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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 26 16:56:23 2012, in response to 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat May 26 15:55:00 2012. The new station in East Farmingdale flies in the face of the logic they used when they relocated several stations to make more efficient use of the acceleration of the electric cars. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat May 26 17:43:32 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 26 16:56:23 2012. The new station in East Farmingdale flies in the face of the logic they used when they relocated several stations to make more efficient use of the acceleration of the electric carsI suspect they didn't bother with a station there to simply avoid the costs of building an upgraded facility with high platforms, especially since the advantage of going electric is the superior acceleration. If one looks from the perspective of traditional commuter operations, there's little reason to build a station there as there's no residential area near by or a park and ride to supply riders. With modern policy perspectives, the station is seen as an inter-modal facility with transfers to local bus services. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sat May 26 18:14:26 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat May 26 17:43:32 2012. The people on the video are talking about redeveloping the Republic Aircraft property with transit oriented development. It has to be the biggest parcel of developable land on Long Island.What purpose does Pinelawn serve? Most of the nearby residents are done with commuting. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 26 18:57:58 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by merrick1 on Sat May 26 18:14:26 2012. What purpose does Pinelawn serve?Pinelawn serves cemeteries nearby. Most of the nearby residents are done with commuting. There is no commuter parking at Pinelawn and not all trains stop there. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 26 19:10:00 2012, in response to 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat May 26 15:55:00 2012. In this video, LIRR's Helena Williams stated the need for apartment housing for young people to keep them on Long Island.Right here in Farmingdale Village, just 3 miles from where that video was shot, a major development of 115 rental apartments and stores on the ground floor to answer that. This building will be 1/2 block walk to the Farmingdale train station and is described as "Transit Oriented Development". Work is to start this autumn and be complted in one year. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by mshull on Sat May 26 20:57:36 2012, in response to 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat May 26 15:55:00 2012. How does this affect Pinelawn and Wyandanch?Will they have additional side platforms built or will the existing platforms become island platforms? |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat May 26 22:21:07 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by merrick1 on Sat May 26 18:14:26 2012. What purpose does Pinelawn serve? Most of the nearby residents are done with commuting.Mr Merrick: Your quite right in your statement that most of the residents of Pinelawn are long done with commuting. The station remains open because many people like to visit their loved ones, usually on Mother's Day and Father's Day. Its a grave decision. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 26 22:36:19 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat May 26 22:21:07 2012. grievous occasion? |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 27 06:46:31 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by mshull on Sat May 26 20:57:36 2012. How does this affect Pinelawn and Wyandanch?Will they have additional side platforms built or will the existing platforms become island platforms? My guess is that the new a second track will be built north of the present one. Which means an second platform to be built at Pinelawn, which only platforms two M-7's or M-3's. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun May 27 09:07:10 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 26 22:36:19 2012. grievous occasion?Dead right. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 27 11:00:23 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by mshull on Sat May 26 20:57:36 2012. Wouldn't be surprised to see them become island platforms. Easier and more cost efficient. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun May 27 11:48:50 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat May 26 22:21:07 2012. WAKES up old memories. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun May 27 14:33:12 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by mshull on Sat May 26 20:57:36 2012. Hard to say. Wyandanch platform is on the north side; there seems to be room for a second track on the south side but the platform is going to be a tight fit. I can see it being close to the street like at Deer Park/PineAire. There is a second track (freight) west of Wyandanch as far as W 23rd St - and ample room for another all the way to Little East Neck Road. It will be a REALLY tight fit around Pinelawn; the platform's on the south side; likely will have to relocate Long Island Avenue 100 feet or so to the south through here.wayne |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 16:21:54 2012, in response to 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat May 26 15:55:00 2012. Said track will have little use unless the put in the third track between Floral Park and Mineola. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 16:24:27 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 27 06:46:31 2012. Pinelawn will be tricky to wedge in another track. There are carefully planted old trees on one side of the ROW and little room on the other street side. Everywhere else would be simple. Part of the ROW between Wyandanch and Deer Park is already double tracked, with the other track being unpowered and used for freights. |
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Posted by caine515 on Sun May 27 22:45:00 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 26 19:10:00 2012. about time for the second track. i used to live in Farmingdale and the service sucks for AM peak towards Ronkonkoma with one track service. two track service should make better peak service. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 28 01:10:27 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 16:21:54 2012. Bah, the crossing gates aren't continuously down during rush hour yet - they could probably squeeze in a bit more traffic...Actually I can see them taking a few "slots" from Port Jeff - HPA trains and giving them to Ronkonkoma... |
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Posted by geoffc on Tue May 29 10:57:42 2012, in response to 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat May 26 15:55:00 2012. Why would they do the non-connected part first? I.e. Why double track Ronkonkoma to Central Islip first.Would it not make more sense to do the Farmingdale to Ronkonkoma, then do the bit to Central Islip next? Then they can start extending service as the first phase completes? I.e. Make use of the investment sooner? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 29 12:29:35 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 28 01:10:27 2012. Actually I can see them taking a few "slots" from Port Jeff - HPAThat's insane. That line is already hampered by it's infrastructure in providing adequate service. About the ONLY advantage I see to fully double-tracking to Ronkonkoma is the ability to extend some of those Farmingdale turnarounds all the way out. You up service east of there without necessarily adding an increased number of trains. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 29 13:53:24 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by geoffc on Tue May 29 10:57:42 2012. It makes as much sense as anywhere else. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 29 14:02:51 2012, in response to Re: 2nd Track Coming to LIRR’s Main Line, posted by geoffc on Tue May 29 10:57:42 2012. That single track section is probably the most likely to cause delays. If an eastbound train is late, a departing westbound from RO must either wait for it to clear the single track segment or the delayed eastbound must be delayed further to allow the westbound to depart on time. I've ridden train #2006, the 5:11 AM departure from NYP and that train has to sit on the "other" platform of Central Islip and wait for a departing train. It's always late. |
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