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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS. |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:16:08 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 21:13:31 2012. read your comments made in 2003 about the station. very interesting. Try to imagine what pictures would be worth for a view of the station itself. |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sun Jul 29 21:17:33 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 21:13:31 2012. A cop from the 102 once told my mom she could get a restraining order on a ham sandwich. I laughed and he said I'm not kiddin! |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 21:18:32 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 20:29:27 2012. stupid statement.my maintainer told me about it in 1964,he was in his late 50`s then.GEE,do you think there is a real good chance he`s dead? how are you going to get people over a 48 year period who have no connection to one another together? you ain`t.think before you type. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 21:20:35 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:16:08 2012. I have no way of getting those comments,I don`t think a pc was given to me then.if you can post them,please do. |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:22:51 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 21:13:31 2012. As a former Transit Cop, then you know what throwing "the book" at some would be like. Any charge can be made to stick, even those multi-purposed vague charges if vindictiveness warrants. As for proof of a station. If any bit of station ever existed, its long gone. Who cares??? |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:26:21 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 21:20:35 2012. The address and read your own facts, very interesting: talk.nycsubway.org/perl/read?subtalk=432067. Just have the desire to get a slege hammer and do some exploring, but that would be trespassing. or would it? since the mta says it doesn't exist. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 29 21:27:10 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 17:30:44 2012. Are you copying this info, Mr Moose? |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:27:12 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 21:20:35 2012. Here ya go TR:"Tunnel Rat" Responds to SubTalk Discussion on 76th Street Station (Queens IND) Posted by BMTman on Fri Jan 10 10:05:44 2003 (Please be advised that should you wish to contact Steve directly, you must send an email to me requesting his phone number as Steve is w/o web access and is interested in serious inquiries only. I have done my best to transcribe Steve's eight-page, hand-written response. Pardon any grammatical errors that I may have overlooked in the process.) 'I wrote the ERA article about the 76th St. & Pitkin Ave. station. Since I don't have a computer this letter is being submitted by a friend. If anybody wants to talk to me about this, feel free to contact BMTman at his email address (highlighted) and he'll forward you my phone number. Here are the facts that I know to be true, having been on the four lay-up tracks under Grant & Pitkin Avenues 50 to 60 times with ERA members who can back up this story. In the Euclid Tower it shows on the model board, and I'm quoting the board: Four tracks to 76th St. station & Cross Bay Blvd. In the Pitkin Yard Tower it shows two yard leads. Black-taped over stating "to 76th St. Station" on the four lay-up tracks. One car length away from the bumping blocks. On the express & local tracks coming from 76st St. are two signals, covered over with rotting canvas. In the signal relay room just behind the Euclid Tower is a 1947 signal schematic stating that the 2 signals -- going to the 76th St. station and beyond the concrete wall (towards Queens) -- controlled the 76th St. TOWER. These were to be installed by the contractor at a later date. You have two yard leads from Pitkin Yard that run for approximately 300 feet heading towards 76th St. They stop at a CINDERBLOCK wall. At the foot of North Conduit & Grant Ave. right where the foot-path between the Conduit Blvd starts. You can clearly see where the crossties are still in place connecting it to Pitkin Yard. The crossovers are still stacked on the ROW. Halfway down the ROW is a reverse homeball. At the base of the cinderblock wall & under the wall (I dug them out) are ties with spike holes in them. This two track lead was used to turn trains from 1948 to 1952 when it was taken out of service. First the portal was back filled with dirt. Two ERA members, Randy Litz & George Abera (deceased) saw this sometime in the early 1960's. Sometime in the 1970's a section of the tunnel had the dirt removed and a cinderblock wall with a structure door was put in'. I have eyewitness accounts of people who have been in the tunnel and station, through Pitkin Yard only. When I started with the T.A. in 1964 -- Signal Dept. -- I would ask the old timers about all the pockets I saw on the Queens Blvd. IND and found some startling information. My Maintainer (Tom Carey, deceased), worked Pitkin yard as a Helper when it first opened up in 1948. He walked the yard leads to the 76th St. station. There were 2 tracks that went a good distance beyond where the wall is today. Where they stopped was a Type 2 subway tunnel, i.e., just an IND tunnel with no tracks, no lighting or signals. Two ramps leading into the 76th St. station. The station is a full length IND station, roughed out with blue tiles on the walls stating '76 ST.'