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Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 12 03:17:56 2012

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I just finished watching the opening scenes of a Law and Order episode involving a shooting on board a supposed IND subway train. The first view shows a train of R-42 approaching. As the "same" train passes by, it morphs into a train of IRT redbirds. As the train arrives at the next station it has now become an R-32. A female passenger changes to a train across the platform which is an R-38. As the train she just boarded is leaving the station it has now miraculously become a slant R-40. Between stations it has suddenly transformed into an R-62 and when the shooting occurs it has returned to being an R-38. I know that the NYCT can't always supply the same train for all the scenes but it should certainly be able to do better than such widely divers types of equipment as appeared in that one scene especially since the trains shown were on completely different divisions.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 04:27:08 2012, in response to Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 12 03:17:56 2012.

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It's Hollywood MAGIC! :)



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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jun 12 06:03:47 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 04:27:08 2012.

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My favorites are when they dress up a PATH train as a NYCTA train. They have done that a few times.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 06:05:12 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jun 12 06:03:47 2012.

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You shoot what you can. Biff and Bunny can't tell that it isn't really LA. :)

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 12 07:58:59 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 06:05:12 2012.

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That's because it isn't LA. L&O was filmed entirely in NYC.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 08:25:06 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 12 07:58:59 2012.

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Adolph & Eva don't get cable in the bunker.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 12 08:37:29 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jun 12 06:03:47 2012.

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I go you one better. On an Ugly Betty episode (before they moved filming to NYC), a L. A. Metro Red Line train portrayed a NYC subway train.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 12 10:52:07 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 12 08:37:29 2012.

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Oy!

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 12 10:59:41 2012, in response to Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 12 03:17:56 2012.

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Is this the one with the distaff Goetz played by Miranda from Sex and the City?

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by mike cruz on Tue Jun 12 11:10:58 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jun 12 06:03:47 2012.

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I was just gonna say that ! LOL

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by mike cruz on Tue Jun 12 11:12:29 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 12 08:37:29 2012.

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reminds me of all the CSI miami episodes with LACMTA trains in the backround hahahaha!

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Tue Jun 12 11:28:05 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jun 12 06:03:47 2012.

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There was an episode of The Good Wife that had an R-68 standing in for a Chicago 'L' car. I love the various fails when pretending to be WMATA (and DC in general; here's a clue: THERE ARE NO 20+ STORY BUILDINGS WITHIN THE DISTRICT LIMITS, so there are no 50-story glass towers next to the Capitol or White House. Union Station here does not look at all like Union Station LA or any railway station in Canada). The city is situated on the Potomac *RIVER* not a bay or ocean. And we have gently rolling hills to the west and north, NOT BIG, CRAGGY MOUNTAINS).

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 12 12:15:49 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 12 08:37:29 2012.

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Still like the chase scene in a movie whose name I can't recall. Kevin xxxxxx is running away in DC runs down in to a WMATA station--maybe Foggy Bottom, and cut to him shot from below entering a Baltimore station (no Sunday service easy to set up)

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue Jun 12 13:01:41 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 12 12:15:49 2012.

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See, that's high speed rail for ya :)

--mark

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 12 13:06:30 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 12 10:59:41 2012.

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That's the one.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 12 13:41:40 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 12 12:15:49 2012.

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LOL, they finally finished the proposed connection at Laurel :)

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 12 13:45:05 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by mike cruz on Tue Jun 12 11:12:29 2012.

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LACMTA must make a mint renting out their trains, stations etc. for TV and movie shoots. Red (and Purple) lines mostly, but I've seen the Blue and Green Lines used (and in the case of "Collateral", both LOL). Even the Gold Line (Pasadena segment) made a brief appearance in last year's Lincoln Lawyer (although it was just a train appearing in the background, don't know if the producers had to set that up w/ MTA, or if they just set up cameras and filmed).



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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Jun 12 14:06:30 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 12 12:15:49 2012.

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Still like the chase scene in a movie whose name I can't recall.

I believe the film you are thinking of was "No Way Out".

Kevin xxxxxx is running away in DC runs down in to a WMATA station--maybe Foggy Bottom, and cut to him shot from below entering a Baltimore station (no Sunday service easy to set up)

The station entrance was into the non existent Georgetown station. Georgetown Park was used as the location for the station entrance.


Then there was film "The Man With One Red Shoe". Dabney Coleman is following Tom Hanks into the north entrance of the Dupont Circle station, next shot is Tom Hanks on the platform of a Baltimore Metro station.

I was waking past the north entrance to the Dupont Circle station when the production company was preparing to shoot that seen.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 16:35:47 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 12 07:58:59 2012.

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Ah ... the no sense of humor crowd appears. Hint: It was a joke ...

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 12 19:10:36 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Sand Box John on Tue Jun 12 14:06:30 2012.

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I remember watching a TV show once, it might have been Kojack, and they get out of the Lexington Avenue line and run up the stairs at Bowling Green to emerge on an LA street where they continue the chase.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by aaron on Tue Jun 12 19:55:39 2012, in response to Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 12 03:17:56 2012.

