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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 2 16:45:09 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Thu Aug 2 02:14:38 2012.

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Would love to see that, but I guess seeing the classic white-on-black "76" tiles on the wall would be too much to ask.

Imagine if someone did actually get in there and snap some pictures. It'd be like Indiana Jones entering the chamber of the Holy Grail.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Aug 2 16:49:40 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jul 30 09:54:13 2012.

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Or be eaten by some real tunnel rats!

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 2 18:43:30 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 23:12:08 2012.

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Haha!

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 2 19:00:38 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by 3-9 on Wed Aug 1 17:54:04 2012.

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No water is leaking from the cinder block wall.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 2 19:23:31 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by mike cruz on Thu Aug 2 12:49:14 2012.

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water came out,but not like a fire hose.it dribbled down & was sealed up.I,ve seen the pictures.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Aug 7 21:17:48 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 30 01:33:23 2012.

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Was 76th built my the IND or the MTA? If it was IND, the MTA would probably not know anything about it.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by renee gil on Tue Aug 7 21:23:41 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Aug 7 21:17:48 2012.

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That part of the Fulton/Pitkin Subway was built after Unification in 1940....I think.

All I know that the construction of the Fulton/Pitkin line came to a halt in 1942 due to WWII of course, and that includes the section past Euclid Avenue.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by randyo on Wed Aug 8 01:26:01 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by renee gil on Tue Aug 7 21:23:41 2012.

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That part of the IND was built by the B of T of the City of NY.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 8 10:39:26 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Aug 7 21:17:48 2012.

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LOL! Wrong again Dan Lawrence!!!

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Aug 8 16:43:17 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 2 16:45:09 2012.

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I'm betting that photos do exist if there is a station of some kind behind that wall, usually photos are taken of construction sites sometimes by insurance companies, I knew an insurance man who did take photographs of transit projects for several transit systems as that was required by law in the past but I don't know if and when they stopped doing it, but I did see photos he took of several job sites being done by the New York transit system from the 30's to the 60's. Karl

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:39:55 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Aug 8 16:43:17 2012.

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you're right. but when are we going to get a look at this station. The only way is to sneak into the tunnel or find where they hide the entraces on 76th street. which I believe they're around.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:41:29 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Wed Aug 8 01:26:01 2012.

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stop playing around and lets go into the tunnel or find the entrance to the station staircases.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:42:31 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by renee gil on Tue Aug 7 21:23:41 2012.

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stop playing around and lets get into the tunnel or find the staircases the entrace is still around.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 19:43:13 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:39:55 2012.

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Let me know when you are going to go and where you are going to meet.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:43:35 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Aug 7 21:17:48 2012.

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the mta won't say anything because they did this with non-union workers. which is why they went to the extreme to seal it.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 19:43:38 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:42:31 2012.

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Sorry, no staircases! : (

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:44:54 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 19:43:38 2012.

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there is a staircase they hide it under someones property.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 19:45:47 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:44:54 2012.

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Oh really?

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 19:46:08 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:43:35 2012.

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wrong,wrong,wrong.why is everybody taking this statement seriously? it was posted as an april fool`s J_O_K_E!

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 19:52:18 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:43:35 2012.

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actually they used illegals from Mexico and China to build the tunnel. I hear that there are still rice bowls and chop sticks littering the tunnel floor.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 19:53:46 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:44:54 2012.

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I heard that the staircase was hidden in the floor of one of the mausoleums in the cemetery. Which one should be easy to figure out.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 19:54:47 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 19:53:46 2012.

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the one that says 76st,no brainer.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 19:55:15 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 19:46:08 2012.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah! You are only saying that because you don't want anyone else digging in your spot. You know that you want to be the only one to find the station.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 19:56:19 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 19:54:47 2012.

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It's not going to be that easy.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 19:59:23 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 19:55:15 2012.

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hehehe.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 19:59:58 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 19:56:19 2012.

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gone for the nite,manyana.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by B53RICH on Thu Aug 9 20:04:57 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 19:45:47 2012.

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It's under the BIG W!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-xgGX_vt2I

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Aug 9 20:12:13 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by B53RICH on Thu Aug 9 20:04:57 2012.

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W,as for WOW it really does exsist!GOD BLESS YOU,TUNNELRAT!

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 20:19:00 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by B53RICH on Thu Aug 9 20:04:57 2012.

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Big W logo in Arnold's?

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Dave on Thu Aug 9 21:27:05 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:41:29 2012.

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Go ahead, we'll be right behind you.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by renee gil on Thu Aug 9 21:37:13 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Dave on Thu Aug 9 21:27:05 2012.

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You bet we will....

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Aug 9 21:49:34 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Thu Aug 9 19:42:31 2012.