. These are local stations on a four track ROW. The four track ROW goes to where the bumping blocks are under Grant & Pitkin Ave. and extend beyond the station to approx. 79th St. In 1968, when I was a Transit cop, riding the A Train, I asked the Motorman if he knew about the 76th St. Station. He did. He said that sometime in the 1950's that section of tunnel beyond the cinderblocked wall had flooded and he had to go in on the pump train. He stated that beyond where the wall is now it was pitch black and the train went a distance, scaring the crew because they had know idea if they would run out of track into a bumping block or a wall. They finally hit water and pumped it out and left. Sometime in the mid-70's I was an NYPD Officer working in the 75th Precinct (Pitkin Yard). Two cops that I worked with then actually got into the tunnel and station thru the structure door in the cinderblock wall. The door has long since been removed). One cop was a former transit cop and knew about the station and tunnels. The other cop whose name I will not mention is also a transit cop and railroad buff and President of the L.I. Chapter of the New Haven R.R. Society. I called him up in 1998 and spoke to him for the first time in 20 years on an unrelated transit matter. After doing so, he told me without me asking about his going into the 76th St. Station. His description is as follows: His partner drove into Pitkin yard. Got the key from the Yard Master, walked him down the abandoned ROW. Opened the structure door, and walked down. Ballast for quite a distance until they were on the ramps to 76th Street. The station was roughed out, blue tile on the walls stating �76 ST�. Center entrance, full length in the mezzanine. There was no token booth or turnstiles, but there were staircases leading to the street and cemented over. The four-track ROW was just an empty tunnel, just the way my Maintainer described it. BTW, this person is online, so with a little searching, you can find him. On the street (Pitkin Ave.) from Grant to 79th St. all gratings had been removed many years ago. There is no trace of a subway below your feet, no manhole cover with NYCTS on it, etc. Over the years I have talked to half a dozen Maintainers who when they were signal holders (?), their Maintainers told them about 76th St., having been in it themselves. Keep in mind this spans a time period from 1964 to 1998 and none of these people know one another, yet their descriptions are all the same. To those of you who say it does not exist, have you been down in the layup tracks and yard leads and talked to reliable sources like I have? The answer is NO! Otherwise you would agree with me. Call me up, I will take you down there myself�so you can put the pieces of this puzzle together. For the record, the Pitkin Ave. extension was to extend to Linden Blvd & 229th St. (229th being the terminal station). At Aqueduct Racetrack, two tracks were to ramp up to the LIRR Right-of-way and two tracks to Cambria Heights. Also, don�t be so sure that the TA �knows� where all of its abandoned tunnels and stations are and regularly inspect them. Look at the Polo Grounds Shuttle. It was sealed up and forgotten about. Nobody inspected it until the homeless broke through the wall and lived in it. It�s now permanently sealed up. I was on the ROW two month ago trying to get inside. Also, in 1967, when I was still in the Signal Dept., I ran across a Maintainer who I had gone to high school with. I asked him if he knew of any abandoned tunnels and stations. He said yes, that he and his helper were working the �G� line at Bedford & Nostrand Avenues. Cleaning garbage from the ROW and rooms -- in a fan chamber -- they found a manhole cover. They opened it up and saw a rung ladder going down and smelled freshly poured concrete. Down they went. They discovered they were on a 600-foot long, two-tracked subway tunnel below the �G� train, running down Bedford Ave. No tracks, signal or lights. They had all of the TOP T.A. brass come down and take a look. Nobody knew what it was built for and NO blueprints exist of this structure. (I know I was in the T.A. blueprint room looking for this and 76th Street. NO blueprints exist even though they were built). I�ve been down there with Maintainers last year. There is a signal/power structure between the two tracks that nobody had a key for. And believe me, this guy had over 50 keys! Just about every abandoned tunnel or station I HAVE BEEN IN. There is a BMT station in Brooklyn ABOVE the local tracks on the �R� between DeKalb Ave. and Pacific St. (northbound). It was built but never used. The Chief Engineer on the project screwed up -- put it above the ROW. When they constructed the tunnel to the station, the station was unaligned, being some distance ABOVE it. A 1916 Brooklyn Eagle newspaper ran a full-page story on this and how the engineer blew his brains out when the mistake was discovered. T.A. personnel used to climb a rung ladder to chase the homeless out. The ladder has been removed. When I was on the ROW last August, I saw the edge of the platform. No way to get up there now. I hope this information has cleared up a lot of doubt on this subject. Again, if you want to discuss this further, please use the email address of BMTman to get my number, and we�ll "talk turkey".' Best regards, Steve �Tunnel Rat� Krokowski December, 2002 |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:27:48 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:22:51 2012. history! like discoverying atlantis. |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:28:15 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 29 21:27:10 2012. what info? |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:30:20 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:22:51 2012. I'm into mta history. collect mta trains and photos when can get it. This would be a prize to get pictures. