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Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jun 27 08:17:36 2012, in response to Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 27 00:00:22 2012. The last runs for the old Silverliners on Friday will be as Train 1089, leaving Suburban Station at 7:03 p.m., and Train 1091, leaving Suburban at 7:59 p.m.Ummm, I think Train 1091 departs from Cynwyd |
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Posted by chuchubob on Wed Jun 27 09:04:31 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jun 27 08:17:36 2012. Ummm, I think Train 1091 departs from CynwydOdd numbers to Cynwyd, even numbers to Suburban. Some examples here. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 27 10:17:20 2012, in response to Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 27 00:00:22 2012. 2300 bucks....any of them going to any musuems? I mean they are only a half a century old and still run, from very iconic well known railroads, from factories that everyone in those neighborhoods know of that don't exist anymore. |
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Wed Jun 27 10:23:17 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 27 10:17:20 2012. That was a typo, I believe-it should have read $23000. Also, the cars have all been sold already to Dublin Scrap in Newark (NJ). |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jun 27 13:43:18 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by NJCL2308 on Wed Jun 27 10:23:17 2012. That really sucks. What a shame.. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 27 14:40:17 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jun 27 13:43:18 2012. That really sucks. What a shame.. Why? You know of someone with $23,000 ready to remove the cars from SEPTA property? Furthermore, if you have a bit more than $23,000, just go over to Dublin Scrap and offer to buy the cars from them. Again, you'd need to haul them away yourself. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jun 27 14:44:37 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jun 27 13:43:18 2012. And the scrap dealer can sell them to whomever he chooses. SEPTA was offering the cars for $69,000 and only the Reading THS ponied up at that price to save 9001. Other museums can negotiate whatever deals they want with the scrap dealer which will probably be for less than what SEPTA was offering.Other scrap dealers have not only sold cars along, but also put them into storage to await future buyers. LETX is probably the best example. The problem with the ex-SEPTA cars is that they aren't HEP compatible so they won't be much use in tourist service which will limit how many get saved. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 27 14:48:05 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jun 27 14:44:37 2012. Great post. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jun 27 14:54:22 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jun 27 14:44:37 2012. Oh I didn't know that! Interesting. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jun 27 14:54:57 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 27 14:40:17 2012. While you may think you are trying to sound helpful, your tone is very negative. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 28 16:04:35 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jun 27 14:54:57 2012. No, I don't think that I was trying to be helpful, because I was not trying to be helpful. Just telling it like it is. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Thu Jun 28 16:16:41 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jun 27 14:44:37 2012. SEPTA was offering the cars for $69,000 and only the Reading THS ponied up at that price to save 9001.RCT&HS has done no such thing, nor will they. |
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Posted by Gamera on Thu Jun 28 16:41:58 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 28 16:04:35 2012. BOOKMARKED! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 28 17:01:12 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Gamera on Thu Jun 28 16:41:58 2012. What do you expect from such a miserable person with no life? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 19:11:46 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by kp5308 on Thu Jun 28 16:16:41 2012. Is scrap stainless really worth all that much ?OT, I think all the PA1, 2, & 3 are extinct now. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jun 28 19:22:07 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 28 16:04:35 2012. So what you are saying is... your post was made in an offensive tone, ON purpose? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Thu Jun 28 19:27:30 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 19:11:46 2012. at 50 or so ton per car and some stuff resellable yes $23 000 is bargain.50 tons of steel/stainless steel, traction motors etc etc. Traction motors for example are also used on drilling rigs. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 19:42:53 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Dutchrailnut on Thu Jun 28 19:27:30 2012. Yes, but SEPTA is selling them for $65K each.Where are they being chewed up ? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Thu Jun 28 19:50:57 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 19:42:53 2012. not according the news article , according article they went to scrapper for $23 000, not more. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 19:57:55 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Dutchrailnut on Thu Jun 28 19:50:57 2012. Can't put my fingers on it, but I read $65K is several places. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Thu Jun 28 20:15:36 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 19:57:55 2012. may I refere you to original post:The last of SEPTA's old Silverliner II and Silverliner III train cars, dating from the 1960s, are making their final runs this week. The two cars, the last remnants of a fleet of 75, will be taken out of service Friday evening, a day before a federal waiver of handicapped-accessibility rules expires. They will spend their final days on SEPTA's shortest regional rail line, shuttling between Suburban Station and Cynwyd. SEPTA has been gradually replacing its oldest cars with new Silverliner V cars for the past 20 months, as new cars arrive from the Hyundai-Rotem Corp. assembly plant in South Philadelphia. Plagued by delays, Hyundai has delivered 99 of 120 Silverliner V's to SEPTA, and 90 of those are operating in revenue service. SEPTA hopes to have all the cars, purchased for $274 million, by September. The oldest two cars still running are a Silverliner II built in 1963 by the Budd Co. for the Reading Railroad and a Silverliner III built by St. Louis Car Co. for the Pennsylvania Railroad in 1967, according to the Philadelphia chapter of the National Railway Historical Society. SEPTA and the historical society gave rail buffs a farewell tour on the old Silverliners last month. With the new cars and its existing Silverliner IV cars, SEPTA will have a fleet of about 400 cars to carry passengers on its 13 regional rail lines. Passengers have faced overcrowding on rush-hour trains for several years, because of shortages caused by increasing ridership, delays in new car deliveries, and removal of cars for repairs or maintenance. SEPTA is selling its old Silverliners to a Newark scrap dealer for about $2300 each.(wrong should be $23 000) The last runs for the old Silverliners on Friday will be as Train 1089, leaving Suburban Station at 7:03 p.m., and Train 1091, leaving Suburban at 7:59 p.m. ---http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20120626_Last_runs_for_SEPTA_Silverliner_II___III_rail_cars.html |
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Posted by kp5308 on Thu Jun 28 20:41:47 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 19:11:46 2012. OT, I think all the PA1, 2, & 3 are extinct now.If you mean ALCO/GE PA's there are 2 here in the US & 2 at the Mexican railroad museum at Puebla. These are the 4 ex-Delaware & Hudson (nee ATSF) "PA4" engines, rebuilt by Morrison Knudsen in 1974 with V16 251 prime movers for service on Amtrak's Adirondack. After Turboliners took over they were briefly leased to MBTA for Boston commuter service & went south in 1978. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jun 28 21:16:12 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by kp5308 on Thu Jun 28 20:41:47 2012. PA1,2& 3 are all Rapid transit cars, not locomotives. PA (Port Authority of NY & NJ) took over the Hudson & Manhattan Railroad. There are some PA3's saved for work service. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jun 28 22:45:45 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jun 28 19:22:07 2012. Nope. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Fri Jun 29 07:07:43 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jun 28 21:16:12 2012. Good enuff :o) |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 07:12:10 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by kp5308 on Thu Jun 28 16:16:41 2012. Well someone bought 9001, its been widely reported it was saved by some Reading group. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 29 17:21:30 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jun 28 21:16:12 2012. No, those are the Kawasaki PA4's.PA3's were Hawker Siddeley cars of 1972 and regarded as structurally inferior to the 1965 ST Louis cars. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Fri Jun 29 17:42:20 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 29 17:21:30 2012. Dan Lawrence wrong again? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 29 19:43:49 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 29 17:21:30 2012. Simple confusion in generation numbers.PA1=1965 PA2=1967 PA3=1972 PA4-1986 People tend to blend the St Louis PA1 & PA2 together. All the blind motors came within the 1965 group. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jun 29 23:12:50 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 19:57:55 2012. I think that $65,0000 figure refers to the price of the cars if someone wants to purchase one of them from the scrapper. |
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Posted by CJ on Sat Jun 30 11:19:09 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 28 17:01:12 2012. Not much, except to be an dick to whoever they feel like. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jun 30 15:02:59 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jun 28 19:22:07 2012. The Turtle always thinks he knows everything and actually knows nothing. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jun 30 15:04:42 2012, in response to Re: Last runs for SEPTA Silverliner II & III rail cars, posted by TERRapin station on Fri Jun 29 17:42:20 2012. Turtle is always wrong, even when he thinks he's right. |
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