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Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ' |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 31 21:52:25 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 31 17:16:59 2012. Unfortunately, 2 overt bigots work for the transit system, and they need to be outed.As some would note, it's one thing to simply choose not to speak English even at STM, but it's another to be a douche about it... |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 31 21:57:39 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:41:59 2012. Even on the other side of the frontier, I was the only one pushing beyond 110 km/h on the A-15. In a decade or so, I'm tempted to say the meme is a bit overblown.Admittedly, I was surprised at how few troopers were patrolling on the drive that I took up there. The Northway isn't as generous with hiding spots compared to other highways, but I'm left wondering if the state cut their budget... |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 31 22:07:53 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 31 21:46:46 2012. Stuck up does not mean that. Stuck up implies that they think that they are better than you and perhaps too good to help. What you are describing could easily be attributed to a different way of interacting that you (perhaps incorrectly) assume is something personal. Or maybe they are just assholes. That's why I asked for more specifics.Personally I prefer when people are standoffish and mind their own business. I would probably seem stuck up to you. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 31 22:15:12 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Easy on Tue Jul 31 22:07:53 2012. Nah Stuck Up goes along with the other things i said..I would probably seem stuck up to you. I wouldn't know.. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 31 22:15:50 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by randyo on Tue Jul 31 17:09:51 2012. I wasn't aware that there was any French spoken outside of the Quebec province.Francophone Canada actually ends up over spilling into portions of Western Ontario. Yes, there's Ottawa, the national capital, but you'll also find them in the rural region of eastern Ontario between Ottawa and Montreal, but also around Sudbury in northern Ontario. As Olog noted, Acadians still reside in New Brunswick with their own cultural identity from the Quebecois. One should also note that a decent chunk of the French Canadian population ended up pouring into Northern New England during the 19th Century. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 22:32:13 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 31 21:57:39 2012. A bit? :)Et oui ... budget cuts. Legends are forever though ... souviens. (grin) |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 31 22:42:10 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 31 22:15:12 2012. I understand that stuck up goes with those, but it's more than that. Someone can be standoffish and not helpful and still not be stuck up. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 31 22:45:30 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Easy on Tue Jul 31 22:42:10 2012. I understand that stuck up goes with those, but it's more than that. Someone can be standoffish and not helpful and still not be stuck up.As i said i have seen all of it hey chit happens.. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 31 23:06:47 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 31 22:45:30 2012. Well stuck up or not I enjoyed Montreal. I could see myself living there and I don't speak any French. I'd try to learn though. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 31 23:43:19 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 22:32:13 2012. Et oui ... budget cutsTo think, it's cheaper to let them sit at home than to collect revenue. Of course, the upside is that it's better for tourism. The Northway is so much nicer at 100 mph than 65. :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 23:53:17 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 31 23:43:19 2012. Heh. The Albany area malls depend VERY heavily on joyeux! :) |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Aug 1 00:03:40 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 23:53:17 2012. Heh. The Albany area malls depend VERY heavily on joyeux! :)They drive that far now for "discounts"? You might as well keep going southward and find actual fashionable clothing. :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 1 00:06:56 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Aug 1 00:03:40 2012. Prices get higher the further south you go. :) |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Aug 1 01:16:27 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by numbersix on Mon Jul 30 20:55:04 2012. I remember hearing at one time that in New Mexico, English and Spanish were both official languages. According to Wikipedia, the original state constitution required all laws to be in both English and Spanish, although the term "official language" wasn't actually used. The state courts are still largely bilingual, although the requirement for laws to be published in Spanish is apparently no longer in effect. And the state song, designated in 1995, has a title that is part English, part Spanish. Quite a different approach from Arizona. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Aug 1 03:37:54 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Easy on Tue Jul 31 23:06:47 2012. FWIW, you'd actually have to actually learn French to get a decent job unless one has connections to an Anglophone. As for me, Montreal is nice, but I never fell in love with the city in the same way that I did Vancouver or Berlin. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 1 03:45:07 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Aug 1 03:37:54 2012. I've found Montreal to be very nice for a city, though the parking rules are a bit insane. What I really enjoy about Quebec though is out in places like Victoriaville, Saint-Bonaventure, Sainte-Croix and places which aren't so "metropolitan" ... Montreal can get a bit rowdy. Vancouver's cool and all, but it's San Francisco du nord.And no, non comprende Angleterre. :) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 1 08:19:55 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Easy on Tue Jul 31 23:06:47 2012. I never said I didn't enjoy the city I just didn't care to much for some of the human element. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Aug 1 16:21:41 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 31 22:15:50 2012. I was aware of the French Canadian - New England connection since my dentist is descended from that group. |
