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EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012

Passed by this on the way home today from the city, take a look...
R188 7811:
R188 7811 Front
R188 7811 Rear

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Mr. MTA on Wed Jul 4 18:56:36 2012, in response to EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012.

Wow!!! This is exciting! I can't wait to see interior photos!

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 4 18:58:10 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Mr. MTA on Wed Jul 4 18:56:36 2012.

Why would they be any different than any other R142?

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 19:02:30 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 4 18:58:10 2012.

Interior signage will be slightly different from what I hear (No FIND, but just the evolution of the signage used on the original R142/A order)

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jul 4 19:43:15 2012, in response to EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012.

You know I remember when the MTA used to buy all sorts of new and interesting designs.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jul 4 20:49:38 2012, in response to EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012.

Looks to be part of a future 5-car set.

wayne


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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jul 4 22:33:38 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jul 4 19:43:15 2012.

yeah, kinda like when PRR bought all the different diesels from everyone. No one in management had yet heard how standardised spare parts could actually save money, let alone having maintenance workers learn a particular breed of equipment and be really good at diagnosis and repair. Part of why Chessie tried to keep the U boats on C&O tracks where parts were in stock at shops and then in early CSX times most of the GEs went south swapped for EMDs north again to collect units where theparts and expertise were.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Mr. MTA on Wed Jul 4 23:11:49 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 4 18:58:10 2012.

*R142A

Never mind, I wrongly assumed that 7811 was just built because NYCSubway.org wrongly lists R142A Car 7810 as the highest number when in fact it was 7811.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by joe c on Thu Jul 5 00:20:48 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Mr. MTA on Wed Jul 4 23:11:49 2012.

7810 is the highest numbered R142A,7811 is the first car in the R188 order.



til next time

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Mr. MTA on Thu Jul 5 00:55:37 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by joe c on Thu Jul 5 00:20:48 2012.

Ok, never mind again!!!! So then shouldn't this train have FIND displays inside?

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jul 5 00:58:33 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jul 4 19:43:15 2012.

Yeah, like this car-buying kick for the IRT lines back in the 1950s and early 1960s:

R15


R17


R21


R22


R26


R28


R29


R33


R36


R36WF


Cars with essentially the same design. Parts from older cars could be (and were) used on younger cars.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jul 5 01:09:14 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Mr. MTA on Thu Jul 5 00:55:37 2012.

As far as I know, it will not. If this is true, I think it may be because of a need to retain compatibility signage-wise with the R142/A fleet.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jul 5 01:24:24 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jul 5 00:58:33 2012.

When will we get a new design that doesn't look like an R142?

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by WillD on Thu Jul 5 02:06:03 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jul 5 01:24:24 2012.

When Bombardier convinces them to buy off-the-shelf Movias, Alstom convinces them to buy Metropolises, or Siemens convinces them to buy their Modular Metro. Until then they'll keep generating their own economies of scale by creating block obsolescence problems with huge orders for thoroughly out of date, slow rolling stock.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jul 5 02:25:31 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Mr. MTA on Thu Jul 5 00:55:37 2012.

The R-188 will not have FINDs.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jul 5 02:26:58 2012, in response to EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012.

AWESOME CATCH!!! I wonder if they finished that 'C' car we've been waiting for. I want to operate it!!

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 5 02:26:59 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jul 5 02:25:31 2012.

Due to trin line incompatibility.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by merrick1 on Thu Jul 5 08:16:30 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jul 5 02:25:31 2012.

You don't need FIND on the Flushing line. It is a captive fleet. Strip maps will do just fine.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jul 5 10:05:38 2012, in response to EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012.

Sweet catch!!

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jul 5 10:31:32 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by merrick1 on Thu Jul 5 08:16:30 2012.

Agreed. You'll probably find FINDs on the cars that will replace the R62 fleet.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jul 5 18:30:05 2012, in response to EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012.

Neat!!! Thanks for sharing!

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jul 5 20:11:32 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jul 5 01:24:24 2012.

When will we get a new design that doesn't look like an R142?

I guess never.

Bill Newkirk



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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jul 5 20:13:47 2012, in response to EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012.

Looks like #7188 is ready to head to 207th ST.

I wonder if this car has those annoying single seats that slam, when someone gets up ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jul 5 21:27:11 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jul 5 20:11:32 2012.

Well surely at some point. Until then they should just keep calling them R142's and just keep tacking on letters onto the end.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jul 6 00:15:13 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jul 5 01:24:24 2012.

Probably not for years.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Gold_12TH on Fri Jul 6 01:15:32 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jul 5 20:13:47 2012.

I think there is no single seats, the space is now fitted with CBTC stuff.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jul 6 03:28:42 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jul 5 20:13:47 2012.

The slam seats are no more.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jul 6 07:50:46 2012, in response to EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012.

Nice! Nobody would really know that is a true R188, lol!

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Mr. MTA on Fri Jul 6 19:00:38 2012, in response to EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012.

Does anyone know if R188's have a different propulsion package from the R142A?

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 6 21:37:27 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jul 5 20:13:47 2012.

Oh, the so-called "Seats of Death."

They haven't been installed on any of the R160s that were delivered without them, so I guess they wouldn't be on the 188s.

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Jul 8 21:36:31 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Mr. MTA on Fri Jul 6 19:00:38 2012.

R142A had the Adtranz which was bought out by Bombardier, and most likely is an updated version of it! The propulsion is Bombardier Mitrac which is also being used in the R179 Contract!

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Mr. MTA on Mon Jul 9 00:16:44 2012, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Jul 8 21:36:31 2012.

Cool!

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Re: EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue Jul 10 14:01:55 2012, in response to EXCLUSIVE: R188 7811 at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers! - PHOTOS, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jul 4 18:53:15 2012.

And LOOK!! Rubber-tired trucks!! :)

--Mark

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