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Don't forget the scene in "The Fugitive" where they do a chase thru Queens and a METRA train crosses in their path...

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 12 22:40:36 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 12 19:10:36 2012.

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I think Kojak was the first show I watched when I realized they actually filmed in L. A. The episode aired after I had visited L. A. for the first time, so I was able to spot the SCRTD bus in the background. :) (Also took the Universal Studio tour while out there, where they pretty much admitted they filmed in L. A.)

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 13 07:49:17 2012, in response to Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 12 03:17:56 2012.

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Stuff like this happens in movie/TV shoots all the time. In the movies, I've seen R68 M trains, for example...

I guess they figure that outside of TA employees and guys like us, no one is likely to notice or care!!!

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 13 07:52:09 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jun 12 06:03:47 2012.

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Some years back, in an orange juice commerical, two guys take an R62/62A to the "Florida" station, which was done up in a VERY credible 1930s IND scheme...except the name plate background tiles were orange and green!!! Whoever did the work on that one obviously knew a good deal about the subway!!

I also saw a commercial, I can't even remember what it was for, but someone takes a train to the "Moab Station", which was clearly Lexington/53rd...(or based on Lex/53)

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 13 12:39:46 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jun 12 06:03:47 2012.

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My favorites are when they dress up a PATH train as a NYCTA train. They have done that a few times.

There was one episode where they tried to pass off a Governor's Island ferryboat for the Staten Island Ferry.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 13 12:42:51 2012, in response to Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 12 03:17:56 2012.

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I just finished watching the opening scenes of a Law and Order episode involving a shooting on board a supposed IND subway train. The first view shows a train of R-42 approaching. As the "same" train passes by, it morphs into a train of IRT redbirds. As the train arrives at the next station it has now become an R-32. A female passenger changes to a train across the platform which is an R-38. As the train she just boarded is leaving the station it has now miraculously become a slant R-40. Between stations it has suddenly transformed into an R-62 and when the shooting occurs it has returned to being an R-38. I know that the NYCT can't always supply the same train for all the scenes but it should certainly be able to do better than such widely divers types of equipment as appeared in that one scene especially since the trains shown were on completely different divisions.

Randy: I know that episode. Even a non-railfan could spot the difference in the subway cars. I believe that the finished the filming sequence on Track 5 of the WTC with a PATH car in the background.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jun 13 13:37:57 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by aaron on Tue Jun 12 19:55:39 2012.

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Wrong movie - - it was U.S. Marshals.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jun 13 13:39:40 2012, in response to Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 12 03:17:56 2012.

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I saw that L&O episode on Netflix - - it was titled "Subterranean Homicide" season 1, episode 2. Four different car classes used in less than 30 seconds for one scene.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 13 14:08:08 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 13 12:42:51 2012.

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I think that was a different episode (Tabula Rasa), in which the PATH train was obviously used as a stand-in for the #1 train.

SVU was filmed in New Jersey and used the PATH as a subway stand-in extensively, including the infamous episode where a man had his penis cut off on the platform at Exchange Place.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 13 14:30:03 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 13 14:08:08 2012.

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There was also an episode in which a PATH train was used as a S/B A train with a 12-9 at what was supposed to be W 4 St.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 13 15:21:47 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by randyo on Wed Jun 13 14:30:03 2012.

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This might be the same episode I referred to. It involved a "12-9" of a woman who was followed out of an NYU college book store. I may have been wrong in identifying it as supposing to be the #1 line

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 13 17:03:30 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 13 15:21:47 2012.

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"Tabula Rose" was the name of the episode. It was supposed to be a (C) train IIRC and Lenny Briscoe refers to the TA manager as Mousellini

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 13 17:04:13 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jun 13 13:37:57 2012.

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Absolutely correct

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 13 17:09:51 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 13 17:03:30 2012.

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http://www.tv.com/shows/law-order/tabula-rasa-9680/


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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jun 13 17:26:38 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 13 17:04:13 2012.

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The only good part about the sequel was the 125th Street/MNCR rope jump - - good way to escape from the law.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 13 17:41:51 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 13 17:03:30 2012.

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It wasn't a C train it was an A train. The PATH train had cheesy A decals on the sides of the cars.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 13 20:08:23 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 13 14:08:08 2012.

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SVU was filmed in New Jersey and used the PATH as a subway stand-in extensively, including the infamous episode where a man had his penis cut off on the platform at Exchange Place.

Talk about nasty service cuts.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jun 13 20:42:24 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 12 13:06:30 2012.

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Yes. They simply mashed Subway footage and used Hoyt-Schermerhorn, trying to have that pass for 23rd Street as I recall.

This was the second-ever episode of the series to air and was filmed in early 1990 as it was originally supposed to be part of an eight-episode "mini season" at the end of the 1989-'90 TV season before being pushed back to the following fall.

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Re: Law and Order Subway Episode

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 13 22:11:38 2012, in response to Re: Law and Order Subway Episode, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 13 17:09:51 2012.

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Well, I was close

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