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2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 20 01:10:12 2012

The Federal Transit Administration awarded $197 million in funds Monday for the Second Avenue subway construction's first phase, representing a chunk of the $1.3 billion in federal funding committed for the MTA project.

The $4.45 billion first phase of the project, which will extend the Q line from East 63rd up to East 96th street, is expected to be completed by December 2016. It will connect three stations — at East 96th, 86th and 72nd streets — to the station at 63rd Street and Lexington Avenue.

Just a day after that check was in the mail, government officials learned that the federal government's final installment, of $123 million, will also come through — after some doubt over its fate during budget negotiations.

Rep. Carolyn Maloney's office confirmed that the funds will be included in the proposed Fiscal Year 2013 budget being presented to the House Appropriations Committee on Tuesday.

"These federal funds will help keep this critical Second Avenue Subway project on track," Maloney said in a statement. "It’s projected that, immediately upon its completion, the new subway line will carry more than 200,000 passengers every day."

Maloney, who fought for decades to secure federal funding for the subway, which is one of the biggest infrastructure projects in the country, applauded the Obama administration for its commitment to the project.

"Initiatives like the Second Avenue Subway help keep America competitive in the 21st century global economy,” she said.
---http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20120619/upper-east-side/second-avenue-subway-project-gets-197m-from-federal-government#ixzz1yJ6qo0B7

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jun 20 02:06:53 2012, in response to 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 20 01:10:12 2012.

So...it looks like that's it!

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 20 02:53:25 2012, in response to 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 20 01:10:12 2012.

SO IF THAT "IT" for phase one..what of the easier portion of the build,which SHOULD have been included in the "phase one" construction?
The 106th st station should have been the easiest of the builds!

shallow..very close to the surface..

116th st would be difficult..as it would be a fill in station.
125TH would be the most expensive.

this whole section should be reworked into the originally planned route,with service as far as the 149th st HUB.

THE DOWNTOWN SECTION of Phase 4 should have been built from Grand st to the Nassau cut..with a connection to both the Chrystie st and the Montague Tunnel.

Phase 3 can,with the exception of the 55th and 42 st stations,be placed on hold until later.






























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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 20 06:59:00 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 20 02:53:25 2012.

Seems to make sense- especially the bit between 96-106th...as it is significantly built already...

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 20 07:01:42 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 20 02:53:25 2012.

Also, I agree that with the Nassau St tunnels so underused, the much of the downtown part is already in place as well...

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Jun 20 07:30:37 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 20 02:53:25 2012.

No. The Nassau St subway is too far from the East River. The Water Street Alignment is a much better choice. The Nassau St line doesn't need more service.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 20 07:58:55 2012, in response to 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 20 01:10:12 2012.

$197 million? The MTA can swallow that in a day without burping.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 20 08:09:19 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Jun 20 07:30:37 2012.

They're a matter of blocks away from each other...AND Nassua Street would only require upgrade, while Water St obviously would need full construction..

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 08:18:50 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 20 07:58:55 2012.

Wrong.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Jun 20 08:35:11 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 20 08:09:19 2012.

Nassau Street would be more trouble than what it's worth to upgrade. The Water Street alignment is better because it gives service to the east side of the Financial District. Besides, it's a bit of a walk to from the Nassau Street line to the East River.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jun 20 09:34:17 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Jun 20 08:35:11 2012.

IAWTP. Whenever I've had to travel to the Seaport area, I usually take the F train to 2nd Avenue, then catch the M15SBS bus. After the SBS goes to bed for the night, I have to start my trip home by schlepping uphill to William Street to catch the nearest subway.

A subway under Water Street would be much more convenient to get to the area.

Further, connecting the Water Street subway to the Montague Street tunnel would provide an additional option for South Brooklyn trains to access 6th Avenue. Without it, they're forced to either use the bridge, or reverse at Essex (not an option for 75' cars).

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by CJ on Wed Jun 20 10:34:24 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 08:18:50 2012.

Care to explain how he's wrong?

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 10:39:27 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by CJ on Wed Jun 20 10:34:24 2012.

Its called "trolling" he cant explain if you ask me..

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 10:57:29 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by CJ on Wed Jun 20 10:34:24 2012.

For you, no. If a respectable person truly does not see why he obviously is wrong, then I will explain it to them.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by CJ on Wed Jun 20 11:02:09 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 10:57:29 2012.

No need for me to know now old sport. Railman pretty much told me all I needed to know.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by CJ on Wed Jun 20 11:03:14 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 10:39:27 2012.

Judging by his response your right about that.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 20 11:24:52 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jun 20 09:34:17 2012.

That IS what I was referring to by saying,"Nassau st cut"...connecting the phase 4 route to the Montague st tunnel via the cut..and of course the Water st route..from the Grand st junction,as laid out in the 1949 SAS proposal.

This would add new services to an area that developed along with the promise of the route..where businesses/and residents would benefit..and a new through service from the 6th avenue line to lower Manhattan and Brooklyn.

the phase 3 section between 34th and Houston could be placed on hold until a proper redesign could be made with some service to the LES..

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 20 11:26:20 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by CJ on Wed Jun 20 10:34:24 2012.

Care to explain how he's wrong?

It's for construction of the 96th Street station. I doubt it will be completed in a day, regardless of what does or doesn't come out of the MTA's esophageal sphincter.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by CJ on Wed Jun 20 11:29:00 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 20 11:26:20 2012.

Thanks. At least I got answer.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 12:04:00 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by CJ on Wed Jun 20 11:02:09 2012.

I got bored E kicking the sorry troll that's why I don't bother replying to the loser. I just laugh I would laugh in his face and he knows it. Ask him why he don't run his trap like that on fansofsubway.org on
Facebook.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 12:11:54 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Jun 20 07:30:37 2012.

IAWTP.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 12:13:07 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 20 08:09:19 2012.

Nassau Street would require construction that would be expensive to avoid disrupting J service and SAS capacity would be limited by the existing J service.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 12:19:51 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 10:39:27 2012.

As CJ just admitted, you are wrong (typical).

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by CJ on Wed Jun 20 12:47:37 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 12:04:00 2012.

Railman. He's not a troll. He's a wannabe troll. He can't back up anything he says no matter what. He just strives for attention and decides to attack anyone no matter who they are just to get that attention. It's funny to watch the poor wannabe act like that in society. He needs all the help he can get.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 20 13:44:18 2012, in response to 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 20 01:10:12 2012.

Cool, that should cover the wall tiles at 72nd St and the extra garbage cans needed at 63rd/Lex.

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Jun 20 14:10:59 2012, in response to 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 20 01:10:12 2012.

"Initiatives like the Second Avenue Subway help keep America competitive in the 21st century global economy,” she [Maloney] said."

OK, Ms. Maloney ... before I accuse you of being full of Baloney, please tell me how the 2nd Ave Stubway to 96th Street "help[s] keep America competitive in the 21st century global economy."

--Mark

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jun 20 14:41:05 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 20 07:01:42 2012.

Too bad that they did not connect Christie St tunnel to the Bowery, as well as Essex Street!

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Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government

Posted by znufrii on Wed Jun 20 14:45:51 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Av Subway Project Gets $197 Million from Federal Government, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Jun 20 07:30:37 2012.

why not both?


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