|
|
| Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 (1152650) | |
 |
|
| Home > SubChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
| (1152650) | |
Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Apr 23 10:34:14 2012 The new southern end of the uptown platform at the Bleecker Street station [IRT #6 line] now has the entrance/exit open there (i.e. at East Houston Street), as viewed this morning on 4/23/2012. The new transfer on that side to the IND below is not open yet, though, as the connecting stairs are still covered up.-William A. Padron ["Bleecker"] |
|
|
| (1152770) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by numbersix on Mon Apr 23 20:28:44 2012, in response to Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Apr 23 10:34:14 2012. Thanks for the update. It took me a couple of tries to find the IRT Uptown entrance when transferring from the IND. |
|
|
| (1152803) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 24 00:05:32 2012, in response to Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Apr 23 10:34:14 2012. Is the extended platform on the NB side still accessible to the public? |
|
|
(Sponsored) |
iPhone 6 (4.7 Inch) Premium PU Leather Wallet Case - Red w/ Floral Interior - by Notch-It |
|
| (1152812) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Apr 24 01:24:30 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 24 00:05:32 2012. Nope. It closed immediately upon the opening of the extension. Initially blocked off by blue construction wall, they've already started bricking up the old platform edges to construct some new offices or something. |
|
|
| (1152832) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 24 09:09:49 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Apr 24 01:24:30 2012. OK, thanks |
|
|
| (1152863) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by zac on Tue Apr 24 13:45:30 2012, in response to Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Apr 23 10:34:14 2012. I went through there today as i frequently do and it is amazing how quickly they got that in shape. Just last week the tiles were still the old yellowed IND tiles on the staircase on the north side. The entrance on the south side of Houston just magically appeared where there was nothing before. Shades of 76th St... Kind of funny too that an IND entrance gets you to an IRT station.I'm surprised they haven't opened a section of the internal staircase to the Bway Lafayette station. I guess they still need the room to work on the escalator. Soon enough... |
|
|
| (1152876) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 24 14:34:58 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by zac on Tue Apr 24 13:45:30 2012. I was just there half an hour ago. The south end of the 6 platform still has that new smell to it. Anyone know if they are planning to put up more tiles/mosaics along the part that just has the white tiles for now? |
|
|
| (1152905) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by zac on Tue Apr 24 19:37:28 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 24 14:34:58 2012. They are putting up replica tiles and plaques. They are taking longer than expected to produce. No surprise there. |
|
|
| (1152918) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Apr 24 22:34:35 2012, in response to Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Apr 23 10:34:14 2012. Some photos |
|
|
| (1153053) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by HANDBRAKE on Wed Apr 25 23:56:06 2012, in response to Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Apr 23 10:34:14 2012. The double wide stairway from the NB #6 platform is in. The contractor is installing handrails, and steel treadles on the stairway steps. The stairways leading down to the IND platforms are in, and about completed. with exception to ADA elevators, the connection is about done.Interesting fact is that the IND transfer area under the IRT RoW, and under the NB #6 platform has original IND construction. I recall prior to the last station rehab, the south end platforms of Bway Lafayette having mid level Mezzanine walkways located between the station columns that eventually met a blocked off stairway at the south end of the station. The southern mezzanine, and stairs have been closed off for as long as I can recall, at least from the early 1960's, and may have have once connected to a mezzanine south of the IRT with stairs up to the surface. Without a pre-1990's rehab station diagram it is pure conjecture. |
|
|
| (1153057) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by monorail on Thu Apr 26 00:49:43 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by HANDBRAKE on Wed Apr 25 23:56:06 2012. 'The southern mezzanine, and stairs have been closed off for as long as I can recall, at least from the early 1960's, and may have have once connected to a mezzanine south of the IRT with stairs up to the surface.'was in it, many moons ago. I have foots |
|
|
| (1153058) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by monorail on Thu Apr 26 00:50:11 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by monorail on Thu Apr 26 00:49:43 2012. Fotos not footsdamn spell check... |
|
|
| (1153059) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 26 00:50:46 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by monorail on Thu Apr 26 00:50:11 2012. Whew! Glad the MTA didn't take your feets away too. :) |
|
|
| (1153064) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by monorail on Thu Apr 26 01:57:35 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 26 00:50:46 2012. thanx! |
|
|
| (1153066) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 02:18:04 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by HANDBRAKE on Wed Apr 25 23:56:06 2012. I don't recall mid level mezzanine walkways located between the station columns but there was a gated off staircase at the south end of each platform (on the platform level). |
|
|
| (1153155) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by Outside the Box on Thu Apr 26 14:04:43 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Apr 24 01:24:30 2012. That might end up as CBTC equipment space. |
|
|
