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Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:05:33 2012 Allegedly going to "triple passenger capacity" (whatever that means) and to feed the pipe dream of turning the station into a "high speed rail hub". Corruption knows no end, does it . . . say, maybe they shouldn't have closed all those other stations like Dearborn, Central (IC) and Grand Central (B&O), the latter two having been razed by liberals (particularly Daley's machine, and with Amtrak's help since they moved operations out of those three stations)? Talk about slitting one's throat and then wanting to eat.Washington Post
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 25 20:28:21 2012, in response to Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:05:33 2012. Nice to see Christie's money going to some use somewhere. :) |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Jul 25 20:29:08 2012, in response to Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:05:33 2012. The story talks about Capitol Hill and the "District", so it sounds like this is about Washington's Union Station, not Chicago's. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station |
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Posted by 5119 on Wed Jul 25 20:31:32 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Jul 25 20:29:08 2012. Instead of using the money to overhaul the NE Corridor and speed up the Acela Local, OOps, I mean express! |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 25 20:32:01 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Jul 25 20:29:08 2012. Shhhhh! Don't disturb Olog while he's looking for Germans. :) |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of DC's Union Station |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jul 25 20:40:17 2012, in response to Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:05:33 2012. HaHaHaHa. Olog has caught Chris-itis - chronic failure of reading comprehension.Mayor Daley was mayor of "the District," - same district represented by Eleanor Holmes Norton? LOLOL. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:40:42 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Jul 25 20:29:08 2012. OK, pwn3d mys3lf. That's what happens when I'm rushing to feed the kittehs. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jul 25 20:43:11 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:40:42 2012. Good of you to man up. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station |
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Posted by mike cruz on Wed Jul 25 21:37:22 2012, in response to Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:05:33 2012. Just build a damn HSR from DC to Orlando or Tampa so I can make trips to NY alot easier LOL. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jul 25 22:14:15 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:40:42 2012. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 22:23:54 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jul 25 22:14:15 2012. I'm still mad that I haven't seen a bobcat after living in NEPA for almost a decade. Several black bears, foxes, one copperhead (I think), even the occasional coyote, but no bobcats yet. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of DC's Union Station |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jul 25 23:26:00 2012, in response to Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:05:33 2012. Union Station Master Plan (13.8 MB PDF file)Washington DC Executive Summary 07 25 2012 Prepared by Parsons Brinckerhoff Word over at Greater Greater Washington is "It first gave an exclusive to the Washington Post, though the paper's article didn't include many details of the actual plan (and a couple of errors) and I encourage readers to look at the plan itself first." John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Jul 26 06:43:36 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 22:23:54 2012. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Jul 26 10:25:31 2012, in response to Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:05:33 2012. Does the drawing have to look like a big bus station?I mean I like modern, but I keep seeing the same modern everywhere. Chicagos station at least currently looks like a station. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 26 10:55:51 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by orange blossom special on Thu Jul 26 10:25:31 2012. I got the station wrong; attention was divided at the time. They want to do this to WAS. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jul 26 11:34:55 2012, in response to Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:05:33 2012. Grand Central Station Chicago was abandoned by C&O/B&O in 1969 before Amtrak was even a bill in Congress. Secondly, the drive to shove all LD passenger trains in Chicago into a "real" union station was underway in the 30s. Having to change stations was a PITA. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jul 26 12:48:38 2012, in response to Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:05:33 2012. Phase 1 of the project sounds rather sensible and fairly economical, and something which will greatly improve passenger access to the trains over the current airport style concourse. But I guess if you can't be bothered to read the article to determine which city you're talking about then expecting any railfan to read the implementation phases is simply asking far too much. Headlines are the only part of a story which have to be read, apparently. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 26 13:27:37 2012, in response to Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 25 20:05:33 2012. It's.....HIDEOUS. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jul 26 18:08:55 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 26 13:27:37 2012. AGREED, it doesn't hold a candle to the current Union Station. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Thu Jul 26 22:39:29 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jul 26 11:34:55 2012. There were a number of proposals, as late as a mid-Fifties scheme to combine Grand Central, LaSalle, and Dearborn into a single facility just west of the existing LaSalle...which would have left Chicago with four main-line stations, still an improvement over six. And then there was the 1920's proposal, for which I've seen very detailed drawings from IC files, for a truly monumental station on approximately the Central Station site, supposedly just for the IC and its Michigan Central and Big Four tenants, but surely big enough and appropriately sited to have accommodated everything except perhaps C&NW and Milwaukee. And before those there was the Burnham Plan's suggestion for a single grand station west of the river, between Clinton and Canal Streets. (Though even this, I think, would have worked better for commuters if supplemented by two or three suburban stations on the IC east of Michigan Avenue, perpaps with a tunnel under the Chicago River to permit through operation with electrified C&NW and CM&StP suburban services.)Amtrak did a Good Thing in 1971-72 when it consolidated all remaining intercity service into Union Station, though that facility as it now exists has been outgrown for both intercity and commuter traffic. Alan Follett |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 27 12:01:28 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Alan Follett on Thu Jul 26 22:39:29 2012. Amtrak may have done a Good Thing then, but how good was it in the long term if expansion is an expensive PITA? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 27 16:09:08 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 27 12:01:28 2012. All that glass. Some is necessary for natural light, but stil over done.It will be nicknamed Washington Union Airport or the Corning Glass Center at the Capital. |
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Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Washington Union Station |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 17:15:33 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak proposing colossal $7 billion for overhaul of Chicago Union Station, posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 27 16:09:08 2012. More fixing what ain't broken. If the Acela Express had steps and trapdoors, they wouldn't be jamming up the upper level high platforms. |
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