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# (7) train problems

Posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 6 19:29:49 2012

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Due to a train with mechanical problem at the Grand Central-42 Street Station, Times Square bound (7) train service are terminating at the Queensboro Plaza Station and the Hunters Point Avenue Station.

As an alternate customers are advised to use (N) and (Q) train service to the Queensboro Plaza Station or (E), (F), (M) and (R) train service to the Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue Station where you can transfer for Main Street (7) bound train service.

Please expect delay in (7), (E), (F), (M), (N), (Q), (R) train service at this time.

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Train2104 on Mon Aug 6 21:18:34 2012, in response to # (7) train problems, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 6 19:29:49 2012.

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Disruption started @ 17:57.
Current time 21:18, disruption still in effect.

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Train2104 on Mon Aug 6 21:26:00 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train2104 on Mon Aug 6 21:18:34 2012.

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Correction: service resumed 21:10.

But what makes a disabled train unmovable for 3 hours?

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Aug 6 21:39:13 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train2104 on Mon Aug 6 21:26:00 2012.

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Air problems maybe?

-w-

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 21:45:57 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train2104 on Mon Aug 6 21:26:00 2012.

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Locked pinion?
Dropped armature?
Frozen journal bearing?
Trainline electrical problem?

Need we go on?

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 6 21:48:53 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 21:45:57 2012.

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Chit all kinds of chit...

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 21:50:16 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 6 21:48:53 2012.

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What hear you?

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 6 21:55:27 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 21:50:16 2012.

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Train took a Major Dump at Grand Central and there wasnt enough Toilet Paper to clean itself with..

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 21:56:55 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 6 21:55:27 2012.

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I hate when that happens!

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 6 21:59:11 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 21:56:55 2012.

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Road was Jacked sooo bad they had to "migrate" down to the Mikey and Echo at Court Square Oh vey...

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Re: # (7) train DUDE

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 6 22:08:26 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 21:56:55 2012.

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gmail

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 22:09:35 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 6 21:59:11 2012.

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When you get an RCI and TSS who don't know what they are doing you end up with a cluster-fuck like that. When I was an RCI, I never wanted to have the cavalry sent to help me. I always seemed to manage unless we had to make an "other than head car" move.

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by gbs on Mon Aug 6 22:13:10 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train2104 on Mon Aug 6 21:18:34 2012.

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Here's what's unforgivable: at 6:30, fully a half-hour into the disruption, we got off the D at 42 St and walked down the long hallway to the #7, only to find that no trains were running in either direction, so we had to walk all the way back to 6 Av for the F or M into Queens.

No one announced at 42 St (D,F,M) (either on the train or on the platform, either via loudspeaker or in person) that there was no #7 service at the station. Someone could have been stationed at the beginning of the transfer hallway to inform us, so we could save the walk and not lose time going back and forth. It cannot be acceptable that an IRT disruption cannot be known on the IND or BMT.

By the time we got to Roosevelt/74, there was a packed Flushing-bound #7 train in the station for a while, and we waited a while longer before the congestion ahead cleared up.

A normal 45-minute trip took over twice as long.

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Re: # (7) train DUDE

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 22:13:54 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train DUDE, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 6 22:08:26 2012.

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Answered :) & Thank you

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 6 22:15:16 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 22:09:35 2012.

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My Lips are sealed...

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 22:17:07 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by gbs on Mon Aug 6 22:13:10 2012.

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That is unforgivable. While the dispatcher on the 6th Ave line would not have any knowledge of whats going on on the #7 line, the B2 Desk Supt. in Control Center should have and he should have passed the message on to the critical connection areas in Manhattan and Queens so appropriate announcements could be made.

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Aug 6 23:03:16 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by gbs on Mon Aug 6 22:13:10 2012.

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Nice. And they announce all the train crap about GOs and other nonsense on the BUS non-stop!


STILL
LOL@NONSENSICAL ANNOUNCEMENTS

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Aug 6 23:54:21 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 22:17:07 2012.

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An announcement was made at the IRT platforms at Union Square.

I feel that announcements regarding the disruption of 7 service between Manhattan and Queens should be repeated every 2 minutes at every station between 14th and 60th Streets.

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Aug 6 23:56:11 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 6 21:45:57 2012.

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Take any of those and combine it with tight tunnel clearance.

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 7 00:11:20 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Aug 6 23:56:11 2012.

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And from what I hear, caloricly challenged responders, too.

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Stef on Tue Aug 7 00:28:44 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train2104 on Mon Aug 6 21:26:00 2012.

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One of my gremlins reported a brake pipe rupture. There could be any number of reasons why it would take so long. I don't know where the train was when it crapped out, but if it was in between stations and not going anywhere because it couldn't charge, a rescue train may have had to come in and get those passengers out of the way. And it was still rush hour when the initial incident occurred. Perhaps the powers that be were waiting for the rush to die down before attempting any moves with this disabled train.

Besides, if the train was operated other than head end, that in itself would prove to be difficult operating 6 cars back.

Please treat anything I say as mere conjecture. I can't say in any official capacity as to what transpired because I wasn't there.

Regards,
Stef

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Turning trains (Re: # (7) train problems)

Posted by Stef on Tue Aug 7 00:31:45 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Stef on Tue Aug 7 00:28:44 2012.

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Trains from Main St. were being turned at multiple locations: 74th St, Queensboro, and Hunters Point apparently.

-Stef

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Aug 7 03:23:50 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 7 00:11:20 2012.

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LOL Oh come on. That's my boy, there. haha

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Aug 7 03:28:39 2012, in response to # (7) train problems, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 6 19:29:49 2012.

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Brake pipe rupture DEEP into the Steinway Tunnel. I was off today, thank god. They had so many trains stuck in Manhattan I hear, that they had to start wrong-railing some trains out. There was a train on Track 2 at Grand Central - 42 Street (not going anywhere, obviously). It was there for so long that Transit ordered it taken out of service (possibly to be used as a rescue train). But people on the train refused to leave, so the police had to be called in.

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 7 04:21:43 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Aug 7 03:28:39 2012.

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But people on the train refused to leave, so the police had to be called in.

Or they didn't understand the announcements. Common on that line. Happens all the time at Queensboro during GO's.


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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 7 07:52:13 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Aug 7 03:23:50 2012.

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I hope his G2 is perfect somebody's giving blood for this one.....

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by Train2104 on Tue Aug 7 21:07:30 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Aug 7 03:28:39 2012.

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In a case like that, could a rescue train/engine pull the disabled train out, or does someone have to crawl under the cars to fix the pipe? (since one can't walk alongside the train in the tunnel, IIRC)

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Aug 8 09:05:24 2012, in response to # (7) train problems, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 6 19:29:49 2012.

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Is it just me or does the 7 train seem to be having a lot of problems lately?

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Aug 8 09:45:25 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Aug 8 09:05:24 2012.

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John Rocker's revenge! :)





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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by chud1 on Wed Aug 8 16:15:29 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Aug 8 09:05:24 2012.

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7 train seems to have a lot of problems. did they not do work on that line a while ago.
chud1

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Re: # (7) train problems

Posted by jabrams on Wed Aug 8 21:51:20 2012, in response to Re: # (7) train problems, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 7 07:52:13 2012.

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Can they easily determine if the rupture is in the front section of the train or the rear section by separating the two sections, then move the passengers to the good section and return or move forward to the next station with 1/2 the train? Do the cars separate as easy as it was on Pelham 123 without having to climb down to the trackbed?

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