| (1153168) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by zac on Thu Apr 26 16:51:16 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 02:18:04 2012. They would have to had ducked under the IRT. I don't remember ever seeing that. However, I have been looking closely at that section of the station and I always wondered if it did indeed do that, but again it didn't seem to have enough clearance.As far as the south mezzanine is concerned, it was definitely an IND entrance. As of less than 2 weeks ago, the Mulberry St entrance still had the yellowish tiles and was being used as a construction entrance. They are bright white today. I was amazed that they transformed it that quickly. Also, the entrance across Houston by the new REI must have always been there. When they first started working you could see the mezzanine from the platform too and it was typical IND. |
|
|
| (1153179) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 26 17:49:29 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by Outside the Box on Thu Apr 26 14:04:43 2012. Yeah, when the Lex gets the stuff installed.....around the year one million. |
|
|
| (1153230) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Apr 27 00:04:42 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 26 17:49:29 2012. Sooner than you'd think. |
|
|
| (1153263) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 27 07:38:17 2012, in response to Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Apr 23 10:34:14 2012. That was a neat project. The amount of old brick tunneling or other structures under Lafayette Street that were visible during construction was really cool!!Also, I suppose it's about time we got a transfer between the IND and the uptown #6- only 55 years after the downtown transfer became available!! |
|
|
| (1153266) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 27 07:42:46 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 27 07:38:17 2012. Actually, this leads me to another question- does anyone know if, when the connection to the downtown #6 was made, was it part of a plan for bi-directional transfer that just ran out of money and had to wait- and if so, how far did construction get back then?Or was the original connectio set up for the downtown side with no real thought, at the time, for conection to the uptown 6? |
|
|
| (1153269) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by LA Scott on Fri Apr 27 08:42:01 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 27 07:42:46 2012. From what I have read, there was a gas station at the northeast corner of Lafayette and Houston that made the uptown connection too expensive/complex |
|
|
| (1153282) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Apr 27 10:30:00 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Apr 24 22:34:35 2012. Thanks for these photos. |
|
|
| (1153284) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Apr 27 10:59:24 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by zac on Thu Apr 26 16:51:16 2012. So how far east did the original mezzanine extend? When I first used the Bleecker St./B'way-Lafayette transfer in 1967, I remember seeing a closed-off passageway, separated from the open parts of the station by iron bars, like the ones used in some IND stations to separate the far-paid and free areas. It extended eastward from the open parts of the station and had several old signs in it, but I don't remember what they said, or if I could even read them. I think I wondered even then if it extended under the IRT tracks. |
|
|
| (1153292) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Apr 27 12:07:41 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Apr 27 10:59:24 2012. I think I wondered even then if it extended under the IRT tracks.It was east of the IRT. It seems that NY Times took down the diagram I used to hot link so I can't show it but next time you are there look at the ceiling. All four IRT tracks are above within the IND platforms length. Same for the BMT above the other end. |
|
|
| (1153307) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 27 13:59:55 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by LA Scott on Fri Apr 27 08:42:01 2012. I believe that gas station is still there...although at the time, I suppose,the TA might not have had the $$ to condemn, or partially condemn it... |
|
|
| (1153315) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by zac on Fri Apr 27 14:31:46 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 27 13:59:55 2012. No gas station there. That triangle is occupied by a bank atm, and in any case the IND mezzanine was already there. The Mulberry St staircase is behind the bank. |
|
|
| (1153535) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Apr 28 12:52:00 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 27 07:42:46 2012. I seem to remember reading that even the transfer between the downtown IRT and the IND was basically an afterthought. When the Bleecker St. southbound station platform was first extended south, they noticed that, if they didn't completely close up the new wall, there would be a passage to the IND Broadway-Lafayette St. station, which was just on the other side, with a floor at the same level. So they decided to leave the opening in place, since it essentially had zero added cost. It might even have been cheaper than completing a tiled wall between the stations. |
|
|
| (1153554) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 28 13:48:45 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by zac on Fri Apr 27 14:31:46 2012. And now, I can tell you for today on Saturday, April 28, 2012...1. The entry/exit on the NB platform at Bleecker Street itself is closed off. Any passenger must use the new one at East Houston Street, and there is a new station agent's booth that is opened. 2. One of the Heins & LaFarge designed terra-cotta "B" plaques has been placed back on the wall at the north end of the SB platform. 3. Striping in the middle of the 1904-built walls includes removing the concrete lining and showing the bricks. And there you have it... -William A. Padron ["Exit|East Houston Street & Mulberry Street"] |
|
|
| (1153892) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Apr 30 07:11:15 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Apr 28 12:52:00 2012. This seems very plausible... |
|
|
| (1153913) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 09:58:24 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 28 13:48:45 2012. Thanks for the update William!! |
|
|
| (1153977) | |
Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012 |
|
|
Posted by numbersix on Mon Apr 30 19:10:00 2012, in response to Re: Latest Bleecker St. Station (IRT) Update - 4/23/2012, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 24 14:34:58 2012. Nothing like that new urine smell. |
|
|
