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Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jul 28 21:39:51 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 28 21:33:42 2012. SHUT THE HELL UP!DON`T GIVE A CHANGE OF LIFE WOMAN ANY IDEAS.MY DEATH WILL BE ON YOUR HANDS AND CONSENCE,IF YOU HAVE ANY YOU DOG! |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sat Jul 28 21:42:31 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jul 28 21:19:27 2012. Sent. |
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Posted by The Silence on Sat Jul 28 22:32:52 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sat Jul 28 00:10:51 2012. font size = verbal volume |
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Posted by the moose on Sat Jul 28 22:33:41 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jul 28 21:39:51 2012. what the hell are you smoking? |
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Posted by the moose on Sat Jul 28 22:35:38 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 28 21:07:37 2012. what fuels your obsession to talk on this? |
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Posted by the moose on Sat Jul 28 22:36:43 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 28 21:32:40 2012. you're a funny guy! |
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Posted by B1bus on Sat Jul 28 22:51:56 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 28 21:32:40 2012. I used to give Lunch there in the 90's. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jul 28 22:54:12 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sat Jul 28 22:33:41 2012. kielbasa. |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 00:03:27 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by B1bus on Sat Jul 28 22:51:56 2012. funny guy! |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 00:04:38 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jul 28 22:54:12 2012. since you're a tunnelrat, maybe you can sneak inside that station and get the lowdown. no, I like pussa. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 00:07:52 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 00:04:38 2012. No known entrances,all have been sealed up since at least 1978 when 2 cops I worked with did get in there.didn`t you mean to spell pussa with a Y ? hehehe. |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 00:14:40 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 00:07:52 2012. know how to spell. being decent stupid! |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 29 07:51:10 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sat Jul 28 19:52:03 2012. LION doubts that nobody could have bid on such a contract without union labor. Could a contractor have hired some no-union people for some sort of a task. Sure he could have, but it would have been minor work like sweeping the floor or something. Even that would set off union workers like a firecracker and would keep the rumor going Forever.ROAR |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 29 08:41:33 2012, in response to 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Fri Jul 27 23:47:55 2012. Can't somebody on this board give him an honest answer? Are railfans too much into themselves that they have to make fun of somebody who isn't into the board's private topics and private jokes? Sheesh!!! |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jul 29 08:43:50 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sat Jul 28 19:52:03 2012. I suspect that any other site which talks about the "non-union" issue at 76 St. simply copied the information from Brennan, and that he simply made the story up to provide a semi-plausible "New York" explanation for why the station would be hidden. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 10:52:54 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 29 08:41:33 2012. GEE,I thought I gave everybody on this board a complete & detailed answer at least 20 0r more times. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 29 11:42:26 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 10:52:54 2012. Except everything you posted is not proff 76th Street was ever finished. A board in a tower is not proof the station was ever built. Go out to 76th Street with ground penetrating radar and it will show NOTHING is there. Subway stations don't just vanish. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 12:01:03 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 29 11:42:26 2012. so YOU have been out there with ground penatrating radar? no,stations don`t vanish but blueprints do.I had this same argument with a board member of the ERA about 10 years ago.:show me the blueprints"he said. what really was amusing about this encounter was that he had just shown me & a select handfull of others the blueprints for the signals from beyound the curtain wall up to 106st.I told him "did you ever think that the way you got the blueprints was the same way some other buff who knew it would never be built saved them for posterity?" he was at a loss for words.a friend of his who worked for the t.a.at the time saved them from the garbage & gave them to him.in 1964 I heard from my maintainer that when pitkin yard was first opened he worked the yard as a signal helper.he & his maintainer walked the then opened yard leads to the partially built station.he described it the same way 2 cops I worked with and several members of this board who talked to their friends who had been in the station all described it the same way.please explain this fact to me of how can this be? none of these people have a connection to one another yet they all describe the station exactly alike.what research have you done on this matter? I would like to know.ps,say hello to gene carson for me. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 29 12:46:36 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jul 28 21:39:51 2012. Hey, I survived my wife's 'changes' for several years. You just have to hide all of the guns (not easy- I had 12 Lugers!), knives, and other sharp objects. But, after a few years, they are finished with them. Can't say the same for all of these 76th Street threads. Why can't people just accept that the IND built the tunnel that included a 76th St station shell. During or after WWII, they decided to connect all service to the Liberty Ave el, walled up the unused tunnel, and that was it. WHY DO PEOPLE STILL KEEP ASKING ABOUT 76TH STREET, IN CAPITAL LETTERS, THIS TIME??? YOU HAVE TOLD THEM AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW, YET THEY CRAVE MORE AND MORE!!! |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 13:04:30 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jul 29 08:43:50 2012. I can't understand why someone would go to the extreme to make this up. I believe the station exist because I read about it in other stories. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 29 13:19:15 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 13:04:30 2012. "I can't understand why someone would go to the extreme to make this up. I believe the station exist because I read about it in other stories."See! That PROVES the existence of God! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 29 13:33:53 2012, in response to 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Fri Jul 27 23:47:55 2012. 