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 29 21:37:10 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 17:30:44 2012. Just before you reach 76th Street, Pitkin drops in elevation about 30 or 50 feet, and so the tunnels must go down hill. Go down hill, but where?Water Problems he says? No kidding! That was the original route of the Hudson River (before the last ice age), so yes, there would be water problems down there as well as unstable soil etc. And if you do not believe your LION, then I suggest you just go and Google yourself "Hudson Canyon" and see just what you come up with. Besides a canyon that happens to be much larger than the Grand Canyon. ROAR |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:38:43 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:27:12 2012. nice information, now let's stick it to the mta and get some photos or video of this station. If I could I would. What is the price that is the question? |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:40:22 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 29 21:37:10 2012. mta says it doesn't exist. To get pictures or video of the station would stick it to them, but what is the price of doing that? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 29 21:44:40 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:28:15 2012. What randyo wrote about 76th St! Excellent info on its history! |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 21:48:07 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:26:21 2012. the mta doesn`t state anything on 76st,yes it would be criminal trespass,burglary.possession of burglars tools to name a few.I doubt anyone has been in contact with the mta about 76st.anyway,since 911 you no longer have access to the mta`s blueprint room.before all you had to do was go to 370 jay st.& leave your I.D.with security.stay as long as you want & make as many photostats of any blueprints as many as you want,all for free.now you have to mail a letter to the head of the mta and see if he will grant you permission to do so,guess what? HE WON`T.I,ve tried it several years ago& was turned down. |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:49:24 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:22:51 2012. Follow up past post.This and an old topic like; "Did FDR had prior knowledge of a "Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor", continues to fascinate transit historians. One can write a PhD thesis on the subject of 76th Street. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Redbird to J-Train Tony. Some thoughts on the 76 Street Station Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Jan 10 22:14:10 2003, in response to Re: "Tunnel Rat" Responds to SubTalk Discussion on 76th Street Station (Queens IND), posted by J-TrainTony on Fri Jan 10 20:19:14 2003. Tony: I happen to know both Doug BMT Man and Steve K. Doug is a decent and honest man and would not fabricate such a story. I have met Steve several times and spoken to him at length about this tunnel and I daresay that I am fairly knowledgeable on subway matters myself. I do not doubt Steve's veracity especially when his knowledge about other tunnels which I know to exist is so complete. What is lacking as we have said here before is hard evidence. My own opinion is that the tunnels do extend beyond the bulkheads for some distance. How far? I don't know. As far as 76 Street? I don't know that either. I say that the tunnel may extend beyond the bulkhead because the yard leads from Pitkin to 76 Street extend only a few hundred feet from the junction with K5 and K6. Switches were installed and the track was usable for those few hundred feet. Why install switches into a length of track so short as to be virtually unusable? The swictches and tracks A7 and A8 have since been removed. What exactly was constructed and when? In his history of the subway system Joe Cunningham states that the IND was extended to Broadway-East New York Avenue on December 30,1946 with plans for an extension on Pitkin Avenue and stubs for a future Jamaica Avenue Subway. Work on the Pitkin Avenue Route WAS ALREADY UNDERWAY. The line was completed to a full terminal at Euclid Avenue with a 40 track 585 car yard and an inspection shed. Provisions for extensions toward the Fulton Street El and along Pitkin Avenue were made. The line opened on November 29,1948. Bulkeads were installed in four locations. On the aforementioned tracks A7 and A8. On tracks K5 and K6 (since removed) which connect Pitkin Yard to the Fulton Street El. On tracks K1 and K2 (since removed) which connect Euclid Avenue and Grant Avenue and on tracks A1,A2,A3 and A4 at about Elderts Lane. The Board of Transportation in 1951 amended their 1949 Report of Subway Extensions to include a takeover of the Rockaway Line. Note that this was two years after the IND had reached Euclid Avenue. What promted this amendment was the May 8, 1950 trestle fire