 10:17:28 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 22 12:37:29 2012. The Control Center is manned by 16 people: LIRR and Amtrak. NJT has a "liasion". They can get off their ass and pay for inclusion anytime they want. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 23 11:23:13 2012, in response to Re: Lack of funds for maintenance clogs busy NJ Transit rail system, posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 23 10:16:02 2012. They should be encouraging people out of NYPSThey aren't going to do that what with LIRR not encouraging people out of NYP themselves (or GCT if they ever go in there), and downgrading I agree the Waterfront Connection should be finished. The Gold Coast is under-served Dontcha know that the right way to get to the "Gold Coast" is via PATH to HBLR and all . . . ? That Waterfront Connector is a missed opportunity. Of course, not building a Union Station in Manhattan (to join up with the LIRR's Atlantic Avenue Branch) is yet another missed opportunity . . . all the zillions that the MTA spent on ESA could've gone towards something like that, and any new tunnels under the Hudson coulda been built from East End under Hoboken instead. |
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