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Re: The UP side to new rail construction

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 15 20:39:05 2012, in response to Re: The UP side to new rail construction, posted by Rockparkman on Sun Apr 15 20:20:28 2012.

lol.

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Re: The UP side to new rail construction

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Apr 15 20:41:49 2012, in response to Re: The UP side to new rail construction, posted by Rockparkman on Sun Apr 15 20:20:28 2012.

It was spraypainted on the sidewalk in seattle:

"Work is Slavery"

It's all about finding the way to free yourself. Workers Paradise = slavery.

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Re: The UP side to new rail construction

Posted by Rockparkman on Sun Apr 15 20:54:21 2012, in response to Re: The UP side to new rail construction, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 15 20:39:05 2012.

I hope there is suffering in your life.

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 15 20:57:14 2012, in response to The down side to new rail construction, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 15 11:52:56 2012.

I don't blame the guy as I'd be crying the blues too.

But...hang in there and that light rail will bring the customers to you.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 15 21:10:51 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 15 20:57:14 2012.

Or be like the Jamaica businesses wanting to get rid of the vital transportation link that brought foot traffic to them....

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by znufrii on Mon Apr 16 00:17:31 2012, in response to The down side to new rail construction, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 15 11:52:56 2012.

you must not like omelets.

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 16 02:26:15 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by znufrii on Mon Apr 16 00:17:31 2012.

What omelets? When government breaks eggs, they break them on your windows.

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 02:29:01 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 16 02:26:15 2012.

Psssst ... that's not the government doing that. :)

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 16 07:10:48 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 15 21:10:51 2012.

The Jamaica business district seems to be doing fine.

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 16 07:16:42 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 16 07:10:48 2012.

???????????????????????????????? The el was just torn down? What I said has to do with the El being torn down in 1977, not present time. It was a complete disaster to Jamaica business in 1977, something that they took 25 years to recover from.

What transit line was abandoned recently in Jamaica, what are you talking about?

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 16 07:42:10 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 16 07:16:42 2012.

So there was no long term harm.



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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 16 07:49:18 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 16 07:42:10 2012.

LOL, you have no idea what happened there in the 80's do you?

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 16 07:57:19 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 16 07:49:18 2012.

I've lived and worked in Jamaica for the past six years. I have a pretty good idea of what is going on now.

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 16 08:11:22 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 16 07:57:19 2012.

No one is talking about now. We are talking about what happened after the El was removed in 1977. It was a horror for the business district of Jamaica, and talking away there vital foot traffic is something that they struggled with for almost 25 years to correct. I am happy for you over the last 6 years, and Jamaica is a different place for the last decade or so. But that's not what was being discussed.

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 16 09:43:11 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 16 08:11:22 2012.

I think that crack and gangs and loss of housing units in the surrounding residential neighborhoods had as much to do with Jamaica Avenue's decline as tearing down the el.

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 16 10:26:09 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 15 20:57:14 2012.

But...hang in there and that light rail will bring the customers to you.

Until they too are driven away by the bland food and critical health code violations noted in the comments section.

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 16 10:53:20 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 16 09:43:11 2012.

Of course. It all contributed. However, business was also down because it's vital link was destroyed.
Jamaica Ave was in trouble by the late 70's even before the loss of the el, but it didn't need to be plunged into total decline as the loss of the el caused, and surely didn't help.

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 16 13:18:10 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 15 15:35:07 2012.

Give it a rest.

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Re: The down side to new rail construction

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 11:21:12 2012, in response to Re: The down side to new rail construction, posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 20:16:37 2012.

Of course, if Minneapolis-St. Paul had not gotten rid of their streetcars in the 1950's, they would be putting them back in 2012.

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Re: The UP side to new rail construction

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Apr 22 15:21:07 2012, in response to Re: The UP side to new rail construction, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 15 20:07:56 2012.

My only issue with this guy is is outright disdain and hostility with folks that disagree with his vapid point of view...
his utter rancor leave a bad taste in any civil debaters mouth...perhaps more than most,his "quarterly earnings" may have tanked.

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Re: The UP side to new rail construction

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Apr 22 15:22:54 2012, in response to Re: The UP side to new rail construction, posted by Rockparkman on Sun Apr 15 20:54:21 2012.

the evil you plan for someone will do more harm to you First..

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