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SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012 Try not to laugh. (I tried . . . yes, I tried . . .)Philadelphia Inquirer
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jul 27 09:03:28 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. well, they had real electric trains, and I still can't find better bus schedule anywhere in the country than theirs. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 27 09:03:44 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. Nice to see that ass-kissing and palm greasing perseveres at APTA |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 09:09:15 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jul 27 09:03:28 2012. they had real electric trainsThey had real electric trolleys too, until they canceled three of the routes and only brought one back. I still can't find better bus schedule anywhere in the country than theirs They do love their buses. But they love them at the expense of rail. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 09:10:34 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 27 09:03:44 2012. It's laid on thick. Worth 10¹² SMH at least. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jul 27 10:58:05 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. Wow, that makes me want to move to Canada. Our whole country is useless. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 12:19:30 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jul 27 10:58:05 2012. Canada? They're big losers per the APTA. SEPTA's the best in North America, not just the USA, according to them. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 12:32:34 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 09:09:15 2012. Er, they HAVE 6 real electric trolley lines running in the city of Philadelphia, and 3 suburban ones too (depending on your definition of "trolley")...why do people keep forgetting this?How many are in New York and DC? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jul 27 12:35:19 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jul 27 10:58:05 2012. Not so fast. My buddy who lives in Vancouver was on the new airport line the day it opened (I took him on BART for day one when he was a kid) reports the PPP builders made the platforms so short they can't run long enough trains for the ridership demand. So that city has several lines each w/one off equipment. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 12:37:49 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. For all the things that SEPTA has accomplished with award winning station renovations, technology upgrades, strengthening relationships with stakeholders, it's huge efforts in improving customer service and sustainability, and more...all without drastically slashing service or steeply increasing fares in spite of the economy and a significant state transportation funding crisis... SEPTA deserves this. I hope they continue this momentum to further improve the system and to continue to turn the "SEPTA Stigma" around to something much more positive. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 12:39:55 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 12:32:34 2012. Not a relevant question. And it certainly does not elevate SEPTA to "the best" by itself. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 12:42:03 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 12:37:49 2012. What, Silverliner Vs? Broken promises? Almost internal-combustituting the trackless trolley routes? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 13:25:51 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. This brings up interesting questions:1. How much of a bribe did SEPTA pay the APTA? 2. What sex acts did SEPTA officials perform on APTA officials? 3. How much weed and beer was consumed by APTA officials when this decision was reached? 
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 13:26:38 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jul 27 10:58:05 2012. I can think of a transit system better than SEPTA. All of them. Even the ones I've never stepped foot on. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 13:35:20 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 12:37:49 2012.  Until 2 weeks ago, they were using cars built during the Cuban Missile crisis. SEPTA has still not recovered it's pre-1983 strike ridership. It's still not restored service to Quakertown, Newton, Reading or West Chester. They have absolutely no automated ticketing machines. They run the bare minimum length trains on every line. Some of it's stations are an embarrassment (Eddington). Need I go on? SEPTA is an underfunded joke of a system. Every time I went down to SEPTA-land, I got the distinct feeling that I was riding a system of a former Soviet bloc nation or a poorly funded South American transit system. |
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Posted by The Silence on Fri Jul 27 13:35:48 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 12:32:34 2012. The subway-surface routes are not in the same catagory as Girard Ave.and if we're going to tack on routes outside the city, I think the tri-state should get some level of credit for the HBLR and NCS. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 13:43:12 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Silence on Fri Jul 27 13:35:48 2012. HBLR and NCS are not even affiliated with the MTA, though, while the Media-Sharon Hill Lines are directly operated by SEPTA. By your definition Philadelphians should be claiming credit for the River LINE... |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 13:48:04 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 12:39:55 2012. Of course this is relevant, as you and many others keep condemning SEPTA for not keeping all of its streetcar lines in operation while it's one of the very few cities in North America that even HAS a streetcar network. |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Fri Jul 27 13:54:20 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. Is it a joke? |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 14:04:31 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 