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LION has carefully surveyed the surface of Ptiken from Euclid to 76th Street. There is no surface evidence whatsoever of any subway once the street enters Queens. No, not even a manhole on Pitkin which could access a tunnel. zipzeronadda

There are plenty of subway grates on the Brooklyn side of the City Lion, but none on the Queens side. But then we KNOW about the Brooklyn Side of the tunnel.

From in the tunnel, from the pictures that I have seen, it does look like the tracks pass under the wall, but that is all that the LION can say about it.

I propose that we all join the Transit Museum, and then propose an guided expedition to 76th Street. We could use flat cars (fitted for pax use) to get to the wall but beyond a guide telling us what we are looking at, there will be little else to be seen. Still, I would pay to go on such a trip.

ROAR

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Handbrake on Thu Aug 9 22:29:46 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 19:43:13 2012.

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For anyone planning a trip down in the hole to discover the mystical 76th Street subway station, please insure to have the following items:

1. Employee ID Car
2. Valid Track Safety Card
3. Approved light
4. NYCT approved vest
5. ANSI compliant Hardhat
6. Safety shoes with hard toe

Item #1 gets you past the NYPD, the rest will keep System Safety off your back.

Happy hunting.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 22:36:54 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Thu Aug 9 22:29:46 2012.

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I picture of Rod Serling would be of great help. Also, why would you need a valid Track Safety Card as there are no tracks?

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 10 02:29:12 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 19:55:15 2012.

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LOL!LOL!LOL!..OH MAN..THAT HURT...

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 14:53:45 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Aug 9 21:49:34 2012.

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In 1983, there was a manhole cover in the middle of Pitkin Av east of where the bulkhead would be, however when I went there again a few years ago, the street had been completely repaved and the manhole clover was gone. The words "Independent System City of New York" were cast into that manhole cover. That same year I was examining the book of emergency exits in the trainmaster's office and there were 2 emergency exits listed in the book that would have been beyond the bulkhead but when George Abere and I investigated, we couldn't find any trace of them. Unfortunately when the Gunn/Kiley administration took over the MTA, Dave Feeley's staff came through all the Jay St offices like a bull in a china shop and trashes all documents he deemed out of date and that book went into the dumpster and the new book no longer contained those emergency exit numbers. From the time that George and I first investigated the area in 1962 (unfortunately in the evening when it was dark and we couldn't see much), later in 1983 and up to the present. extensive street and sidewalk repaving and construction has taken place in the area completely obliterating any possible evidence of proposed station entrances or emergency exits.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 14:55:59 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 22:36:54 2012.

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Because, you would need to walk down active tracks to get to the bulkhead.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by mike cruz on Fri Aug 10 16:17:34 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 14:53:45 2012.

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Knowin NYC they probly told them to pave right over the manhole LOL.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by renee gil on Fri Aug 10 16:22:22 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by B53RICH on Thu Aug 9 20:04:57 2012.

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Actually this is the "Big W":

Photobucket

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 10 16:28:57 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 14:55:59 2012.

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I thought that we were going in through the entrance hidden by the mausoleum. Sorry - my mistake

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by numbersix on Fri Aug 10 16:37:32 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 10 16:28:57 2012.

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I thought the Transit Mausoleum was on Court St.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 10 16:39:59 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by numbersix on Fri Aug 10 16:37:32 2012.

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If you are not familiar with the area, there is an old cemetery adjacent to where the 76th St Station would exist

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Aug 10 16:42:27 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 10 16:39:59 2012.

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no it ain`t! its down the road several blocks.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 10 17:29:43 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Fri Aug 10 16:42:27 2012.

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Average city block is <200' and the average IND station was over 600'.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 17:40:22 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Fri Aug 10 16:42:27 2012.

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Since you have mentioned that the tunnel infrastructure extends to 79 St, does that mean that the tunnel curves slightly south at the S/E of the station shell since that's what Pitkin Av does. If the tunnel does not curve that would put the end of the subway infrastructure at 78 St rather than 79 St.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 17:45:02 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 10 17:29:43 2012.

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According to the tunnel rat, the subway infrastructure ends at 79 St (although I suspect it may be 78 St). If the station shell were constructed similarly to the rest of the Pitkin Av stations, that would place it centered on 76 St and the cemetery doesn't start till 80 St thus there would be nothing to do with any station entrances under any mausoleums at all.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 17:47:08 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by mike cruz on Fri Aug 10 16:17:34 2012.

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That may very well have been the case, especially since even if the existence of the station were to be proven, there is no likelihood of it ever being used for any transit uses anyhow.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by the moose on Fri Aug 10 20:37:07 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Aug 9 21:49:34 2012.

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it would not be good for the mta to expose this station since it was done with non-union workers.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by the moose on Fri Aug 10 20:40:29 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Fri Aug 10 17:47:08 2012.

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we the people will find it. I'm getting indiana jones and the temple of 76th street.

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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.

Posted by mike cruz on Fri Aug 10 20:42:19 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Fri Aug 10 20:40:29 2012.

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And if it's not there we'll just build it! hahaha

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