You do, of course, realize that they will forthwith wheel a 160-year-old retired collier into court, who will state for the record that he complained the steam engines were bothering his horses when the yard was built, to no avail...LOL!
on Sun Jun 17 14:23:00 2012, in response to Re: NIMBYs Strike Again!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jun 16 13:53:59 2012.
That's what these people don't realize.
That yard was there LONG before they were.
That's what happens when you move into a neighborhood that was completely (or almost all) industrial for many, many years before many buildings were converted to livable lofts and newer buildings were built.
on Sun Jun 17 14:32:17 2012, in response to Re: NIMBYs Strike Again!, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jun 17 14:23:00 2012.
Oh, they realize it alright. However, because it's "the LIRR" they feel that it's OK to disrespect it and bash it. If it was a highway, they wouldn't ask to stop running cars on it, they would simply move out.
Yes, build barriers as high as the apartments and let sunlight be blocked in addition to the alleged noise! There's a grade crossing about 100 or so feet east of Vernon boulevard used primarily by industrial vehicles; my suggestion is for the LIRR to have the engineers blow the standard long-long-short-long whistle as loud as they can whenever it's necessary to do so. The LIRR can then say they're providing free music or the neighborhood yuppies.....
Interesting thing about noise barriers: they CAN utterly destroy the character of a city. My family lives in Henderson, Nevada, where EVERY main (four-lane) street has noise barriers on both sides of the street, from one end of a loooong block to the other, endlessly. That's what you see as you drive along: solid beige noise walls. No houses, stores, or anything else to distinguish one block from the next. It's just depressing. It's like driving through an open cut.
on Mon Jun 18 13:25:58 2012, in response to Re: NIMBYs Strike Again!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 18 09:56:27 2012.
With noise barriers like that, for all intensive purposes, you've CREATED a barrier 4 lanes wide right through the neighborhood, worse than just having the street. Why would they want to look at a frickin' wall?
Agreed. The problem (for these residents) is that there's an active railyard in the area. Obviously, the yard needs to operate, but in typical NIMBY fashion, they think the railyard needs to conform to their desires.
on Tue Jun 19 12:29:40 2012, in response to Re: NIMBYs Strike Again!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 18 09:56:27 2012.
There is an aspect of complaining about urban planning - where the tendency is to support the idea of "Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything" - a kind of "everything in its own place" method of planning.
on Tue Jun 19 17:28:53 2012, in response to Re: NIMBYs Strike Again!, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 19 12:39:16 2012.
Actually, didn't he try to make a move on Tavern in the Green in Central Park? I remember the neighborhood got together and stopped whatever was going to happen. The case was kind of a landmark, and set the stage for more challenges.
Only an idiot would believe that the LIRR will abandon its LIC station/yard. The whole thing has recently been modernized. Just a cursory glance by anyone could see that it has all new facilities. The real estate brokers really made fools out of a lot of people.