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 29 14:37:34 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 13:04:30 2012. Most of us believe that some type of station shell exists at 76th St.The people here have told you all that they know about it. What is your obsession with this place? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jul 29 14:40:02 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 13:04:30 2012. Rumors about the station existed long before that web page, but I'm not sure the story about the use of non-union labor having something to do with hiding it did. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Jul 29 15:35:30 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 29 08:41:33 2012. One of the problems on any discussion board is treating a question that has been asked a hundred times as if it were brand new. I've been through that on other boards, and that problem itself is nothing new. If this were a different type of board, perhaps a "sticky" would be made of one 76 St discussion so that at least all newcomers might look at that first and know everything that has ever been posted here about that topic. If they asked the same questions after reading that, then they would be subject to the supreme penalty that military law can provide. |
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Posted by jabrams on Sun Jul 29 17:09:09 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 12:01:03 2012. Are any of these people (besides you) that have seen the station still alive? |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 17:15:39 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jul 29 14:40:02 2012. I have always suspected that there was some work performed on the station when construction resumed on it at the end of WWII which accounts for the station shel as being described as having the S/B station wall partially tiled. That would seem to indicate that TR's comment about no further work being done past 1942 is a bit inaccurate. There was an extremely corrupt city administration in place after WWII and while this is the first I am hearing about non union labor being used, I think that there was some sort of underhanded operation going on that necessitated a cover up that exists to this day. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 29 17:28:59 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 12:01:03 2012. I suggested go out there with ground penetrating radar, that would be the final proff it does or does not exist. as I posted before, a fully built station just would not vanish. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 17:30:44 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 29 12:46:36 2012. I will refrain from using capitals although I should shout this since I have explained it many times in threads on this subject. After unification was achieved in 1940, the plan from that time on was to BOTH connect the IND to the Fulton St El AND continue the subway down Pitkin Av and connect it to the Rockaway line from a portal below the LIRR ROW. The Euclid model board bears this out as the 1948 photo of it clearly shows the subway continuing to 76 St and the proposed Grant Av station. A contract book that I saw of the connection to the Fulton El states that beyond (RR south) of Hudson St interlocking existing BMT signaling was to be used indicating that there were no plans for what we now know as Liberty Jct. A plan dated in 1950 concerning new subways, however shows a connection from the Fulton El to the LIRR ROW at a point S/O Rockaway Blvd (Lib Jct) indicating that at some point between the time of the original plans in 1948 and 1950, something happened that caused the city to cease further construction down Pitkin Av and connect to the LIRR at the present location. Why the plans were changed seems to be as much of a mystery as the existence of the station shell itself but I heard somewhere which I can't recall that the contractors encountered some soil and water problems in the area past 76 St and that is why construction was halted. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 17:34:36 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 29 17:28:59 2012. The problem is that from the many descriptions I have received from people who have been there, the station was not "fully built" but just partially constructed. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 29 17:45:45 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 17:34:36 2012. There would still have to be steel in the walls and rebar in the platforms. That would reflect fairly well up to about 40 feet down. I'm guessing most of the soil there is clay. |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:00:32 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 29 14:37:34 2012. same as the obsession you may have with being on this site talking about mta. I'm a collector of many mta material. |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:01:28 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 29 13:33:53 2012. cute! |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:02:53 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 17:15:39 2012. The only real way to know is to look into the news on the day this station was closed and two a sneaky midnight tour to the bulkhead and find out. |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:05:17 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jul 29 14:40:02 2012. we could only find out with a sneak tour to the bulkhead during midnight hours. Or go to the area where rumored to have the staircase on 76 street where it's covered up and get in thur there. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 29 18:08:54 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:05:17 2012. You seem a bit obsessed. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 18:13:07 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:02:53 2012. The station shell is incomplete and it was never intended to be a terminal so it was never opened in the first place so it couldn't have been "closed." |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 18:17:22 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:05:17 2012. Since I was first there (at street level) in 1962, the entire area has been done over so that any possible trace of either ventilation gratings, or provisions for entrances is long gone. There were even further changes made since I went there in 1983 and observed an IND manhole cover about a half block east of the bulkhead wall. When I went there 5 years ago, the street had been repaved and that manhole was gone. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 18:17:35 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:02:53 2012. The station shell is incomplete and it was never intended to be a terminal so it was never opened in the first place so it couldn't have been "closed." |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Sun Jul 29 19:41:26 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Jul 29 15:35:30 2012. In my experience as a developer and webmaster for many sites over last 17 years, anyone who isn't adept enough to use Google to find stuff on a website isn't going to read stickies, either. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 19:59:19 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 17:15:39 2012. randy,did you ever hear of mayor jimmy walker? stole a whole lot from the city,when caught fled to europe on the "ILDE DE FRANCE" with his girlfriend.sorry if I mispelled the liners name. |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 20:06:16 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by randyo on Sun Jul 29 18:17:35 2012. This is one of the great mysteries of the mta. Everybody has an opinion on this and their own idea what still lies there. Somehow we are someone has to find out what is really there. If the web site I read and others hold water. What is non-union work? was the station really done in blue tile? is it complete? incomplete? somehow I will find out. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 29 20:09:16 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 20:06:16 2012. "I will find out."At the wall at the end one of the tunnels leading to what was to be the 76th ST station, there is a shovel. It only takes a flashlight and a dream. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 20:25:59 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 29 20:09:16 2012. A whole lot of sledge hammers too!ps,for those who DON`T know,thats my shovel as I tried to dig under the Right section of the wall at least 5 or more years ago.when I did dig enough dirt,not sand to get the shovel at least the length of the shovel more dirt fell in to cover the hole.I tried several more times with the same result.the left side of the wall had too much ballast plus a rotted out tie WITH the spike holes clearly visible UNDER the wall. |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 20:28:12 2012, in response to 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Fri Jul 27 23:47:55 2012. Dear The Moose.If you believe that "someone" must report this station to the MTA, please, be that self appointing individual to make the thype of report you feel should be made. However, be prepared to provide the facts, minus the hearsay rumors when making your complaint. Go for it baby........ |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 20:29:27 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jul 28 17:10:10 2012. Eye witnesses who for some reason can not be brought together and questioned, yes. |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 20:30:45 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:05:17 2012. Posted by the moose on Sun Jul 29 18:05:17 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS.we could only find out with a sneak tour to the bulkhead during midnight hours. Or go to the area where rumored to have the staircase on 76 street where it's covered up and get in thur there. Who is the we??? |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 20:42:32 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 12:01:03 2012. Could a DA go forward & present the facts as they stand with 76th Street at present to a Grand Jury to seek an indictment?To quote SGT Friday, the facts mam, just the facts..... |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 21:08:56 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 20:30:45 2012. being an ind.station,center entrance like the rest of the A line from liberty ave.to shepherd ave. the staircases would be at 76st&pitkin ave.the only thing your`re going to see is a plain sidewalk.nobody is going to be on the layup tracks below grant ave or the cut from the yard leads for the most part. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 29 21:13:31 2012, in response to Re: 76 TH STATION BROOKLYN/QUEENS., posted by Handbrake on Sun Jul 29 20:42:32 2012. this ain`t dragnet and the facts have been presented more times than I care to remember.and yes,AN D.A.in new york city could get an indictment.haven`t you ever heard that in nyc you could indict a HAM SANDWICH!the ball is in your court perry mason. |
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