on the LIRR Rockaway Line which resulted in a permanent suspension of LIRR service to the Rockaways via Jamaica Bay. Extension of subway service to the Rockaways had been talked about for many years and indeed there was rapid transit service to the Rockaways by the BRT from 1898 to 1918 via the Chestnut Street Incline. Provision was made during construction of the IND Queens Line at 63 Drive to connect to the LIRR. The loss of direct Rockaway service neccsitated a cheaper and faster solution to provide transit service to the Rockaways. A BOT approved $10,154,000 to build a connection from the Euclid Avenue Terminal to the BMT Fulton Street El. This involved removing the existing bulkhead on tracks K 1 and K2 and building a new station at Grant Avenue. Note that Grant Avenue Station had not been built when the line was extended to Euclid Avenue. The bulkheads on Pitkin Yard leads; K5 and K6 were probably removed at this time. If the Pitkin Line had been constructed to 76 Street why was it not used as a terminal? The answer is in the track plan for 76 Street. It was to be a four track local station with two side platforms. There were to be two sets of double crossover east of the station but only between the express and local tracks. It would not have been possible to build a temporary terminal here as was done at Rockaway Avenue for several years. I have a track plan of the entire area drawn by Mr David Rogoff who was probably the most knowledgeable subway construction historian of his day. Mr Rogoff states that the tunnels east of the bulheads and the entire 76 Street Station were never built. He was alive and active in railfanning at the time of the original construction and would certainly followed it very closely. While I cannot prove or disprove the existence of the 76 Street Station I hope that this post will clarify the situation somewhat. I would not however doubt Steve's honest beliefs or Doug's intentions. Best Wishes, Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 22:01:21 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:27:12 2012. thanks for reposting that.like I said that was before someone gave me a used pc.ps,since I first started posting on subchat I told everyone that if you want to meet me for coffee/lunch/dinner just say the word.over the years only 3 people who post here did so. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 22:08:14 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 22:01:21 2012. I,m calling it a nite,more 76st chatter 2-morrow. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 29 22:10:15 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:27:12 2012. Again, why are you obsessed with an unused station shell and some roadbeds? You are not 'sticking it' to the MTA. They couldn't give 2 shits about what you find there but you might find yourself in legal hot water, especially if unauthorized and caught red handed! No one from here is going there. And forget about a "legal' exploration. We can't even visit Bob Diamond's LIRR tunnel anymore. I'm glad I did, while it was still available for tours. Times have changed and the opportunities that we once had no longer exist! |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sun Jul 29 22:12:01 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 29 21:37:10 2012. Hey LION don't forget the layups are already 30 feet lower due to the current "A" line into Grant ave station, and a crossover from the yard leads. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 29 22:13:08 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 22:01:21 2012. I'd like to meet you, Steve! |
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Posted by Gamera on Sun Jul 29 22:15:38 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:40:22 2012. do they tell you it does not exist or do they just refuse to answerwe talk to people who say mta just ignores letters they get on the topic |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 22:23:38 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Gamera on Sun Jul 29 22:15:38 2012. I believe it's to cover up non-union work as the story mentions. what reason would they have to cover up this? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 29 22:30:51 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 22:23:38 2012. Because the USAF has a UFO stashed in there.ROAR |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 22:37:40 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 29 22:30:51 2012. hee,hee, probably right. They should open it and make money on it as a tour. They need the money. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 29 22:43:36 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 22:37:40 2012. No Joke: http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=356406 |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jul 29 22:45:26 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 20:06:16 2012. Wow, this thread sure has grown.I tend to believe tunnelrat about the partially-completed station being there, as he says a number of unconnected people giving the same description is pretty good evidence. But the station was definitely never actually open for service, not for a day, not for an hour, not ever. The story that it was is fiction. |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sun Jul 29 22:46:05 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 22:01:21 2012. Next time I come back to NY it's a must! |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 23:07:46 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by mike cruz on Sun Jul 29 22:46:05 2012. what is a must? going down there with a hammer and breaking the wall? like pink floyd? |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 23:12:08 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by mike cruz on Sun Jul 29 22:46:05 2012. pink floyd the 76th street wall. coming to a sub chat near you! "we don't need no freakin wall"! "The men are coming to tear the wall", hey, "mta", leave us to destroy the wall. all around the world now, they want us to break the wall! scene from pink floyd "the wall". |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sun Jul 29 23:13:38 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 23:07:46 2012. LOL meetin TR. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 30 00:08:57 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 20:25:59 2012. Unfortunately, that wall would not lead to the station. It would have led (IIRC) to the fly-over that would have gone into the station. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jul 30 00:11:11 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 29 20:09:16 2012. A few sticks of dynamite would do the job. J/K |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 30 01:05:11 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 22:01:21 2012. I'd love to hear more about the mystery tunnel under 108th st in Queens..also about the LIC tunnel used by NYPD as a firing range... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 30 01:33:23 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sat Jul 28 19:33:58 2012. Not exactly the way you go about asking for information..or at least pointed in the right direction...but thats on you.There really nothing more anyone can tell you HERE, outside of the MTA/TA, about the unfinished subway route.. The BEST OPTION would be to contact the TA..and wish for the best. |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Jul 30 03:08:46 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 23:12:08 2012. we are all floydidans.chud1 |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 30 03:50:38 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jul 29 22:45:26 2012. That is what I have been saying all along!!! |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 30 03:52:03 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 19:59:19 2012. No problem with Jimmy Walker but the time frame for the 76 S area is much later, in keeping with the William O'Dwyer period! |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 30 04:09:32 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:27:12 2012. AS for the so called "BMT" station between Pacific and DeKalb, from what I have seen of NYCPSC documentation, that was built in anticipation of the IRT getting the 4 Av subway which did not happen and which caused the IRT to withdraw from the dual contracts for a brief period, As for the contractor "blowing his brains out," that story was also attributed to the 36 St/4 Av station which was originally intended to be south of its present location but was changed when it was decided to use the 38 St cut to connect to the Culver and West End rather that the new turnouts which had been constructed. Neither of those stories has been documented in any of the PSC reports I have from that period. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 30 04:12:57 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 21:49:24 2012. See my posts on this subject! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 30 05:11:10 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:05:17 2012. you've got to be a kid..only a kid would post something like that on a public messaging board.. forget about trackwalking ,dude. it'll get you killed or worst. |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Jul 30 07:03:47 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Mon Jul 30 04:09:32 2012. What year would these incidents have taken place? I have almost a complete set of PSC Reports, at least until the early 1930s. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jul 30 09:54:13 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by chud1 on Mon Jul 30 03:08:46 2012. LION is *sure* that ewe will be FLOODED down there!ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jul 30 09:56:08 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jul 30 00:11:11 2012.  Just ewe try to get past TSA! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 30 13:16:53 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 21:40:22 2012. We could always do what was suggested before: ground-penetrating radar. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Mon Jul 30 14:35:12 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by jabrams on Sat Jul 28 11:34:42 2012. Clearly that was a fantrip of the Train of Many Colors.--mark |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jul 30 15:56:51 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sat Jul 28 22:35:38 2012. You dug it up, pal, not me! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jul 30 15:57:58 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 29 22:30:51 2012. Hangar 76!!! |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Mon Jul 30 19:10:09 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 29 22:13:08 2012. where do you live? |
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