13:35:20 2012. SEPTA is an underfunded joke of a system.The lack of funding is a huge reason why SEPTA is so deserving of this award. Despite the epic fail that was Act 44, SEPTA has managed to keep its head above water without being billions of dollars in debt, regularly slashing service by a severe margin, and steeply raising fares like most of the transit systems out there in the US. All the while being one of the first agencies in the nation to open its data to app developers and partnering with companies to test regenerative braking systems and such on its city rapid transit lines. I'm not mad, I just see the changes and improvements that SEPTA has been making on a daily basis and shake my head at the people who still yell at SEPTA for not running all of these streetcar lines throughout the city. All this despite the fact that it's in the minority when it comes to even HAVING a streetcar system, much less a system that's been in operation for so many years. Is there room for improvement? Of course, there's plenty! Are there crappy stations like Eddington? Sure, but then there are rebuilt stations like Langhorne, North Wales, Ambler, Fox Chase, and most recently Croydon that are fantastic. Is the fare system in need of an upgrade? Definitely so, but even this antiquated system allows people to buy passes that can be used on all the modes that SEPTA operates, and the new system will keep this in tact. All this at a time when the other big system in the state basically cut its service in half... |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 14:07:00 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 13:35:20 2012. And I'm not saying that SEPTA has been perfect all along either, and I've definitely been a critic of the system. However, the past few years it really has started to turn around a lot. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 27 14:27:42 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 13:48:04 2012. The lack of streetcars/light rail in NYC is a stain on it, but that battle was over nearly 60 years ago.SEPTA has improved from its nadir, but they still have several commuter lines that haven't run through to their terminals in years, and they have a barely latent hostility to surface rail. They absurdly failed to restore street railway service on the 15 for over a year after it was ready for service because (they said) they didn't want to face down local residents over street parking on a stretch of a few blocks from the car house. They apparently would love to forget about restoring service on the 56 and 23. The latter has freshly rebuilt track near Germantown. They let most of the trolley system that survived NCL disappear by attrition. Abandonment by suspension. They still have a handful of lines, but have they extended any? (the partial restoration of 36 was another "suspension). Any new lines? Other cities that had none at all now have actual "systems," like Denver. Or car city: Los Angeles. Is their system actively maintaining a state of good repair, like New York? Are they opening new rapid transit routes, like Chicago? I like Philly a lot, but "best" seems like a political designation. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 14:29:51 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 27 14:27:42 2012. The only thing I like about SEPTA is it's variety. It has subways, els, surface trolleys and traditional commuter rail. The problem is that, outside the subway and el, the services provided are substandard. Also, services cut in the 1980's have never returned. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 27 14:41:54 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. For sampling purposes, the winner of the award in 2011 was Santa Monica's Big Blue Bus, and in 2010, Société de Transport de Montréal. |
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Posted by CJ on Fri Jul 27 14:46:11 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. Well congratulations SEPTA and keep up the good work. I guess. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 27 14:48:41 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jul 27 12:35:19 2012. So that city has several lines each w/one off equipment.IIRC, the RFP for the Canada Line indicated that PPP was "necessary" for the financing of the line, and that inter-compatibility would end up rigging the bid toward Bombardier, so that requirement was eliminated to ensure fairness with the other bidders. FWIW, given that the line is fully automated, they're probably capable of stupid pet tricks with tighter headways before they'll need to go to multiple cars, especially since they have nearly no labour costs for operating trains. Allegedly, TransLink and the PPP partner were never expecting such high levels of usage. BTW, I'll quickly note that the Evergreen Line is being built as an extension of the existing Millennium Line and thus using existing BBD ART design specs. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jul 27 14:57:54 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. It's a trade association award - it's not worth getting up in arms about. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 27 16:01:38 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 13:35:20 2012. OK, so why is APTA kissing their ass ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 27 16:03:47 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 14:07:00 2012. But best in North America ? What's wrong with Salt Lake, Denver, Seattle's various systems, Tri-Met, Toronto, Montreal ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 27 16:07:09 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jul 27 14:57:54 2012. Yes, trade association people can write off their fares, and need not be concerned with SEPTA charging an on-board penalty even though they have no TVM's on their commuter trains.Then they prematurely scrapped all their Silverliner II's so as to avoid an FRA waiver, and forgot the fact the AEM-7's are dropping like flies, and the SL-V's are still buggy. