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Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 30 01:03:02 2012 edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d In light of recent public transportation restorations across the city, Astoria’s elected officials and civic members demanded Tuesday that the MTA bring back the W subway line and the QM22 express bus. “The MTA has decided to ignore this community,” said Costa Constantinides, an Astoria district leader and a City Council candidate. The request has been a common one for Astorians. Community members had protested the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s budget cuts-inspired decision to get rid of the lines in 2010 as well as conducted petitions and more rallies to restore services after they were eliminated. The MTA did not respond to requests for comment. The W train ran from the Ditmars Boulevard subway stop at 31st Street in Astoria along the Broadway line and ended at the Whitehall Street stop in Lower Manhattan from 2004-10, and ran from Ditmars to Coney Island in Brooklyn from 2001-04. The QM22 ran from Jackson Heights to Midtown Manhattan, making stops in Astoria and Long Island City. State Sen. Michael Gianaris (D-Astoria) called getting rid of the lines in 2010 a step backward. He said many Astorians work in Manhattan and wanted the additional public transportation options. “The QM22 is a lifeline that we still hear about in our offices,” he said. The senator said he objected to how even though the MTA was restoring services in Brooklyn and the Bronx, few lines were restored in Queens. An exception was Sunnyside’s B24 weekend bus service. State Assemblywoman Aravella Simotas (D-Astoria) said in the first four years of her legal career she took the W train into Manhattan every day. She said the train was packed quickly when she was riding it and the N, which runs along a similar route, is overcrowded. “The facts are that this is a growing community,” Simotas said. “I thought the city’s mission was to get people out of their cars and into mass transit.” Michael Murphy, an member of the public transport advocacy group Transportation Alternatives, said Astoria itself has also become a destination. He said restoring the subway and bus lines would be critical and compared it to cutting a utility like gas or water. “When you cut, you’re taking something away that people need in their daily lives,” Murphy said. ---http://www.timesledger.com/stories/2012/30/subwaybusrally_at_2012_07_26_q.html
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by Gotham Bus Co.* on Mon Jul 30 05:43:46 2012, in response to Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 30 01:03:02 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d [In light of recent public transportation restorations across the city, Astoria’s elected officials and civic members demanded Tuesday that the MTA bring back the W subway line....] So what is the "Q" now, chopped liver? Or do they want three services on the Astoria Line?
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by G1Ravage* on Mon Jul 30 05:55:46 2012, in response to Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon Jul 30 05:43:46 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I don't think the letter 'Q' exists in the Astorians' alphabet.
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by andy* on Mon Jul 30 06:57:32 2012, in response to Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 30 01:03:02 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Astoria now has the Q and the N - two services. The only difference since the W was ended is that anyone going south of Canal Street must transfer to the R at say 14th or 34th St. Otherwise the Astoria residents still get the same service. This is another example of a loudmouth self-serving politician who has nothing else to do but criticize the MTA - always a good punching bag.
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by Newkirk Plaza David* on Mon Jul 30 07:56:24 2012, in response to Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by andy on Mon Jul 30 06:57:32 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d And they still have one seat access to the four Broadway local stations (28, 23, 8, and Prince Streets). Plus the Q to Manhattan runs later, what are they whining about the few people who travel to Lower Manhattan outside of rush hours?
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by New Flyer #857* on Mon Jul 30 16:10:49 2012, in response to Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Jul 30 07:56:24 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Paraphrase from my post on BusChat: If they cut one of the N/Q but quadrupled the other line, running it at 40+ TPH, they would call it a service cut and demand that the cut line be restored while leaving the other at 40 TPH.
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by New Flyer #857* on Mon Jul 30 16:14:04 2012, in response to Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 30 01:03:02 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The amount of time these people spent in one session fighting for the return of the W may very well be several times the amount of time they have lost by having the Q instead. Do these people realize that from 2001-2004 the W was essentially the present-day Q for them anyway?
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by New Flyer #857* on Mon Jul 30 16:16:13 2012, in response to Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by andy on Mon Jul 30 06:57:32 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Just rename the Q the W. Then Astoria can have it's W back. Brighton Line riders know how to handle line renamings. Just the traditional railfans who know Q belongs nowhere but on the Brighton Line would be unhappy.
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Mon Jul 30 16:58:33 2012, in response to Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jul 30 05:55:46 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d No, this demonstrates politicians as craven, ignorant opportunists. Telling your constituents that the Q actually provides more service than the W did doesn't get your name in the paper.
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by G1Ravage* on Mon Jul 30 17:01:02 2012, in response to Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 30 16:58:33 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yes! And let's not forget that I no longer have the option of using the Q14 to get to downtown Flushing! Now I only have....counting....EIGHT buses to chose from! I LOST A BUS!!!! WAAAAAAAAAHHH
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by error46146* on Mon Jul 30 17:07:36 2012, in response to Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 30 01:03:02 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Well once they open up the SAS to 96th Street they'll get the W back anyway..
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by Wallyhorse* on Wed Aug 1 01:04:40 2012, in response to Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jul 30 16:16:13 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The real problem is these politicians are probably using one or two people who are very vocal about wanting service to lower Manhattan and probably too lazy to make a transfer to the (R) anywhere before Union Square to get their name in the paper, not realizing that the (Q) actually provides more service to Astoria overall. Oh, and the (N) does run to lower Manhattan late at night when it operates via the tunnel.
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Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service
Posted by MainR3664* on Wed Aug 1 14:05:08 2012, in response to Re: Astoria wants (W), QM22 bus back in service, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 30 16:58:33 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Except that there's no longer a 1-seat ride from Astoria to the Financial District, which there was previously...people may be feeling this loss. If there's enough cars, which TA employees on here state there are NOT, it would decent to of the TA to do a few peak-of-the-peak W trains- just like there was a Continental-Whitehall N service from 1976-87... Now, with R160s, changing the signs to another letter isn't as hard as setting up a rush-hour EE would have been..
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