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Posted by NJCL2308 on Wed May 30 10:40:10 2012 Was on 1006 this morning, on the east end facing Hoboken. Pans were raised at MSU. I'm going out to look for it tonight |
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Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 30 11:37:17 2012, in response to ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by NJCL2308 on Wed May 30 10:40:10 2012. Awesome! Can't wait to see them in NYP on a RVL line train someday, perhaps they can send some NEC or NJCL trains to HOB to make space lol. |
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Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 30 11:56:03 2012, in response to ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by NJCL2308 on Wed May 30 10:40:10 2012. Still not approved by Amtrak for operation on the Newark Division, eh. |
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Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip |
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Posted by WillD on Wed May 30 12:13:31 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 30 11:37:17 2012.  Especially if you think NEC or NJCL riders will allow themselves to be pushed off to a secondary, inconvenient terminal like Hoboken. |
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Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 12:36:41 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 30 11:56:03 2012. You want that thing laying down and screwing up everything? Besides, there's no single revenue run it can make where it can run as a diesel and then electric into NYP. |
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Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 12:40:09 2012, in response to ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by NJCL2308 on Wed May 30 10:40:10 2012. IIRC, that's the 7:24 out of Lake Hopatcong. That train is usually used on #1001 in the afternoon, though there's no guarantee that will happen today. |
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Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 12:41:35 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 12:40:09 2012. Ugh, I meant #1003, the 3:32 departure to Denville. |
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Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 30 13:12:13 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 12:36:41 2012. They could combine some of the Montclair Direct trips with trains going west to Boonton et cetera, for a start. Then they could combine (or recombine?) some of the former PRR runs that they split into two trains, that used to have the "Shore Direct" engine change (yeah, NJT forgot how to do those, what a shocker) that are now Long Branch express trains that meet shuttles. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 30 13:21:03 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by WillD on Wed May 30 12:13:31 2012. I was sort of being sarcastic, situation kinda reminds me of Atlantic Terminal/NYP situation over on the LIRR.During Rush hour all the Electric lines (Except for PW) has runs outta AT which is a secondary, inconvenient, terminal. |
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Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 30 13:26:36 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 30 13:12:13 2012. PS. Chipper10 has a question that may get laughed down on RRNET . . . |
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Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 30 13:27:01 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 30 11:56:03 2012. Whenever Amtrak allows these engines to run on their trackage its gonna be cool to see three different DM engines in NYP (ALP-45DP, the P32s on the Empire trains, and the DM the LIRR operates though there during rush hour). |
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Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 30 13:33:36 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 30 13:27:01 2012. The only one missing would be the FL9. |
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Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 14:04:00 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45DP first revenue trip, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 30 13:12:13 2012. But, AFAIK there are no longer any daytime combos. They've cut service to the bone out there and only the thru trains to Hoboken actually run in WORMland. |
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Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 16:52:57 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 30 13:21:03 2012. Yet I still know people who take trains into NYP and use the 1/2/3/A/C/E to get to downtown. |
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Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 30 17:31:25 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by WillD on Wed May 30 12:13:31 2012. On the NEC, 22% go to NWK, 1% go to HOB, 12% are localOn the NJCL, 23% go to NWK, 6% go to HOB, 19% are local. 100% of the NEC service goes to Manhattan, but only 70% of the riders do. It is not necessary to send them all to Manhattan, but isolating the minority onto a non-NY Bound train would be difficult. |
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Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip |
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Posted by Train2104 on Wed May 30 17:51:24 2012, in response to ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by NJCL2308 on Wed May 30 10:40:10 2012. http://trn.trains.com/en/Railroad%20News/News%20Wire/2012/05/NJ%20Transit%20dual-mode%20locomotive%20makes%20first%20revenue%20trip.aspx>For Trains magazine subscribers, the first official article
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Posted by Train2104 on Wed May 30 17:52:30 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by Train2104 on Wed May 30 17:51:24 2012. Lets try again:Trains Magazine 
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Wed May 30 18:40:58 2012, in response to ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by NJCL2308 on Wed May 30 10:40:10 2012. Currently on the east (trailing) end of 1009. |
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Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed May 30 18:50:22 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by Joe V on Wed May 30 17:31:25 2012. Remember though, those "local" riders have their seats re-used by people who are bound for NY... also the NWK departures have their seats taken by people from RVL and the Erie lines... |
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Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 30 18:57:24 2012, in response to Re: ALP-45 first revenue trip, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed May 30 18:50:22 2012. Right, but peak load point is still west of Newark. RVL and Bergen line passengers to NYPS are less than what get off NEC + NJCL trains at Newark. Only 38% of the RVL and 27% of the Bergen lines' passengers go to NYPS. |
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