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 27 16:11:17 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 27 14:41:54 2012. While I am not exhaustively familiar with the entire SEPTA system, I would suspect that MTA/NYCT by itself operates more trains than the entire SEPTA system including its commuter and suburban operations. If you add in the MTA's M/N and LIRR operations along with the surface system and MTA Bus. I don't think another transit system in the country can come even close. What many uninformed people don't realize when other transit systems are compared to MTA is that what are "suburbs" in other metropolitan areas such as Boston, San Francisco and Washington DC were absorbed into the city of New York at the end of the 19th Century. Based on that, I wouldn't consider SEPTA a "large" transit system and if you consider that its commuter and suburban operations are included, than it raises the question as to what constitutes a "transit system" in the first place. How can you compare true transit systems line WMATA and CTA which operate only "rapid transit" lines and intra city buses or BART which operate Rapid transit lines and no buses with a system like SEPTA and MBTA which operates what amounts to a system that also includes commuter railroads? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 16:30:48 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Gold_12TH on Fri Jul 27 13:54:20 2012. If so, I'm waiting for the punchline . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 16:32:58 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Silence on Fri Jul 27 13:35:48 2012. Uh, no. The NCS was ruined by turning it into "NLR", and they spent way too much money on HBLR to the point of it being utterly unconscionable. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 16:34:36 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 27 16:07:09 2012. "Prematurely" as in how many . . . ? Those cars were almost in their 50s, remember. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 27 17:01:27 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 16:34:36 2012. How about retain a half dozen for another 6 months ? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jul 27 17:04:33 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jul 27 14:57:54 2012. got that right. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jul 27 17:05:07 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jul 27 14:57:54 2012. got that right. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 17:14:31 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jul 27 14:57:54 2012. Who's getting up in arms? I was laughing at it. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 27 17:45:35 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 14:29:51 2012. Trolley buses too. And don't forget the 100 Norristown Line. There's nothing quite like it anywhere. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 17:52:25 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 27 17:45:35 2012. It's a bus on a subway track. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jul 27 20:24:11 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 17:52:25 2012. 100% Bull!!!! The Norristown line is an electric third rail line. NO RUBBER TIRES IN USE!!!!! |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jul 27 20:32:32 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by CJ on Fri Jul 27 14:46:11 2012. When SEPTA was created, it started to eliminate all surface streetcar lines until all were bustituted. 15 (Girard Avenue) was put back ONLY because the CITY wanted it. What did SEPTA do? They only sent 18 PCC cars to Brookville for rebuilding. If more than 3 cars are out of service, buses are used since there are no spare cars. Some fans call SEPTA NCL (National City Lines) reborn. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Fri Jul 27 21:33:44 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 27 17:52:25 2012. It's a bus on a subway track.I disagree...who is with me!   Back in the day:  |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 27 21:54:33 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by kp5308 on Fri Jul 27 21:33:44 2012. Where's the catenary? |
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Posted by 600vdc on Fri Jul 27 22:09:41 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. Are you sure that you got the right organization? Are you sure that it wasn't named best by the American Putrid Transportation Asylum? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 27 22:28:17 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 14:04:31 2012. I have to imagine that the APTA looked at SEPTA and then looked at PAT...which is having all sorts of trouble. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 27 22:29:51 2012, in response to SEPTA named North America's "best large transit system" by APTA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 27 08:11:34 2012. A reason why NOT to laugh, however: In Pennsylvania, SEPTA and PAT have had funding issues for some time. SEPTA has made it work, but PAT has had to keep cutting service and reduce its service area (I'm not sure if the airport remains in PAT's service area). That alone warrants it. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 27 22:33:30 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 27 16:01:38 2012. Look at PAT...you'll have your answer there. Both are subject to the same funding problems from Harrisburg. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Jul 28 00:09:24 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 13:43:12 2012. Or PATCO, for that matter. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jul 28 00:25:17 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA named North America's ''best large transit system'' by APTA, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 27 12:32:34 2012. We have the world greatest subway,railroad,bus and ferry system..so we really dont need street/trolly cars. BUT...there are miles and miles of areasnot covered by rail traffic that COULD serve as potential street car/LRV corridors..if the MTA is willing to invest in it outside of the dumb BRT projects. I doubt,however,the MTA would be willing to..as the NORTH SHORE LRV was stupidly replaced by a "BUS/BRT" OPTION... |
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