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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 19 15:51:39 2012 In Subway Matters the yuppies may Keep their G Line Extension to Church AveThats Just about it though... BTW these are proposed... |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Jul 19 15:57:57 2012, in response to Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 19 15:51:39 2012. Overnight LIRR service to Brooklyn is back. I think that's more connected to Barclay's Center than anything else. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 19 16:01:47 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Jul 19 15:57:57 2012. Agreed.. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Jul 19 16:13:11 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 19 16:01:47 2012. Not that I'm complaining. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 19 16:15:24 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Jul 19 16:13:11 2012. Heh Nets Fan eh? |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jul 19 16:19:26 2012, in response to Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 19 15:51:39 2012. Only the (G) for subway, so no (V) or (W). Good. They were useless. The (M) the way is the best thing they did. The train is packed during Rush hours in MET from Mid Town. These people need a one seat ride. The rest of the day also gets good rider ship. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 19 16:27:46 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jul 19 16:19:26 2012. Some South Bklyn - Nassau St service will have to wait for the next car order.Had they cherry-picked 100 R44's for more service, that would have been a different story, like 50 for restored service and 50 to junk the R42's. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 19 16:28:03 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jul 19 16:19:26 2012. So some folks cant say the Emm-Tee-Yaa dont care for em right Brother?The Yuppies cried.. TA Listened... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 19 16:30:16 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 19 16:27:46 2012. Hindsight is 50 50 bro.. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 19 19:13:24 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 19 16:28:03 2012. sure did..but not enough.we need our south brooklyn service back..even if its a rush our only service. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 19 19:14:44 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 19 16:28:03 2012. sure did..but not enough.we need our south brooklyn service back..even if its a rush our only service. The one good thing that affects me personally is the return of the Q24.. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 19 23:22:32 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 19 16:27:46 2012. Agreed. It's too bad they can't save 100 R44s (is it really too late?). But once the R32s are SMS'ed, won't the C need fewer spares? Can't 50 R32s be spared for a South Brooklyn service? |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 19 23:26:22 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jul 19 16:19:26 2012. V was useless. W wasn't. Two years ago, I thought it was and was an easy choice for cutting. Until I rode the Broadway Line after the W was cut. The Broadway Line ran better when the W was there. With switching from express to local being done in two places (Prince and 34th) and the more-frequent Q switching at 34th, the line just moves slower and has more delays. |
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Posted by R32_3671 on Thu Jul 19 23:43:09 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 19 23:22:32 2012. I said the same thing, but once the SMS is done, then we will see what happens |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jul 20 15:02:51 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jul 19 16:19:26 2012. I say leave the M as it is now, but bring back the W and south brooklyn-Nassau service, at least in rush hour (both services can be rush only) |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 19:07:42 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jul 20 15:02:51 2012. Sorry, don't have the cars right now. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 19:09:06 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 19 23:22:32 2012. What about labor cost? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 19:10:29 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 19 23:26:22 2012. Ah, but it doesn't happen on paper!It's a paper railroad. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sun Jul 22 00:23:30 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 19:09:06 2012. Aren't labor costs factored into every subway route extension? They must have been when the board voted to make the G to Church permanent. |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Sun Jul 22 01:03:58 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 19:07:42 2012. Couldn't MTA take the cars used by the N and Q that terminate at 57 St - 7 Av (during rush hours) for W service? I agree W train needs to come back only during rush hours as a Broadway - 4 Av or Sea Beach Lcl line. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jul 22 12:10:49 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sun Jul 22 00:23:30 2012. Board hasn't voted yet, but you are right, cost is a major factor. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jul 22 12:11:58 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sun Jul 22 00:23:30 2012. Board hasn't voted yet, but you are right, cost is a major factor. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 13:26:54 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sun Jul 22 00:23:30 2012. The "G" is an OPTO service, so a cheap extension, and they have to deadhead by there to get to CIY anyway. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 22 16:33:19 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sun Jul 22 00:23:30 2012. The G extension to Church Ave. has not been made permanent yet.........it has to be presented to the MTA board for approval. NYCT is RECOMMENDING they do so and it will get a "rubber stamp" because the MTA board is a bunch of puppets.Currently there is a funding formula that pays for the current extension to Church Ave. out of the Capital Budget, at the effective date it officially becomes permanent, it will come out of the Operating Budget. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 22 16:34:22 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 13:26:54 2012. The G is OPTO weekends/holiday schedule days only. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 22 16:35:46 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by B49 Limited on Sun Jul 22 01:03:58 2012. Where do the cars come from in the rush? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 17:01:01 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by B49 Limited on Sun Jul 22 01:03:58 2012. If they terminate at 57th, they head right back to Brooklyn.The W required a net 5 additional train sets, and basically a useless service for Astoria being replaced by the Q. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jul 22 17:03:39 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 17:01:01 2012. The N/Q trains that terminate at 57th during the week, lay up @ City Hall lower level and the N/B express track between 49th and 57th until there needed for the PM Rush. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 22 17:16:19 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 17:01:01 2012. If that were the case.why couldnt the Q be the Bway local..since it IS the shortest line of all the Broadway services? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 18:32:20 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jul 22 17:03:39 2012. The reason they terminate is that the 60th Street tunnel is maxed out with all R and most N, most Q. I don't see where this is going. Kill the Q out to Astoria in rush hours and make them W's ? What's the point ? |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 23 07:11:35 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 19:07:42 2012. Well, that seems to have been some pretty bad decision making. If a few more R32 or even R42s had been kept, maybe this could have been done... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 23 07:13:16 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 19 23:26:22 2012. That's my impression as well. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 23 09:02:36 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 19:10:29 2012. Exactly Bill exactly... |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jul 23 13:18:24 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 18:32:20 2012. Having only Qs running to 57 St during rush hours with a swap of a W Broadway local from Astoria - Brooklyn... (also operating rush hours) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 23 14:15:05 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jul 20 15:02:51 2012. There will be no W until the Q needs to be re-directed up 2nd Ave, if then. I have always been skeptical of the need to run midday Astoria service at 12 TPH. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 23 14:16:40 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 23 07:13:16 2012. Might be easier to run everything local on Broadway (ducks) |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Jul 23 14:18:34 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 19:07:42 2012. OPTION ORDER TIME for R160 - 9975-10274wayne |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 23 17:08:59 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jul 23 13:18:24 2012. It's an unneeded complication. There are just as many Q's as there were W's. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jul 24 10:30:20 2012, in response to Re: Service Investments, Restored MTA Service?, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 17:01:01 2012. A useless service maybe on paper. Not in practice. And without it, northbound Broadway Line trains suffer from delays in two places instead of just one. |
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