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Posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Apr 28 12:48:58 2012 Video:link...http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=7057884 |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 28 13:30:31 2012, in response to CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Apr 28 12:48:58 2012. Eh, that link went to a weather clip.Try this one http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/7057884-exclusive-i-team-investigates-runaway-septa-train/ |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat Apr 28 14:46:26 2012, in response to CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Apr 28 12:48:58 2012. where was denzel washington to stop this train. (see movie runaway)chud1 |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Apr 28 18:16:11 2012, in response to CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Apr 28 12:48:58 2012. This is at least the third SEPTA Runaway I am aware of. One bunch of Silverliners got loose from Overbrook Yard and an Acela trainset got loose from Frazer yard after bring bumped by a SEPTA train. I believe there have been other more recent runaways, but I can't recall the circumstances. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 18:24:28 2012, in response to CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Apr 28 12:48:58 2012. This can and has happened on NYCT trains as well. In a breakdown, when crews isolate cars improperly, certain contract cars can and have uncoupled and rolled away. Of course, NYCT trains DO have hand brakes. No system is foolproof. Thinking otherwise means you've underestimated the ability of the fool. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sat Apr 28 19:43:18 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Apr 28 18:16:11 2012. Doylestown, October 2005: four car Silverliner IV train was parked for the night without hand brakes applied. Power was shut off for maintenance, main reservoirs bled empty and the train rolled three miles to New Britain. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 19:47:41 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by chuchubob on Sat Apr 28 19:43:18 2012. Lock 'em and chock 'em ... sheesh. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Apr 28 19:47:59 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by chuchubob on Sat Apr 28 19:43:18 2012. Wasn't the derail to the yard set ? |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sat Apr 28 19:55:15 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 28 13:30:31 2012. Is there really no parking brake of any kind? |
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Posted by MGL on Sat Apr 28 20:43:29 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 18:24:28 2012. The new tech trains have no hand brake. They have an automatic parking brake. However, this parking brake can be released. If it were to be improperly released, during a worst case senario situation, those onboard would have no way to attempt, stoping the train.Michael |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Apr 28 20:47:15 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by MGL on Sat Apr 28 20:43:29 2012. parking brakes are usually spring applied, air releasem it would stop a train |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 20:55:10 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by MGL on Sat Apr 28 20:43:29 2012. I was particularly thinking of the car class where if you mechanically retrieve the EP before isolating using the cam switch, you can cause the uncoupling cycle to initiate while the train is running light and isolated. In School Car, do they still talk about the time that happened on 6th Ave in the early AM one Saturday? Experience is the best teacher. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sat Apr 28 20:58:43 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by MGL on Sat Apr 28 20:43:29 2012. I can see a good reason for not having a hand brake. A C train once derailed and hit the tunnel wall with one R-10 car #3333 virtually split in two due to a handbrake which was somehow left applied by a vandal which caused the wheels to expand and jump the rails. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 21:43:36 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by murray1575 on Sat Apr 28 20:58:43 2012. Hey, you can put a C clamp on the tracks and derail a train like they did near Howard Beach several years ago. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 29 19:15:23 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by merrick1 on Sat Apr 28 19:55:15 2012. I can't see why there wouldn't be since, even the NYCT's NTTs have a spring applied, air released parking brake that applies automatically if the air on the cars gets too low. Buses have this type of emergency braking system which in recent years has replaced the manually applied handbrakes as found on older cars. It may just be that the SEPTA employees who were reported to have been on the train may not have been operating employees familiar with the cars and not aware that pulling an emergency cord was all that had to be done. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 29 19:17:06 2012, in response to Re: CBS Philly Investigates Runaway SEPTA Train, posted by chuchubob on Sat Apr 28 19:43:18 2012. That's why newer cars have an automatic spring applied air released parking brake like the one I mentioned in my other post. |
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