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LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by fset on Thu Apr 26 13:36:21 2012

My co-worker has been very adventurous in finding new ways to get to work, and I'd like you guys to review her latest way, and see if you can improve on it.
She gets a ride in the morning to FREEPORT and sometimes she'll use the NICE bus into Jamaica for the [J] train down to Fulton/Bway-Nassau, but other times she'll catch the PEAK LIRR train to Jamaica, then get the [J] down to Fulton Street. We work on Water Street near South Street Seaport.
Going home, she just uses the [J] from Broad Street (to insure a seat) and then NICE bus to get back home to Roosevelt.
Is there any quick way to save on her fare? We realize that NICE bus to the subway is just 2 bus rides + transfer, but sometimes she's running late. Can anyone think of any further combinations, based on $Price + travel time.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Apr 26 13:47:17 2012, in response to LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by fset on Thu Apr 26 13:36:21 2012.

A from Fulton Street to Broadway Junction - - transfer to J towards Jamaica Center.


She can also take the LIRR to Jamaaica but it's $165 for a monthly (between zones 3 and 4) pass - - plus the $2.25 subway fare. Or in the morning - - just pay the $5 one way fare from Freeport to Jamaica for the subway - - so she won't be late.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Apr 26 14:48:30 2012, in response to LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by fset on Thu Apr 26 13:36:21 2012.

Unless she wants to catch an R42 avoid the J. That line is slow as balls. The E is much better.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Apr 26 15:01:49 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Apr 26 14:48:30 2012.

The E is too far from the Water Street/Seaport area. You'd have to transfer to the A or C to be within walking distance. Two buses plus two subways? That's quite the commute, but a faster commute will have to involve the LIRR and cost more.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 17:08:05 2012, in response to LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by fset on Thu Apr 26 13:36:21 2012.

If she's taking the N4 to Jamaica Center, she would save no time by riding the LIRR there, the J/Z is closer to the bus stop than the LIRR which is a 10 minute walk away and is faster than the E to Fulton at 44 minutes.

If she can also use Roosevelt Field as a starting point, the fastest way would be to ride NICE to Mineola, then LIRR to NYP or Atlantic to the 2/3. It would still be cheaper than to ride LIRR from Freeport because it's in zone 4 instead of 7. She can also transfer to the J/Z at Jamaica and save more money while losing 10-15 minutes.

There are a few more options to ride for one MetroCard fare but they take longer.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by N6 Limited on Thu Apr 26 17:43:43 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 17:08:05 2012.

I'm not sure if I'm understanding your post correctly, If she takes the LIRR to Jamaica then she would get on the Subway at Sutphin Blvd, not Jamaica Center.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by N6 Limited on Thu Apr 26 17:50:52 2012, in response to LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by fset on Thu Apr 26 13:36:21 2012.

If she lives in Roosevelt, perhaps she should try the
-N40/N41 to Hempstead
-N6x to Jamaica
F train to West 4th
A/C to Fulton Street.
And Vice Versa.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 18:20:45 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by N6 Limited on Thu Apr 26 17:43:43 2012.

She gets a ride in the morning to FREEPORT and sometimes she'll use the NICE bus into Jamaica for the [J] train

It's kinda hard to guess which bus she's sometimes using from the original post, so I said "If she's taking the N4 to Jamaica Center", since that bus ends there.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 26 18:26:44 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 17:08:05 2012.

Are you sure you're not confusing Roosevelt with Roosevelt Field? Roosevelt is much closer to Freeport than Roosevelt Field.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 18:42:41 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 26 18:26:44 2012.

I was. Thanks. So I guess the OP was talking about the N4?

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by N6 Limited on Thu Apr 26 19:58:12 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 18:20:45 2012.

Oh ok, I think the original poster was saying that their friend would sometimes take the LIRR from Freeport to Jamaica if she was running late, then take the J from Sutphin Blvd. Whenever she takes the N4 from Freeport she would take the J from Jamaica Center.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by N6 Limited on Thu Apr 26 19:58:56 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 18:42:41 2012.

Yes. Perhaps the N6X will work for people like the OP's friend.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 21:36:57 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by N6 Limited on Thu Apr 26 19:58:12 2012.

In which case, how about this?

N4 to Lynbrook, LIRR to Jamaica, free MetroCard transfer to the J/Z. That would be $9 and shave off 15-20 minutes from riding the bus all the way to Jamaica. That may be good she's a little late yet still fit her budget. But wait a minute...

Ah! It's cheaper the other way while still saving 15-20 minutes.

LIRR to Lynbrook, N4 to Jamaica Center, free MetroCard transfer to the J/Z. $5.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Apr 27 20:25:40 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Apr 26 21:36:57 2012.

Both of these are novel, imaginative approcahes. I often think of inserting a railroad ride in between a bus and a subway with a free transfer, but I may have actually done it only once. I'm not sure how many people would have the strength of will to leave a seat on the LIRR for a bus just to save money though. I used to skip the LIRR altogether and use a bus/subway combination, but I eventually lost my patience with that approach, and I don't have to go into Manhattan all that often that it really matters. The worst part is waiting for the bus home in Jamaica, which often borders on inhumane.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Apr 27 23:01:05 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Apr 27 20:25:40 2012.

I'm kinda too old to tolerate a 1h+ NICE bus ride but if I were younger, I would have woken up early to ride the N4 from Freeport to Jamaica to save money or tried the $5 route.

I actually got off MNR trains at Marble Hill, Fordham and Wakefield to save money when I started working as a freelance in my thirties.

The sad thing is I may have to work that way again these days.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 27 23:30:41 2012, in response to LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by fset on Thu Apr 26 13:36:21 2012.

I thought you were calling for the LIRR to run on the Broadway Line as it did once in the past.

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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Apr 28 16:39:10 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Apr 27 23:01:05 2012.

"I actually got off MNR trains at Marble Hill, Fordham and Wakefield to save money when I started working as a freelance in my thirties."

I will get the E in Jamaica to save a couple of bucks if I am going to the Upper East Side instead of going all the way to Penn Station New York, since that doesn't usually cost me much time in the end, maybe five or ten minutes tops.



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Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan

Posted by Joe V on Sat Apr 28 20:15:43 2012, in response to Re: LIRR + J TRAIN to work in Lower Manhattan, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Apr 28 16:39:10 2012.

E traingNYPS - Jamaica takes 36 minutes. LIRR takes 20-23.
If goinf between NJT & LIRR, and wait is more than 20-25 minutes, taking the E train can save 50 cents each way plus MC 7% discount.



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