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Posted by Greg_UWS on Wed Aug 1 22:47:25 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by randyo on Wed Aug 1 16:21:41 2012. Roughly 1/2 of the French Canadians who migrated south during the Industrial Age in New England eventually returned home. |
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Posted by Greg_UWS on Wed Aug 1 22:50:08 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 31 21:52:25 2012. Name a city, town, state or country that doesn't have its share of "douches." I can't think of any except, of course, Brooklyn. LOL! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 1 22:56:49 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Greg_UWS on Wed Aug 1 22:50:08 2012. Not a case of a mere "share", but an excessive share. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 1 22:58:11 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Greg_UWS on Wed Aug 1 22:47:25 2012. . . . to France? |
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Posted by Greg_UWS on Wed Aug 1 23:07:26 2012, in response to Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 30 17:32:04 2012. /sigh/ A little sociology lesson might be helpful here. People who've lived under oppression, yes, can be a bit "sensitive". Example: although relations between Ireland and England are much improved, go to one of the Irish pubs in the Bx and they're still singing, "We'll spit on the Queen and bash in her head." LOL! On the one hand, we want to say, "GET OVER IT." But maybe we don't know or feel what they know or feel.Recall that thousands of French Canadians from the eastern provinces were literally forced into the Atlantic by the Brits and sailed around until someone allowed them in. (They're today's Cajuns [i.e. Acadians] in Louisiana.) Until the 1930s, Montreal-- Montreal!!-- was majority English speaking and the French had GREAT jobs as maids, butlers and servants-- IF they spoke English. Like the Irish in the Bronx, sometimes it takes a while to "get over it." And most French in Canada HAVE gotten over it. But what group doesn't have its hotheads? (i.e., like the member here who proclaimed that the "morons in Quebec... are racist," failing to grasp the irony of his own words...) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 1 23:20:53 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Greg_UWS on Wed Aug 1 23:07:26 2012. People who've lived under oppression, yes, can be a bit "sensitive". Example: although relations between Ireland and England are much improved, go to one of the Irish pubs in the Bx and they're still singing, "We'll spit on the Queen and bash in her head." LOLDon't talk about matters you know nothing about. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 1 23:21:54 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 1 23:20:53 2012. Number one, it's true, second of all you have no idea of why "Greg" is ... why don't you go play with your grenades? :( |
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Posted by Greg_UWS on Thu Aug 2 00:08:16 2012, in response to Re: Man gets "regret" from Montréal transit…"they don't serve English people", posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 1 22:58:11 2012. Yeah, the French Canadians returned home to their villas on the French Riviera. Good grief. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 00:22:59 2012, in response to Re: Man gets ''regret'' from Montréal transit…''they don't serve English people'', posted by Greg_UWS on Thu Aug 2 00:08:16 2012. False! They moved to Germany and settled Austria. Don't sweat it, he's been off his meds for a while now. :) |
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Posted by Nabinut on Thu Aug 2 01:02:06 2012, in response to Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 30 17:32:04 2012. That happened to me in Montreal last year. I know a little french and asked the station attendant in French if she spoke English. She didn't and directed me to someone who did.The rest of the trip, I "Bonjoured" or "Mercied" all the operators and badly murdered the french language at a local McDonalds where the guy who waited on me realized I was English and politely spoke it to me. I'm pretty sure in his head, he was like "Stupid Americans!!!" |
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Posted by Greg_UWS on Thu Aug 2 02:26:36 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Nabinut on Thu Aug 2 01:02:06 2012. "I'm pretty sure in his head, he was like "Stupid Americans!!"Nonsense. He thought no such thing. Do you think Quebecois people are unaware that their linguistic community is a small dot in the otherwise English-speaking ocean of North America? Of course we know that. And we know that it's the rare Anglo who bothers to learn other languages. Of all the truly bilingual people in Canada, very few are native English speakers. On the other hand, the majority of Quebecois know at least some English, many are thoroughly bilingual. Brian Mulroony, a former PM, was native Eng speaking but grew up in Que. province. His French was flawless. I'm amused that some members here are annoyed that French survives at all in Quebec. "Should have been phased out," I see here. I'm willing to bet that many of these English-philes are also strong supporters of "States' Rights" here in the U.S.-- yet would deny a huge Canadian Province (the size of the U.S. east of the Mississippi) the VAST majority of whom are French speaking, the same right. Pretty funny, huh? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 2 04:06:05 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 19:43:08 2012. "They still hatin'" as they say. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Aug 2 04:27:25 2012, in response to Re: Man gets apology from Montreal transit ... ' they don't serve English peole ', posted by Nabinut on Thu Aug 2 01:02:06 2012. In contrast, I'm in that weird bridge where my French is above basic phrases, but because I rarely use it, it sounds unnatural and stilted with poor tense choices and conjugations. It's exacerbated by my last name and ethnic background which makes up a majority of Montreal's black population. So the presumption is that I'm a local even after I open my mouth.Although, it was funny to call STM, and push "Eight" for English* and keep getting French. It wasn't as funny on the third try while roaming on Verizon Wireless. *Similar to "Ocho" for Spanish in the States. |
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